Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?

Donald Trump is always in the news. He’s an unusual figure in American Politics because he comes conducts himself in a way that many in politics are not used to.

Trump is also polarizing figure. People either love him or hate him. Trump is so polarizing that I’ve received many comments and questions from people who wonder whether he is the Antichrist.

In this article, I will address whether Donald Trump is the Antichrist.

Observations About Trump & the Antichrist

First, I want to make it clear that I will try my best to analyze Trump as neutrally as I can. I may have some positive or some negative things to say about Trump. Please understand that I do this as an analyst rather than someone who is a Trump opponent or is a Trump supporter.

I will proceed by stating some observations about Trump and compare these observations with many people’s expectation of the Antichrist.

Pride & Ego

Trump is a very prideful man, to say the least. He likes to boast about himself and rarely admits when he’s made a mistake publicly.

Meanwhile, Daniel 11:36 and Daniel 8:25 suggest that the Antichrist will have an immense ego:

“And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.” (Daniel 11:36)

“And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.” (Daniel 8:25)

Mideast Peace Negotiator

Trump often boasts about the foreign policy deals he’s made. He’s said on occasion that he wants to try to broker the hardest deal of them all: a Mideast peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

He wants to make a “Deal of the Century” in the Mideast and has tried help Israel normalize relations with its neighbors from the Abraham Covenant.

Meanwhile, many expect Antichrist to help confirm a Mideast peace deal-the “covenant with many” in Daniel 9:27:

“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” (Daniel 9:27)

Charismatic Leader

Trump is a skilled speaker. He is adept at speaking publicly with or without relying on a teleprompter.

Some skeptics question the substance and validity of what Trump says. But, Trump is able to endear himself to a large number of Americans with what he says and the style that he says it.

Meanwhile, many people expect Antichrist to be a demagogue who uses his charisma to attract people to his side as he accumulates power.

Do I Think Trump the Antichrist?

Based on these statements, you might conclude that I think Donald Trump is the Antichrist. However, I strongly believe that Donald Trump is not the Antichrist. Here are several reasons why:

Super Popular vs Super Unpopular

Revelation 6:1-2 depicts Antichrist as a rider on a white horse. This imagery suggests that Antichrist may become so popular that the world will view him as a messianic figure:

“(1) And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. (2) And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.” (Revelation 6:1-2)

Trump is the farthest thing from being viewed as a messianic figure by the world.

  • Many people dislike Trump and will go to great lengths to protest against him and to resist him.
  • Some of Trump’s opponents do not view him as the world’s savior but as one of the world’s biggest threats.

Trump will never command the admiration of the world like the Antichrist will.

The Desire of Women

Daniel 11 indicates that the Antichrist will not be someone who will desire women in his life:

“Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” (Daniel 11:37)

Trump has been married multiple times and is currently married to his wife Melania (with whom they have a son named Barron).

The Peak of Arrogance

The Antichrist will sit in a temple in Jerusalem someday and demand that the world worship him like God.

“(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

Trump is a very prideful man. But, does anyone seriously think that he is so arrogant that he would demand the world to worship him? It takes a different level of megalomania to demand people to worship you. It takes the megalomania of a Stalin or a Hitler. Both of these leaders eliminated or sought to eliminate religion in their countries and replace it with a cult of personality centered on worship of them.

A Different Level of Charisma

Trump is a skilled speaker, but he is not close to being as charismatic as the Antichrist will be. As I’ve stated previously, Antichrist will be even more charismatic than Adolf Hitler, a man who hypnotized an entire nation with his demonic charisma.

I’ve watched footage of Hitler speak and I’ve watched Trump speak many times. The comparison is not even close. Trump does not have the charisma that Hitler had and the charisma that Antichrist will have.

The Ultimate Globalist

Antichrist will seek to dominate the world in the fields of economics, politics, and religion. In this sense, the Antichrist will be the ultimate globalist.

Trump, on the other hand, opposes globalism. In fact, Trump said in a key foreign policy speech::

“No country has ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours and we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same.

We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism.

The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down, and will never enter-and under my administration-we will never enter America into any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs.”[1]

Trump believes in a self-described “American First” foreign policy. As a result, he’s unlikely to support the efforts to create a one-world government at the expense of the U.S.’s sovereignty.

In contrast, Antichrist is someone who would embrace the efforts to unite the world in fields like politics and economics.

The Ability to Defeat His Strongest Opponents

Daniel 11 indicates that the Antichrist will attack the strongest opponents and win:

“(38) But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. (39) Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.” (Daniel 11:38-39)

Although the context of Daniel 11:38-39 is the Antichrist’s ability to defeat his foes militarily, the passage indicates that the Antichrist will defeat the strongest of opponents.

In contrast, Trump is not an unstoppable force at the time of this writing. Trump failed to get the 2020 election results overturned. Some of the biggest resistance Trump faced in his efforts to challenge the 2020 election results were from people from the Republican Party and people who he appointed to judicial positions.

Trump Recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital

Trump startled many across the world when he moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and recognized the city as Israel’s capital. Please realize that the move is not the confirmation of the “covenant with many” of Daniel 9:27. It’s not the event that will trigger the tribulation.

Trump’s move is really the farthest thing from the confirmation of the covenant with many. Many criticized the move as unnecessary, unilateral, and even harmful to the peace process. The covenant with many will have many sides agree to a deal. Trump’s move lacked the support of many of the countries involved in the future covenant with many.

Like the King of Israel and the Second Coming

Trump accepted and tweeted the praise of a conservative pundit who compared Israel’s level of love for him to the king of the Israel and the second coming of God. The statements Trump accepted and tweeted will do nothing to dispel the speculation that he’s the Antichrist as they are not statements that most leaders would be comfortable accepting (I would strongly reject such praise).

It’s no surprise that #Antichrist was a top Twitter trend when Trump tweeted these statements and that the reaction to his actions were negative. I view the negative backlash against Trump as evidence that he’s not the Antichrist. Revelation 13:3-4 and Revelation 17:8 describes a vastly different global reaction to the coming Antichrist:

“And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?” (Revelation 13:3-4)

“The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.” (Revelation 17:8)

The Abraham Accord

Trump is taking credit for the Abraham Accord, a peace deal between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and a deal that may serve as a template for future peace deals. Many have hailed the Abraham Accord as a significant step towards Mideast peace.

However, the Abraham Accord was denounced by the Palestinians, Turkey, and Iran. As a result, I still think that brokering an all-encompassing Mideast peace deal that includes Palestinian support will be a huge challenge for Trump.

A One-Term President

With Trump serving as a one-term president, I imagine the speculation on Trump being the Antichrist will center on Revelation 17, which describes eight kings:

“(8) The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. (9) And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. (10) And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (11) And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” (Revelation 17:8-11)

Revelation 17 describes the seventh king as only reigning for a short time (a short space). This king later returns to serve as the eighth king, the Antichrist. Some may speculate that Trump’s failure to get a second term after the 2020 Election helps him fit the description of the seventh king of Revelation 17.

The problem with this theory is that the eighth king, the Antichrist, is described in the Book of Revelation as someone who will come back from the dead. I have an article entitled “Satan’s Biggest End Time Deception” where I describe how Revelation describes the false resurrection of the Antichrist from the dead. Trump does not fit the nature of the seventh king of Revelation 17.

Conclusion

In sum, I strongly disagree with the idea that Donald Trump is the Antichrist of the end times. Whether or not you like Trump, please understand that Antichrist is on a completely different level.

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  1. Read: Donald Trump’s ‘America First’ Foreign Policy Speech. Time, 27 Apr. 2016, https://time.com/4309786/read-donald-trumps-america-first-foreign-policy-speech/.
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Wayne Croley
Wayne Croley

Hi! I’ve studied and written about Bible prophecy since I was a teenager. My goal is to make Bible prophecy easy for you to understand while avoiding the sensationalism seen elsewhere. I am the author of several end time books, including Prophecy Proof Insights on the End Times, a comprehensive book about the end times. I hold an M.B.A. and degrees in Managerial Economics and Political Science.

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  1. It is obvious to me that the author, Wayne Croley, is a republican. If he would deny it, then he has even more explaining to do, because he is exalting and giving the nod to today’s republican party for all they believe and spread. This saddens me greatly, since they in no way resemble the Christianity I was taught!

  2. Hey brother Wayne,

    I thought I would stop by and pay a visit. It’s been, what, four years? So much has happened regarding the Antichrist Donald Trump. So many are trying to lock that beast up. And guess who is not only still standing but the front-runner for 2024? Donald John Trump. What other president, who has been out of office for nearly three years, commanded the media’s attention as Trump does? Did you see his Easter Day post where he simply said WWIII? Or perhaps his digital trading card featuring himself in unmistakable Antichrist symbolism. That was a nice touch. His Waco Rally was not to be missed either, featuring an oath to the Jan. 6 Insurrection. And then, there’s his post – “I AM YOUR RETRIBUTION.” And, lest we forget, his recent deposition, where he admitted that stars like him have been able to assault women for some million years.

    You or me, buddy — one of us has spread a whole lot of falsehood.

    Jonathan Dane (author of the book RISE OF THE LITTLE HORN)

  3. I stumbled upon your website today (12-24-2023). I am trying my best to be a good christian. I am appalled by the writings, comments and preaching on this site. You are all being judgemental (not a spelling error) ! This will condemn you to hell remember? Beware of False Prophets and ones who will make you follow the ways of sin. Now I will sit back and watch you rationalize all your sins by pushing them onto anyone who disagrees with your evil…..

    • Ummm… I’m writing about how someone is NOT the Antichrist. I am not making false accusations like so many people make these days. I think your indignation is misplaced.

    • Wayne Corley is the the ANTI-CHRIST? or just a satin helper?
      How does that feel knowing the average person who stops by this page will read a comment like this? You are damned for your ways of satin. Just read and follow the Ten Commandments ….people don’t need help like this. Your spreading the devils menu.

  4. Just a question: Why does everyone assume the antichrist is American??? The US is not even mentioned in the last days prophecies, so that means that we will no longer be a super-power nation with any influence over world events.

    • Many assume Antichrist may be American because America is a superpower at this time. People often try to fit Bible prophecy passages into current events and live under the assumption that the fulfillment of these passages is imminent. Many think that the Antichrist must be American for end time events to take place now.

      I don’t believe in this approach nor do I believe the Antichrist will be an American.

    • There is only one race that is truly “American”, the Native Americans. Frump is of Eastern European descent which is prophesied.

  5. Yeah I agree for now. Let me also say I am a Trump supporter. That’s being said I am very concerned about the Q anon thing. They believe in 2017 Trump went all over the world meeting with world leaders which he did do. And during each meeting he used NSA evidence of the global pedophile ring as black mail against these leaders. They believe he had every world leader and world bank submit to him. They believe in 6 months trials will begin and many of Trump opponents who are involved with this ring will be executed or imprisoned. After that they believe Trump will institute a one world government called Gessra which every country will maintain autonomy with each country having a Nessra. This will bring world peace and Trump is showing to be quite successful in bringing peace to the middle and Israel as we speak. So as a supporter of Trump and a Christian I did not like hearing this theory and I hope it’s all bull. But if it comes true it would be hard to not view Trump as the antichrist.

    • In looking at what makes an anti-Christ, the Bible has many answers. John 10:10 “The thief (Satan) comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life and have it to the full.” With over a hundred thousand dead and riots in the streets, Satan is alive and
      flourishing in the United States and he lives in the White House.
      In Daniel 7:8 While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts. Trump boasts and his hair looks, like two horns of piss colored gold.
      One of the best and most telling is Matthew 24:24 “For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, to mislead, if possible, even the elect.” In the letter, signed by 177 evangelicals leaders including Liberty University’s Jerry Falwell Jr., First Baptist Dallas’ Pastor Robert Jeffress and Samaritans Purse’ Cissie Graham Lynch, the collective expressed their “dissatisfaction” with the op-ed, accused CT’s editor-in-chief, Mark Galli, of dismissing their “point of view,” and said he inaccurately characterized them as “far right evangelicals.”
      Trump told crowds he is chosen, while looking at the sky. It was a wonder and a miracle he was elected and was not impeached. He has the full but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness but is guilty of an eternal sin”. When Trump called himself chosen and that only he, instead of God was America’s salvation, he blasphemed the Holy Spirit and committed an unforgiveable sin.
      2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.” In a letter, signed by 177 evangelicals’ leaders, including Liberty University’s Jerry Falwell Jr., First Baptist Dallas’ Pastor Robert Jeffress and Samaritans Purse’ Cissie Graham Lynch. 1 Timothy 4:1 “Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons.” Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own.

    • And like the prophecy states the 7th king will reign for a short time and come back from the dead. Trump is coming back once the audits take place. Will he be assassinated before he returns? Trump is noted by the Q people as “Q+”, (Q being the 17th letter of the alphabet), when he returns will he be 18 or 3×6=18. 666. I don’t know if he is or isn’t, I just think it’s strange. The number of a man.

  6. Stunning how biblically ignorant these prophecy “teachers” really are. Trump is indeed the Antichrist, his behavior shows more and more every single day that he is the man of sin. He’s just survived the “deadly head wound” and is now turning against the Christian world. He’s about to announce his next executive order making it illegal to criticize him, and he’s going to go after his so-called “enemies” (Christians and pagans), that’s already in the works. Next comes food confiscation (SNAP benefits were just greatly reduced) and attacks against Israel. Either these teachers are not paying attention, don’t read the news or don’t read their bibles.

    • Yes Trump indeed is the closet to the description of the Antichrist. I do my homework as well. The “Deal of the Century” will be ratified. We will see them ran it down the Palestine‘s throats. You will see that Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon, Turkey, & other Middle Eastern countries sign on. Palestine’s leaders will have no choice in the matter. Israel will control them to a tee. There is a 3rd Temple already being built underground on the mount. It is underground, just look it up. Trump has people following him & hypnotized as a cult. He has stated those against him should be tried for treason & killed. He places kids in cages, cuts food for the poor, & takes healthcare away from the poor. His executive orders says it all! He’s a racist, bigot, & evil man. He once stated he wouldn’t mind being the Antichrist & also said he is the “chosen one.” The Bible states the Antichrist is the “Little Horn,” who speaks with a mouth, where does the name Trump come from, Trumpet!!! Take heed that we are close to the coming of our Lord.

      • Obama put kids in cages and droned 22,000 women and children to death. Obama fit the Antichrist bill even more so than the Donald. You’ve been duped.

        • Indeed, if the Biblical descriptions od the Antichrist matches Trump. Followed by denial that he is the Antichrist. Then what would qualify? Certainly not Obama. Obama was not a womaniser nor was he arrogant. Sorry but all the traits of the antichrist described in the bible belong to Trump
          These trumpologists need to reexamine their definitions.

          • In my opinion, Christfollower, you’re not wrong to be thinking. That article has a lot of silliness in it, but it’s nice to see so many pertinent scriptures in one place. I wish he would’ve made it a less partisan sounding, however.

            I do think it’s unlikely that American evangelicals will be able to spot the Antichrist, simply because they are for the most part so steeped in poisonous political ideologies in addition to their Christianity.

            I do also think that Trump shares a remarkable resemblance to most everything I can find in scripture that describes the Antichrist and can actually be confirmed at this point in time.

            Just my opinion(s).

          • Something I find interesting, Christfollower, and this is purely my own little musing, I’m not saying it should be believed or even that it’s right, but I tend to think of today’s Republicans as corresponding to the Bible’s Pharisees and today’s Democrats as corresponding to the Bible’s Sadducees. With this in mind, note what Jesus says to the Pharisees in John 5:43:

            “I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.”

        • 6 months ago I would have agreed with you. I support Trump and have always thought Obama was the antichrist until I learned about Q anon and all the stuff they believe. If it comes true there will be no doubt in my mind that Trump is the real antichrist. There are many antichrists and John says. If this Q anon stuff comes true Obama was an antichrist that paved the way for the true anti christ. Which is what Obama did do for Trump. On the other hand the left wants to institute a one world government as well so who becomes the antichrist might just depend on who wins the election.

          • The Left doesn’t want a one world government. That is what Trump and Putin are planning. That is the secret between them. They are brothers in Satan. As far as Obama being the anti-Christ does not bear out to what the Bible says, where Trump is a perfect match, as was Hitler, Nero, Stalin. Each generation is tested by God to see if they are worthy. The end of times, could just mean the end of this generation. How anyone can believe anything an anonymous teller of conspiracy and does not have the balls to say who they are, are cowards belonging to the Trump cult, doing his evil bidding. Trying to confused the weak minded.

          • Q-Anon is a cult. I’m shocked by how many people are following this junk. Stick only to scripture and you will never be let down.

        • This was in response to an emergency situation, not a permanent solution. The photograph you’re referring to was a facility in Arizona — I recognize the photograph because Gov. Brewer was with me — and it was during the spike … and we had a lot of unaccompanied kids, we had a lot of family units. And under the law, once they’re apprehended by the border patrol, within 72 hours, we have to transfer unaccompanied children to (the Department of Health and Human Services). And HHS then puts them in a shelter, and they find placement for them somewhere in the United States.” Johnson explained.

      • Unfortunately you sound very biased, and you apparently hate Trump. So it is hard to take your comment seriously. You obviously are also driven by the mainstream media.

        • I am driven by the Bible and facts. Daniel 9:9 “Out of one of them came another horn, which started small but grew in power (A trump is a small horn.) to the south and to the east (His support is in the south and middle America.) and toward the Beautiful Land (America is the most beautiful land.) 10 It grew until it reached the host of the heavens, ( Trump looked to the Heavens and proclaimed “he was the chosen.) and it threw some of the starry host down to the earth and trampled on them. 11) It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the LORD; harm and holding him up to contempt. (Trump claims to be a great military leader. The fallen church worship him, as anointed by God, but Trump has and will continue to do harm to the church and has destroyed their reputation.
          Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, to mislead, if possible, even the elect. The “elect” of the church have truly been deceived by the Devil Trump, has mislead 1/3 of America. It was an amazing miracle he won, against all odds, polls, and political thought, so he easily fulfills that requirement. He shows great signs of wealth, even though no one is sure where he collected all the money. Mostly taking other family members money away for a start, not paying or under paying people who work for him. Going Bankrupt a few times and knowing the right people on both the Democratic and Republican side, the real deal makers, perverts, and corrupt friends in high places, made sure he would make it to the White House. Many Democrats, like the Clinton’s were early Trump enablers and “friends”. This is my favorite and often used scripture for this time. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 says “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,”. Apostacy means the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief. In other words, the church falls away first, which they did, when the man of lawlessness Trump is revealed. He is the son of destruction (Satan) and who better resembles Satan, physically morally and spiritually, than Donald J. Trump.

      • It is interesting the great falling away of the church, because God allowed the delusion of Trump to mark their hearts, minds and souls. One wouldn’t believe learned men of “God” could be fooled, but the Bible says even the “elect” will be deceived and fall away from Christ and Falwell is a perfect example of the Falwelling away of the church!

    • You are totally correct with regard to biblical ignorance. Trump is not the antichrist, however our world leaders will turn their power over to the antichrist and the pope whom is the false prophet will help usher in the antichrist. He won’t attack the true Israel because a lot of them are still blind as of today. Read Rev 2:9 and then read Rev 3:9 Those that are in the land of Israel currently will soon depart. Learn who the true Israel is; they have black skin whom are called Negro, Hebrew, Children of Israel and the Tribe of Judah just to name a few. Study the word of God

      • If you truly know the word, you will recognize Trump is the man of lawlessness, the anti-Christ. Please quote scripture to support your theory of who is true Israel. Daniel 7:7-8: After this I kept looking in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrifying and extremely strong; and it had large iron teeth. It devoured and crushed and trampled down the remainder with its feet; and it was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. While I was contemplating the horns, behold, another horn, a little one, came up among them, and three of the first horns were pulled out by the roots before it; and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts. Trump tells us he is the strongest. His obsession with power and greatness is frightening. He boasts about himself and accomplishments, even when there is none.
        This is my favorite and often used scripture for this time. 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 says “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,”. Apostacy means the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief. In other words, the church falls away first, which they did, when the man of lawlessness Trump is revealed. He is the son of destruction (Satan) and who better resembles Satan, physically morally and spiritually, than Donald J. Trump.

  7. I personally discern pure wickedness all over Melania actually. Call me crazy but I think melania could possibly be satan(the dragon) giving his/her direct orders to trump under the surface and cover of ‘first lady’. Which Also lines up with the story of Ahab and Jezebel where Ahab allows Jezzie to take over the decisions Of the country (Which I honestly believe is what is going on right now). Which also parallels Ahab as Israel’s 7th King (7Heads) one of which was wounded to death as both Ahab and Jez were assassinated.

    As for trump not being a globalist…Of course trumps not gonna Come out and say he’s a globalist initially. The beast is very cunning and won’t overplay his hand. He waits for the right time and the right situation to make his move (especially in regards to globalism).

    I honestly expect trump to emerge as the savior after some type of catastrophic event…that will directly or indirectly have major Economic consequences. This is when he will introduce his global plan to recover the worlds economy under his rule and provision. Ultimately controlling all sectors of every world government and the global food supply. Eventually forcing everyone to receive a mark to purchase, barter or sell anything; especially food… which will also ‘force’ worship of the beast because all other religious systems will be overhauled in the process.

    Still sound crazy to you? Who else can pull off such a feat, I ask?

    • No one. The false prophets are the fallen and deluded leaders, like Falwell. The Whore of Babylon is the fallen church, even so Melania is evil. We seen it at her Satanic themed Christmas events. I have always thought Melania was sent here to give Trump the arm candy, he desired, but she came here as a secret agent of Putin and to charm and manipulate Trump, who she obviously finds repulsive.

    • Don’t know about the Melania part but the rest sounds within the realm of possibility to me. I’m not an expert in world history by any means but my impression is that most if not all tyrannical leaders began as nationalists.

      • I didn’t phrase that very well. What I meant to say was that most if not all tyrannical leaders with ambitions of world domination started out nationalists. Hitler, for example, started out as a nationalist, from what I understand.

  8. I would encourage all those who believe that Trump is the antichrist, to please read the article below. And before doing so, go to the profile of the author and you will see that he is eminently qualified to speak to this subject. I know the man personally, having supported his international ministry ever since he began it when he left his government job to follow God’s call on his life. It is time to quit listening to the socialist controlled media and look at the facts. This author does his research fully before writing on anything. His books are full of information. Anything is possible, but the evidence does not point to what so many Christians are beginning to espouse, that Trump is the antichrist. Much would have to change for that to happen.
    http://www.garykah.org/2019/10/23/is-trump-the-antichrist/

    • Gary is indeed a false prophet, most of his claims (if not all of them) did not prove to be true as he alleges. He writes books for profit (a sin) and thinks he’s a prophet (actually another sin, God’s true prophets do not concern themselves with such things). Gary seeks to create a following and a audience, another sign that he’s not authentic (no true prophet does these things either, concerning themselves only with fulfilling God’s will). Suggest you go back and reread your bible for what is true and what is not.

      • I know Gary personally, and he is one of the most godly men I know. He does not profit from his books, trust me, for I know how his family lives, and it is most frugally. He gave up a government position that was leading to power, money, and prestige to carry his message to the public and live from hand to mouth. His one book is somewhat dated at this point, yes, but he keeps up with what is going on and has an informative newsletter that keeps things updated. You are in great error and seem to not understand what is going on.

      • Also, Gary does not consider himself a prophet. He is a humble man who is just trying to warn people of the things he has and is discovering about what is going on within the government, church, etc. that we should be aware of. As you do not know the man, you should not judge.

  9. People are holding on to a century old satanic false teaching about the Book of Daniel.

    Who confirms a covenant with Israel.

    First off it never says anything about any peace treaty. That is a contortion of Scripture.

    And who do we know that had a covenant with Israel? The passage states “confirms THE covenant” so the context shows that this is a covenant that we should be aware of and we should since it is the covenant of God with Israel.

    And who causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease?

    Who was the final sacrifice to end all sacrifices?

    Christ.

    Christ who is God confirmed his covenant with Israel and in the midst of the week caused the sacrifice and oblation to end because the Temple had been made abominable by a generation of vipers.

    • 2 Tim 2:15- study to shew thyself approved unto God. A workman that needeth not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth.

  10. “He will have no regard for the desire of women”

    i think you are completely misunderstanding what this means. it does not mean he will not desire women, it means he will have no regard for the desire of women, which seems to translate and fit pretty well into how he treats women.

    he brags about grabbing them by their private parts, talks down to them, sexualizes them, cheats on them (cheated on his previous wife even while she was pregnant), and cheated on his current wife with a prostitute.

    women desire to be treated like ladies, like women. he does the exact opposite. He has NO REGARD for the desire of women.

    prove me wrong

    not to mention he just literally tweeted and bragged (more pride and arrogance) about someone saying he is the King of Israel and the second coming of God.

    hello, open your eyes.

    • Have you heard what he has said and allowed to be said about him in the past 48 hours (August 21, 2019)? He did not refute or discourage but retweeted appreciation and thanks for being “The greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world.” “The Jewish people love him like he’s the King of Israel… they love him like he is the second coming of God.” He believes he is “The Chosen One.” You know who else was a “chosen one?” Pharaoh and King Saul were “chosen” too.

          • Very poor choice of words by Trump-made 1000x worse by tweets he should have never sent out. He’s left himself wide open for attack by his opponents now and for many months to come with regards to his mental stability (I’m not saying he’s stable or unstable. I’m just anticipating the line of attack that we’ll see). I won’t be surprised if the tweets and his “chosen one” statement are brought up in the debates next year.

        • Great article. Much to pray about. You would think all the scholarly responses would be more open than condemning as if they know it all. Lol. Don’t let it bother you. God knows! And Jan 6, 2021 is coming!

      • I’m still in the middle on whether or not Trump is Antichrist. I neither believe nor disbelieve that he is.

        I will say, however, that it is virtually impossible for me to imagine a coming leader with a more boastful mouth than Trump (if Trump is not Antichrist). That’s not to say there won’t be one – I’m just saying it’s incredibly difficult for me to imagine how someone could top him.

        He does also have a rather stern looking face, in my opinion, but it is the boastful mouth that I personally find most compelling.

    • First person I’ve heard say that he could be and that the woman thing is not a barrier.

      America loves (and so do I in the flesh) Trump. It’s more of our lusts and gain we want. Of course you follow his apostasy if your not listening to Paul’s word and repenting and dealing with sexual sin in the church.

    • i dont believe the anti christ is Trump …desires no women could be a Gay man….Trump has done some awesomely hard work for his country whilst being President even for one term ..boastful hes allowed to be ..hes an action man and did that quietly too might i add..it wasnt him who put the list up …man so proud of President Trump..people were saying how they could sleep peacefully under his presidency..lots of unemployeds got jobs,etc etc..he wasnt a perfect man but perfect for the job…his past had nothing to do with his present as he matured and has banished that from his life…and met his wife now Melania n son Barron…there was a reason he didnt get back in but not what he thought its even bigger…??

  11. “He will have no regard for the desire of women”

    i think you are completely misunderstanding what this means. it does not mean he will not desire women, it means he will have no regard for the desire of women, which seems to translate and fit pretty well into how he treats women.

    he brags about grabbing them by their private parts, talks down to them, sexualizes them, cheats on them (cheated on his previous wife even while she was pregnant), and cheated on his current wife with a prostitute.

    women desire to be treated like ladies, like women. he does the exact opposite.

    prove me wrong

    • I don’t condone his treatment of women. But, I read Daniel 11:37 as an indication that Antichrist will not desire women. Hitler would have fit that description. Hitler remained unmarried just until the time of his death. Hitler’s mistress, Eva Braun, was neglected by Hitler to the point that she tried to commit suicide multiple times.

      • The antichrist becomes antichrist when Apollyon who is demonic spirit is released from his prison and at once is allowed by God to indwell a man. At that time the character of the man and who he was know previously to have been will be totally changed. He will not be the man he was. And he will have supernatural power.

        So we look to a man who undergoes a miraculous change most likely involving resurrection from death. But when he comes back he is not himself. And the world shall wonder.

      • Different translations the Antichrist will desire women. Which indeed describes Trump. And then of course there are the lies. Sorry. but everything about Trump perfectly fits the description of the biblical Antichrist,

  12. Must too early to say if he is or isn’t. Personally, I believe the test of time will prove one way or another. That time being 3 1/2 years. Let’s see what transpires in the life of President Trump mid-year, 2020. Will he negotiate a deal for world peace? Will the world be amazed at something he does? Will all his detractors suddenly look upon him as a messianic figure? Just remember, even the elect will be deceived by the beast.

      • I hope not! What a reply. No thank you, I don’t want to go to hell – ‘time will tell’. Trump has to be the antichrist. The mosty obvious reason is the 666 false prophet right beside him in the man Jared Kushner. Trump won’t have an affinity to women as he already doesn’t. They don’t control him and when the devil overtakes him at the 3.5 yr midde of Trib Melania will prob already be gone. No christians want to be repenting of their sin openly and get oil. Those who aren’t repenting openly in thier church weekly will not be taken in the rapture. Its all apostate except those who are being persecuted for repentance and honesty.

      • You may be misinterpreting Daniel 11: 36-37 as the statement, “Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all” could mean that he simply won’t care whether women desire him or not as their opinion won’t matter. That said, when he talks about “grabbing” women by the genitals it suggests that he doesn’t care what they think–as long as he gets what he wants. Same thing with entering a dressing room with teenage girls in various states of undress. He doesn’t care what they think. Or when he calls women names or makes fun of their looks. He doesn’t care. Now, do I think he is the actual Anti-Christ? No. For starters, as you rightly point out, he doesn’t have the necessary charisma. Neither, in my view, does he have the intelligence. But is he “an anti-Christ”. Yes. And the fact that he has managed to fool the self-professed “elite” [i.e. real Christians] is an indicator that maybe there is something wrong within the Evangelical community. Either they are not Christians now or perhaps they never were. And just because a person is pro-life doesn’t make them a Christian. Never has and never will. If anything, all it makes them is anti-abortion. To further illustrate my point, in order to be a Christian one has to believe, repent and be baptized. That’s it. But Trump himself has stated that he has no reason to ask God for forgiveness because he doesn’t believe he has done anything wrong. That said, why any real Christian would applaud this man is a mystery to me.

        • You do realise real repentant Christians have very little choice of wholesome godly presidential candidates to choose from. Name me one god fearing Christian man that has run for president. It’s naive to think a Christian isn’t a Christian because of the choice of a president. Most true Christians have to choose based on pragmatism. Policies and issues that are dearest to their values are what they vote on. I’ve never voted for a president based on his personal morals. If that were the case no one would be nominated, ever. Please use your reasoning when Making statements about others.

  13. Can anyone argue that Donald Trump ISN’T the physical embodiment of all 7 deadly sins. (Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Wrath, Envy, Pride, Sloth.) Donald Trump exceeds in all of these areas. The only sin that isn’t obvious is Envy, but Trump has already stated that he is envious of the power that dictators such as Putin have. Trumps followers have elevated him to the status of saviour in their minds. As of this date he has told more than 10,000 lies since taking office and even his own legal team admits that he is incapable of telling the truth. Can anyone argue that he isn’t the undisputed Lord of Lies. He may not have done all of the things prophesised in the Bible, yet, but he still has at least another year and a half in office. If he isn’t the Antichrist, he’s a very believable lookalike.

      • Read the comment in my email and thought, “Sounds like Connie.” Welcome to the short list.

        • My comment was not made on your facebook page, nor should it have become the topic of conversation. Please remove it, for you do not have my permission to put it there.

          • Heyyyy Connie,

            I thought I would just stop and pay my respects. Wow, it’s been like 3 1/2 years. (If we had been in the Trib, Trump would be “ascending” the escalator to the temple precipice right about now.) I figured you’ve been busy doing a ton of research on that book list you so adamantly claimed existed. (You are thorough. My goodness.) Hey, when you get a second, could you give us your findings?

            I hope you’re well.

            your pal,

            Jonathan Dane,

            (writer of the most unoriginal book on the planet, Rise of the Little Horn)

      • No, I can’t think of a single one except Donald. Not even close. And though he may not be worshiped by a majority of Americans, he has developed a huge cult of personality far more devoted to him thqan the GOP on the right. He is very fat and old, yet they portray him as a young bodybuilder, sometimes with a halo. I have never seen this done with any president before. Or other politician. A cult called QAnon has formed around him that considers him to be leading a cosmic war of Good Against Evil, and many expect him to save the white race against inferior ones (Build the Wall!) and claim that all his enemies are Satanic pedophiles who murder children to harvest a weird drug called adrenochrome from their dead bodies that causes paranoid schizophrenia (like the old blood libel against the Jews). The world has never seen anything like this before. Add this to the fact that he is a compulsive liar (this is not a put-down, it is an easily verifiable objective fact), that he has admitted to sexual abuse (Access Hollywood tape) & has been accused of rape, sexual abuse, and statutory rape by dozens of women, is heavily supported by the Klan & White Supremacist groups, has been declared a sociopath & probable malignant narcissist by some of the country’s top psychiatrists and a truly terrifying picture starts to emerge. Do I need to mention the money laundering and ties to organized crime? His apparent all-out war on the environment? His huge tax cuts for the wealthy, which will cost other people’s lives? If this is not what Yeats meant when he wrote “What rough beast, its hour come round at last, / Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”, then what exactly IS it?

  14. I know all this to be true, but I have feeling Obama is the Antichrist but……he does have a wife? So its semi a debunk until further power in authority! The Antichrist will not have a wife, sounds like a pope or priest, a pastor of some sort? Putin has a wife as well so let’s look out for a political man whom is a transgender and from the middle east without a wife?

  15. Everything you wrote can be applied to Obama, and for that matter, ANY socialist “democrat”. I really dont think the Lord God wants us to live in tyranny and the evils of socialism. Why is freedom evil? Why is liberty “anti-christ” like?

    • I don’t know of anyone, be it me, Wayne, Connie or ____ that believes freedom is evil or that liberty is antichrist. To whom and what are you referring?

    • You should really look up the definition of “socialism” and review the variant mechanism by which socialist principles can and can be applied. Americans have been greatly misled about socialism, significantly influences by capitalist propaganda and cold-war jingoism. If one looks closely at Jesus’s teachings and ministry, it is hard to reconcile the reality of corporate-capitalism with what Jesus taught and did.

      Public schools, Medicare and Medicaid, Unemployment Insurance, Social Security, The Federal Reserve, Farm Subsidies, Corporate Welfare, the IRS, Public Transportation (and police and fire), and the FDA – are all socialist programs and benefits.

      If Jesus were alive today, I’m of the mind that he’d be decidedly left-of-center in his politics.

  16. Hello Wayne and prophecy folks. I noticed these comments are happening farther and farther in-between. My last post received virtually no replies. I’ve tried to find a place to keep this conversation going. (I believe it’s worthy.) I decided to post on my FaceBook page. I’m hoping Wayne will let me leave a link. (Guess I’ll soon find out.) There is massive – and I mean massive – information on the page regarding Trump and the Antichrist, including but not limited to, large excerpts (chapters) from my book. Please let me know what you think. I covet your “likes”, if you are so inclined.

    God bless,

    https://www.facebook.com/RiseOfTheLittleHorn/

  17. Hello Folks,

    I’m back (sort of). I needed to step away from the back-and-forth grind and fatigue that I’m sure many of you have suffered from due to posting in forums. To refresh your memory, I’m the author of the book, Rise of the Little Horn — a book written before the presidential election with the not so subtle conclusion that Donald Trump was/is the AC. I believe most objections are, in fact, covered between its pages.

    If those whose disagree care to push back against that, I welcome the challenge of answering your objections. Please, give me one or two of your strongest points. Those of you who remember me know that I am (annoyingly) thorough. Don’t bombard me — please!

    Thanks and God bless you all!!

    If I don’t hear from you, I’ll just assume everyone here is finally on board — wink, wink.

    P.S. — Not sure how difficult it is to scroll back or search old posts, but last year, I responded, piece by piece, to each any every point in Wayne’s article. Thanks again to you Wayne for graciously allowing me to do that.

    • Jonathan,
      It seems that I can’t get on the internet without bumping into you, lol.
      You may remember me, you sent me a copy of your book; I enjoyed reading it. I made the mistake of letting someone borrow it, and now it appears that it’s lost… maybe it will turn up again. I hope you and your family are doing well. Don’t ask how I’m doing please.
      I can’t say that I have changed my position one Trump; for the most part, I still believe he is the second beast, and not the first. I’m under the persuasion that many of those scriptures in Daniel are actually referring to the second beast and not the first. You may remember that I said that Ronald Reagan was a better fit for the biblical description of the first Beast; I still believe that to be true. However, I am wide open for the possibility that I’m wrong, and devilish Don is the first Beast, and not the second.
      Look forward to talking again.

  18. Trump is absolutely the ANti Christ. My interpretation is in regards to the women not accompanying him. He has always had an illusion of a wife but not a true partner. Melanie is rarely with Trump. The worshipping is already happening. He is purposefully gaining access to Israel and his form of worship is the rallies by blind followers. He is charismatic , as the Bible says but is the liar and deceiver . It is clear to me.
    My entire life, I have had a reaccuring dream. It is of doomsday. I’m a survivor in a cave . I am still youngish . I’m 50 now so I think it will be in the next ten years.

  19. Yes.Trump history of womanizing disqualify him as antichrist, per Daniel.
    The concern is his unAmerican style hatred for immigrants in refusing amnesty or resolve of immigration reform like Regan.Many are concerned about Trump October 2020 Federal I’D law.Will the undocumented be hurled into FEMA camps for lack of legal papers or lD.There is no solution to this elephant in the room.Wayne Crowly, will you please write your thoughts on this topic. Reports say that even immigrants seeking to become legal and show up to appointments are ambushed by lCE and deported before a chance in a hearing.What about their lawyers showing up for them instead of taking risk as protection?
    This is a Nazi situation descending on America.
    1st Jews
    2nd Blacks
    Now minority immigrants eith black/brown skin!

    • I am not worried about people being thrown into FEMA camps at this time. I heard reports that people would be thrown into FEMA camps if they didn’t have health care back when Obamacare was introduced. There’s so much sensationalism and hysteria in the news. There was 10 years ago. There is now.

    • Hi Dave,

      Daniel 11:37 simply says that the AC will give no regard to the things women care about. It says nothing of his sexual preferences.

  20. Hahahahahahahaha
    Og course he is The AC He is just a human Shell Boeing manipulated by “The Scary Devil” it is laughable to see The Sheep WHO love him

  21. Having just attended a two day prophecy conference where I heard the information given by Gary Kah, a man who worked in the government as a foreign trade specialist and left it to start a ministry to expose all that he had learned behind the scenes, it makes no sense that anyone can say that Donald Trump is the antichrist. The powers that oppose him are trying desperately to get rid of him because he stands in the way of their global NWO agenda to bring in the antichrist government. He is a nationalist. He is improving the economy. He is doing everything that is against the NWO agenda and that is why they are so furious. It is a strange plan to put such a man in the place of president, who is stopping them from bringing forth the NWO, a plan they have been implementing for many decades now. It makes no sense whatsoever that he would work against himself in such a way if he were the antichrist. Obviously he is not.

      • It is a strange deception that pits the man against the entire agenda that would bring in the very situation that is needed to make him the antichrist. Obama and that lot are the New World Order. They are trying to take Trump down because he is anti-New World Order by being a nationalist and a capitalist. Neither of those things fit with the plans to bring in the antichrist. They are desperately trying to destroy this country economically and turn us into a socialist state for the antichrist. So exactly why is there a shadow government that undermines him at every turn if he is the very man they are waiting for? Only those who are so blinded by listening to the fake media instead of observing the truth of the situation think that Trump is the antichrist. If he is, he is working against his own people and agenda. That makes no sense whatsoever, but then neither does liberalism.

        • think about the AntiChrist doesn’t deceive the whole world yet – this is the beginning. He deceived the biggest democracy and “Christian nation”; this deception is the key to the AntiChrist taking over the world by creating a new world order => . the new world order with Putin etc oh the devil is a liar) yet ppl believe him and follow him blindly. Trump is the AntiChrist. he is a liar, and he will not leave office after this next election. BE READY for the reveal. We are still in the 1st half the tribulation…. it is when then the 2nd half of the tribulation – when the Antichrist reveals himself – He will force worship.

          • I have to disagree with you that we are in the first half of the tribulation. We have not yet begun Daniel’s 70th week. Until the temple goes up, you are not in the 70th week. You’ll know who the beast is when he reveals himself. You may find you are not expecting who it will be after all. So maybe you will be the one surprised. And you might want to quit listening to the liberal news media. They are owned by the deep state and are into brainwashing. They are not giving you the facts.

          • “I have to disagree with you that we are in the first half of the tribulation. We have not yet begun Daniel’s 70th week. Until the temple goes up, you are not in the 70th week.”

            Connie — I agree with you. (Scary, huh?)

          • Wow!! I am reading this on 12/9/2020 and your words were prophetic.. I too believe Trump is the antichrist- look at the chaos and confusion all around us, the deaths, the denials of COVID and the lies.. the division among us – people hating each other for their political beliefs, all the accusations of election fraud, threats of violence, the court cases..the list goes on and on.. And all this is presided by the father of chaos, lies, deceit, fornication -Trump himself!!

    • Donald Trump is a man of his word. He’s making the USA economically stronger day by day, and nationally safer. Getting the wall built will be a majorly victory for the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!! The USA had suffered a long, long, time through the disastrous Clinton, Bush Jr. and worst of all Obama administration, that took America into a whirling vortex of desent. President Trump is the first president in my lifetime who is fulfilling his campaign promises. All of the damn, irrational, opposition from the left is disgraceful and clearly demonstrates the lack of decorm that mires politics, the media, and so many folks in the entertainment industry. All of the Obamaphiles out there who regard that failure as some sort of god are beyond capable of thinking rationaly. Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents if not the worst president in history. Donald Trump is hated by close-minded ignornamuses because he’s a republican plain and simple. Open your frigging minds and stop regarding politics like it’s an f-ing religion. Great things are happening go now with Trump in power. So if the left wants to call him the most vulgar names under the sun, lie about him, and compare this great man to an imaginary demon, let them keep talking sh–. It means nothing to a majority of American’s who support and value President Trump for making America great again. Come election time 2020 and President Donald Trump will resume his duties as Commander and Chief, President of the United States of America!

      • Donald Trump is a liar. This is undeniable, even by republicans. He is emotionally stunted and behaves like a child. All he cares about is the worship he receives from his base. That’s why he does a rally every time he is sad. And his nationalism is just a mask for his racism.

      • Paul, Trump has taken your eyes of Christ.. who do you serve? Trump has convince you that he is the only hope for America… We are broken as humans and we all need forgiveness and God’s Grace. ” President Trump is the first president in my lifetime who is fulfilling his campaign promises.” Great things are happening go now with Trump in power.” yet we are far removed from Christ. Matthew 25:31-46 – Trump has convinced ppl to forget about God …remember he plays sympathy for the devil at his rallies. he is telling us who is… he has never ask for forgiveness. Yet he secured a lot of the US evangelical vote. Again, the deception is not about about the world…. he deceived the US voters who elected him, he will use this power to deceive and gain the world – which will lead to Armageddon. He is setting the stage which the news…..Israel and Trumps peace plan. Watch the signs.

  22. Hello The Last Jedi.

    The four horsemen of the Apocalypse are described in Revelation chapter 6, verses 1-8. The four horsemen are symbolic descriptions of different events which will take place in the end times.

    The first horseman, which is in question here, of the Apocalypse is mentioned in Revelation 6:2: “I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.”

    This first horseman likely refers to the Antichrist, who will be given authority over the world and will through various means conquer all who oppose him. The antichrist is the false imitator of the true Christ, who will also return on a white horse (Revelation 19:11-16).

    I believe the white horse represents a time of unparrelled world peace, but a false peace. It’s rider is carrying a bow which represents war, but the absence of arrows implies that this victory is a bloodless one, a peace won by covenant and agreement, but not by war (Daniel 9:24-27). The crown the rider wears refers to the kind of laurel wreath awarded winning athletes. It was “given to him”. Here we see it is actually the antichrist who is riding the white horse, and becomes king of the world after being elected by the world’s inhabitants regardless of the cost. He will start out to conquer the entire earth in a bloodless coup, but in a short period of time war will break out under His domination.

    During a time of unparrelled international crisis, possibly due to the rapture of the true church, the bride of Christ (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Revelation 4:1), the world will be desperately looking for such a leader, a savior who suddenly and symbolically appears on the scene riding a white horse holding out the symbolic olive branch of peace, not only between Israel and her neighboring enemies, but to the entire world as well.

  23. Donald J. Trump = Anti-Christ. He is the false Christ that Evilgelicals such as yourself blindly support and equivocate for 24-7. He has admitted to sexually assaulting women yet nowhere do you mention this.

    Melania Trump = Whore of Babylon. Consider her former “occupations.” Do the math, you little mathematician.

    • Antichrist is going to be a beloved figured who will receive the worship and praise of the world. No matter whether you like him or not, we have to recognize that most of the world doesn’t like Trump. He’s not the one.

      • Trump has a whore for a wife, so you’re not exactly looking at the evidence there. He’s playing you folks and you’re indulging him because you misguidedly believe that he’ll help bring about God’s Kingdom on Earth. Trump doesn’t believe that stuff, and he is only manipulating the gullible to his own ends. You religious hypocrites are selling out your own nation to a false prophet. Be not deceived- God is not mocked, and you mock God constantly with your support for Trump and the GOP.

        Your soul; your choice. Peace.

        • For the record, I don’t believe he will help bring God’s Kingdom on Earth. I’m not optimistic about America’s future, especially with the way things have been heading. Peace.

        • I don’t know about Trump’s wife, but aside from that, I think you made some very valid points above. For me, the biggest issue of Christians being so entrenched in partisan politics is the damage that it does to our witness. We as Christians have been tricked into getting involved in a political charade that has cultivated such hatred of the other side that our witness has been practically obliterated when it comes to half the populace. Non-believers want nothing to do with Christ simply because Christ equals political conservatism in their eyes. Trump has been the icing on the cake in that regard. If there’s one area I see as being a huge red flag that something has gone terribly, terribly wrong, it’s that. In no way does that mesh with what we’re called to be and do as believers. Whether or not Trump is Antichrist, I don’t know, but I do believe that hatred of Christians will crescendo as a result of our putting him in office. I also believe we deserve what’s coming. You are right about Galatians 6:7.

          • Join the discussion..The popular idea that the Antichrist will be loved by everybody overlooks a couple of important things the Bible tells us about the Beast.

            First, the Antichrist will only be worshiped by those who are doomed to take his mark and perish with him in the lake of fire. But everyone whose name is written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will not worship him, they will remain faithful to Jesus Christ. It is to be expected that as he begins to rise to power, the streets would be filled with protesters and weeping in the streets. It is understandable that such a vile person would trouble many people.

            Second, the Antichrist will not just appear and fulfill all the prophecies in one day. The prophecies will all be fulfilled – but over time. Antichrist will grow in power and influence from “a little horn, which GREW exceedingly great” (see Dan 8:9). He will be worshiped by all the lost people of the world, but not from the start. He will win people over as time passes, and grow in influence.
            .

          • It’s true that the Antichrist will be worshipped by only those who will take the Mark of the Beast. However, most people alive at that time will accept the Mark of the Beast. There will be a great falling away prior to the unveiling of the Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2), so don’t expect the number of Christians in the world to be large at the time of Antichrist.

            Also, I agree that the Antichrist will not fulfill all the prophecies in one day. He will start from humble beginnings before he rises to power. Antichrist may have people who oppose him initially. It’s hard for any leader to avoid opposition starting out. Hitler faced opposition from different groups in Germany when as he rose to power.

            But, the rider of the white horse will be seen as a messianic type of a figure. Antichrist will be seen by a messianic figure at some point in his career. Many opponents hate Trump so much that they will never seen him as a messianic figure. They despise him so much that they will resist his ideas even when he says the same things they did in the past (i.e. calling the border situation in the U.S. a humanitarian crisis. Democrats and the media called the border situation a humanitarian crisis in 2014, but now they deny that there’s a crisis because Trump says there’s one). I don’t see Trump ever winning his critics over.

          • It is true there are still a great many Christians within this current age, at least in name. The numbers are far lass when one considers that many Christians are so in name alone.

            There is also the issue of Trump signing the face of bibles and the Trump/Cyrus Temple Coin (which is highly disturbing on both accounts). I think this is sufficient for some considering him a messianic figure.

            The issue of the border, Trump claims the crisis is an invasion. His opponents have continued saying it is a humanitarian crisis (not an invasion). The wall is not meant to help a humanitarian crisis. It is to prevent those attempting to escape horrible conditions from entering the US.

            Matthew 25 31-46 seems applicable….

            41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

          • Matthew 25:31-46 concerns a judgment known as the Sheep and Goat judgment. This judgment has nothing to do with the current situation. The judgment concerns how the survivors of the tribulation will treat the Lord’s people during the tribulation. It’s a judgment that will determine who among the survivors will enter the Millennium kingdom.

          • Indeed, the passage does not speak directly of current events. Though the substance remains even still. Should all passages within the Bible be attributed only towards the exact situations in which they speak there would be very little to apply today in this moment.

            A tribulation being defined as “a cause of great trouble or suffering”, are those who seek asylum not enduring great trouble and/or suffering? Are we who are fortunate enough to live in a land that could provide them with safety and comfort not surviving against the injustice occurring in those people’s homelands? Are we to be as those in Bethlehem who told Mary there was no room? Are we to cast them away simply because we cannot recognize a tribulation could very well be occurring? Are we to judge these people or events to determine them unworthy of applying compassion, build a wall so that we may keep our materialistic toys and feed our love of money.

            To do a kindness simply because you know you are being tested takes away the virtue of the kindness, for you only committed the kindness for the promise of reward. The kindness should be it’s own reward. This is why I say so many are only Christian in name. They who do acts only to buy a ticket to Heaven, they who go to church once or twice a week but do not apply the lessons everyday in every way they can. To many go to church on Sunday and the stripclub on Friday. To many practice hate and bigotry throughout the week only to find themselves in Church on Sunday, shaking hands and smiling a righteous smile. To many remain silent and complicit when they witness injustice.

            Now, I am far from perfect. I do not even consider myself a Christian. Even still, I do what I can to apply biblical teachings. Not so I can get admission to Heaven (I don’t believe I would qualify for entry). Not because I fear Hell (If this is where my deeds take me then so be it). I will continue to do what I can for those I encounter in my life. I will continue to speak against injustice when I see it. I will do this because I believe in kindness and compassion. Because I believe my motives be based in love for ALL, regardless of where they come from or what they believe. Reguardless for what it may cost me.

            So yes, the scripture I mentioned may be speaking of another situation, I could very well be wrong to draw the comparison. But I will not close my country against those who seek a better life, even when there is risk to myself. I will not hold my compassion until I am being tested. Perhaps I have been tested my entire life.

          • There are significant portions of the Bible which have application to today. The Book of Proverbs is an example. It’s a book that contains so much wisdom for daily life.

            I’m not here to argue for or against the border wall nor the motives behind it. I was trying to bring up the point that Trump faces opposition that despises him so much that he is likely to never win them over. The Antichrist is a person who will win many critics over if he faces opposition early in his career.

            I applaud your compassion. The world would be a much better place if people were more compassionate.

            I know you don’t consider yourself a Christian, but I feel compelled to post the following link for anyone who might read this who is unsure about whether they will go to Heaven when they die:

            https://www.prophecyproof.org/are-you-going-to-heaven/

          • Agreed, proverbs does have much wisdom. My only intent here is to clarify that although there are many who claim to be Christian, there are fewer and fewer who actually TRY to be Christians. The falling away which you spoke of before may not be in name but in deed.

            The rise of white supremacy, bigoted nationalism, islamophobia, xenophobia, homophobia and fear of all kinds suggests people are quick to pass judgment on those unlike themselves. Hate has a strong standing in today’s society and is bolstered by the current administration directly as well as indirectly by refusing to speak against it in any terms until practically forced to do so.

            The antichrist is said to be very successful in defeating his opponents. Not necessarily winning them over entirely. When those who oppose him lose their platform it just clears his path. This process is slow and steady and could very well be occurring at this very moment. Reguardless if Trump is intentionally allowing the forces of hate to act through him or if he is unwittingly acting as a pawn. Casting doubt against the judicial processes, his language against new agencies who oppose him as “Fake News”. His statements suggesting only he can save us from this or that. His love of mammon and his embrace of tyrants, dictators and autocrats. There is much to suggest he is AN antichrist if not THE antichrist. A Trumpet is a “little horn” after all. His name Donald translates as “World Ruler”. There is much to consider. I only hope those who oppose him retain the resolve to resist, keeping truth to your words on him never winning them over. I pray his time at the head of this nation be limited, I pray that a good man or woman replaces him in the next election. I pray that we can heal the division within our country and once again be the great nation who held true to the inscriptions on the Statue of Liberty which read:

            “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.“

            Brightest Blessings

          • It seems that people do not understand that there is a difference between personal Christian compassion, and a leader upholding the laws of the country he has sworn to protect. Israel had laws as well. God expects the leaders to lead in the best interest of the people they protect by upholding the laws, and to offer compassion in a way that does not hurt its own people in the process. Trump is only trying to uphold the laws that exist by not allowing illegal, and I like so many others want to reiterate that it is illegal immigrants, to enter our country. He has no problem with those who go through the legal process. He told the ones entering illegally to go to the border crossings and go through the process, but they have refused. Why should we offer asylum to people who so obviously do not respect or will live by the laws of our land.

            His goal is to help our country get back to the prosperous land that it was and he is doing that. It won’t last of course, because in the end, the enemy will destroy us, but meanwhile in doing that, it allows us to take in that many more immigrants, for then we can support them, or is that too hard for people to understand. If we have a socialist country, we will have Venezuela all over again. Everyone will be starving. He is trying to prevent that, but everyone is against him. Do not judge him by the standards of what a good Christian is. Judge him by the standards of what a good leader does to protect the people he has sworn to serve. He has done more good for this country in two years than the past few presidents have done put together. Very low unemployment for all races. Prosperity for everyone, lower taxes, people brought back from being captives in other countries. The list goes on and on. And now he has been completely exonerated from this ridiculous claim that it was Russian collusion that put him in office. No it wasn’t. It was those of us who were tired of the political rhetoric that meant nothing but to bring us into the NWO. Trump is anti the NWO and pro nationalism which is what every Christian should want. The NWO is the antichrist’s political platform.

          • The summary of a man placed in a position to receive a report about the person who placed him in that position is hardly “complete exoneration”. Especially considering the quote which specifically stated it did not exonerate. I remain unconvinced and will until I have the ability to read the report with my own eyes, even if that means waiting until freedom of information requests and/or declassification occurs. It could be weeks, months or years before I am able to form an opinion on his involvement.

            I cannot believe a human to be illegal simply by walking across an imaginary line, especially considering most of our ancestors crossed an ocean and killed the rightful inhabitants of this land… forcing many of them to flee south. Many of the people coming across this imaginary line are descendants of the natives who walked this land before we arrived.

            I do not advocate for socialism, I would rather advocate for a balance between capitalism and socialism. When the balance tilts to far in either direction neither has a good outcome, one would provide communism, the other provides fascism. Balance is the model we have used for our prosperity. It is what has allowed us to build a great nation and lead by example for so long.

            It’s common for presidents to serve half the country, while ignoring the other half. It’s common for them to appease their base without ever actually trying to bridge the gap. Shameful, but common and not unique to this president. A good leader shows a willingness to hear the voices of all of his people. A good leader does not demonize those who disagree with him. A good leader will try to see things from the perspective of those he does not understand. A innocent man would welcome an investigation rather than attempt to prevent it. After all, if innocent then why fear?

            I do not judge him, nor do I judge those who follow him. But I do see a platform based on hate and fear, I do see a great division being cast from all sides. I however can not accept Trump as my savior. I do not fear immigrants, I’m willing to pay my share to provide healthcare and education to as many as I can and fight for fair living wage. I would prefer a plan to work with Mexico to prevent the need for people to immigrate in the first place, it can be done. All of it can be done if only we have the courage and conviction to try.

            Brightest Blessings

      • Wayne, I showed you before your comment above was posted that this “beloved theory” is not supported in the Bible. Why do you continue to circulate it? What was that chapter and verse again that says the Antichrist is “beloved?” It’s one thing to say this unknowingly, but we addressed this. What am I to make of that? I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.

        • Revelation 6:1-2 indicates that the rider of the white horse, Antichrist, is viewed as a messianic type of figure, a counterfeit Christ. I believe that Revelation 6:1-2 coincides with the brokering of Daniel 9:27’s covenant with many, which is likely to be a Mideast peace deal that protects Israel and permits the reinstitution of temple sacrifice in the future Third Temple. If a man today brought peace to the Mideast and to Israel he would win a Noble Peace Prize and more. He would be extremely popular in Israel and elsewhere as he would solve a problem that has vexed world leaders and activists for many decades.

          Some of my view of Antichrist is shaped by what happened with Hitler, who I believe the book of Revelation prophesied in verse 17:10 (the other that has not yet come, but will for a short time) and who I believe gives us insight into what Antichrist will be like as Antiochus Epiphanes IV gives us insight into the Antichrist.

          Hitler was viewed as a Messianic figure and had extremely high popularity within Germany before World War 2. Women went crazy for him. Children sang songs that deified him.

          I have articulated my beliefs on the topic regarding Trump and you have articulated yours. Let the people decide and let time show who is right and who is wrong.

          • For old time’s sake:

            Regarding your first paragraph: That could just as easily be Trump as anyone else. In fact presently, it’s more likely Trump than anyone else.

            Regarding your second paragraph: 1.) Your logic is based on 20th century history, not Scripture. 2.) Even if we accept your theory that Hitler was prophesied in Scripture as a type of the Antichrist, that still does not prove your point, namely – “Trump can’t be the Antichrist because he will be beloved by everyone.” In point of fact, Hitler was never loved by everyone. If you want to say he was loved by a segment of the world, I would say the same about Trump. In terms of numbers, Trump is loved by more people than Hitler was. Germany’s total population was 69 million before WW2. 30% of America’s population is nearly 100 million.

            Regarding your third paragraph: Its amazing to hear you talk of Hitler being a Messianic figure and yet are seemingly unaware that Trump is also a messianic figure. Pat Robertson said he had a vision of Trump standing at the right hand of the Father. And don’t get me started on Israel.

            Please check out my Facebook page. I have TONS of evidence supporting that what I am saying is factual. You are welcome to voice any and all objections. Anyone can comment — no restrictions.
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          • Can you update your article with insight on new/recent occurrences? -9/20 Abraham Accords and Nobel Peace Prize candidate
            -the power Trump will have if he wins and can replace/change a lot about the government (due to exposing voter fraud/massive government involvement)
            -how this would affect the world (if voting has been compromised there, too, plus general upheaval and possible accolades given to Trump)
            -10 kings are possibly tech giants/corporations/political leaders involved?

            Lots happening now through inauguration, plus seeing how it all settles down. I don’t want it to be Trump; I want to believe that he wants the best for our country. But he does have the personality to be the AC, has plenty of people who adore him (the pre-election rallies, plus now being the hero to uncover and expose the fraud), and will possibly end up having a lot of power/respect/adoration within the U.S. and across the world. Bible says he will manipulate the masses….wouldn’t it be the greatest irony of Satan to have the Antichrist come from one of our own? The evangelicals/ right-wing / conservatives? We would never see it coming.

          • I addressed the Abraham Accords briefly in the article and at the following link: https://www.prophecyproof.org/abraham-accord-covenant-with-many/

            I don’t think Trump being nominated for the Nobel Prize several times is that big of a deal. Obama actually won the Nobel Prize, and some claimed that this was evidence that Obama was the Antichrist. Obama is not the Antichrist.

            I don’t view the tech/corporate leaders as the ten kings, especially now. The tech leaders despise Trump, and you see this through the censoring of his Twitter account and the social media accounts of his allies.

            Trump being a given a second term would likely unleash extreme political instability in the U.S. Half the country will think the election will be stolen no matter what happens now. However, I expect Anti-Trump forces would really make their displeasure known if Trump wins as they were led to believe Trump lost decisively.

    • David committed adultry with Bathsheba and had her husband killed. David was loved and used by the MOST HIGH. The whore of Babylon is the Vatican, if you knew the scriptures coupled with history you would know these things.

  24. Where in Revelation 6 does the Bible elude to anything about the rider on the white horse being the antichrist or that he is a negative figure. White has never represented bad in the Bible. It’s doesn’t say he had two horns like a lamb but speaks as a dragon as it does when describing the Anti-Christ in latter chapters. It’s is simply a white horse with a rider whom is actually released by Christ. In latter chapters that anti-christ is empowered by the dragon or Satan. It doesn’t give any such description in this chapter.

    Some believe it to be Elijah. He does come first right?

    • Many believe the white horse is a false messiah figure because it is white, yet it’s not Christ. The intent of the white horse is conquest after obtaining power (it’s crown).

    • That is unscriptural. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 says that Jesus will not return until the Anti-Christ (lawless one) is revealed.

  25. Perhaps calling The Donald the antichrist is going a step too far, or maybe just half a step. I don’t believe that the antichrist would show himself all at once as Revelation suggests, but rather a step by step program that seduces the weak minded and easily lead first, as Trump has done, while courting the conspiracy theorists and the educated fundamental Christians who teeter on the brink of the presidential abyss. But if not the antichrist then certainly a precursor. The antichrist would need to blend in a bit while making his presence known by his charisma, charm and “miracles.”
    Trump may not fit the profile exactly as laid down by John or Daniel, but he comes uncomfortably close by those of us whose eyes are wide open and have grown wider still since the inauguration.

  26. So… Where to begin? Ok, first don’t take anything I say in this post at face value. Please take some time and research for yourselves. Pray on it if you’re inclined to do so. Recent prophecies come to fruition: the red heifer was born. The snake came out of the Western wall. Jerusalem was named Israel’s capitol. 70th anniversary of the Jews going home. The Euphrates river dried up. The sacrifices on the alter of the 3rd Temple. All verifiable facts and all biblical prophecy.. Commonalities between pres. Trump and the Antichrist. Lineage: scripture says the Antichrist is Assyrian, but it also says he’s Roman. Not the contadiction it first appears to be. Trump’s ancestor came from a area of Germany that history records as having both Assyrians and Romans living in it at the same time. He does and says whatever he please with no actual consequences. He does things his predecessors only hoped they could accomplish (North Korea anybody?) Look at what he’s doing with our military. (Who can make war with the beast?) Before people go asking about the more would… Scripture says he APPEARED to have a moral would to the Head. Trump had a slightly botched plastic surgery on his scalp to correct a bald spot. He was none to pleased with the result according to his ex wife, so I read in a few articles. Heck, just the other day he had protested attacking his motorcade, and did the secret service rush him away? Nope, he rolled down his window, spoke to them for a moment, AND THEN THEY JUST LEFT HIM ALONE. He brings Bible study into the White House, reads from the Bible on the White House front lawn, and yet he basically promotes transgenderism (no offense intended to anyone. I only bring it up in context of correlation in the Bible) belittles people publicly, takes credit for basically everything. He relishes in only the finest of things, he every won the presidency against nigh impossible odds. He wins with flatteries and crushes basically anyone who opposes him. I will not say he is the beast, but there are many similarities that are little known but also hard to dismiss. The sad thing for me is, before I learned of these things and did my own research and confirmations of them, I was 100% on the trump bandwagon like many. Unfortunately, the things I’ve come to learn of him combined with the things I see occurring in the world make a pretty strong case that he may indeed be…. Well, do your own truth searching folks. God bless.

    • A small grammatical correction. my phone auto corrected on me. Mortal wound, not more would, lol. As for the transfer bet thing, I only used it as an example of what might be considered a “biblical blasphemy”. Also, he once publicly stated that he doesn’t see repentance as “necessary”…. Just more food for thought

  27. Hello Wayne, my name is John Dixon, I live north of Indy. This position you’ve taken, and demonstrated is so very true, well explained and in my perspective removes him from all the criteria to be an antichrist. He loves American, and has seen the world over, was a Playboy like I was before salvation, and merely wants to pour his time into restoring this nation. Is he rough around the edges, yes, but so are most, they just hide it well. He is gracious, caring, yet will pull out the baseball bat on anybody who’s abusive where ever. Thank you.

  28. Trump at the very least is the little horn and I can all but prove it. He is also the King of Babylon, which New York. New York use to be our capital. I have also made a ridiculous amount of connections to Egypt with him being some kind of Osiris/Horus/Set character in the vein of Ramses II. Things that when looked at together, are beyond explanation. He is either the direct precursor to the Antichrist, here to create chaos so the real Antichrist can create order, or he is THE guy His mother’s name was Mary, his father’s middle name was Christ and Donald John means “Ruler of the world blessed by Yah”. Yah (or Jah, Iah) was the name of an Egyptian moon god associated with Osiris. I have mounds of data on all of this. Just check out this TV show called Trackdown episode name, End of the World from 1958. Its about a conman beating a drum (Trumps last name was originally Drumpf, which means drum or drummer) telling everyone that the end of the world is coming and only he can save them by building them a wall. This “wall” turns out to be nothing but a parasol which is suppose to deflect meteorites that are going to hit the earth. So he has technology to protect people from outerspace. Kind of like what the Space Force has been talking about doing with asteroids. He also threatens to sue someone, he’s literally called “The High Priest of Fraud” and makes fire come down from the sky to fool people. Makes them all panic and delusionally believe whatever he says while one guy in the town tried to talk sense into people but they won’t listen. It’s so spot on its bizarre and its only ONE of MANY of these that are like. President Business from the Lego movie? That’s so obviously Trump and its from 2014.

  29. Asked myself with his egoin his early 30s he was a multi millionaire why wouldnt he get hair inplants anyone that age with that money and ego buy hair plugs / hair transplant very fishy so i Google imaged trumps hair bliwing in the wind so i blew up wvery picture oh his hair blowimg and i was blown away look close uou can see his horns i thought ok yourvsing things but then i noticed not only the horns but the shadows they cast that goof hairs just camouflage

  30. “He will make war with the saints”… the Spirit of the AntiChrist is rising (today ppl were killed at a synagogue in Pitt. and few days ppl where killed after shooter couldn’t get in a church in KY at a Kroger…. The Antichrist spirit is in Donald Trump – Trump doesn’t have the spirit of Christ. You will know those who are of Christ by the fruit that they bear..Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Trump is a liar, He is the opposite of the Fruit of the Spirit. He is a fear monger, hater, has no patience, unfaithful and no self control. OPEN YOUR EYES. MAGA – your faith should never be with a man, but in Christ but Trump state to his followers (he alone can fix it stated during the Republican convention)…. ARE YOU BLIND? he plays Sympathy for Devil at this rallies. REALLY?

    He has brain washed many…. you should always question this world! yet, Trump condemns those who challenge him.

  31. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” (Dan 11:37) I think you are misinterpreting this wrong. I have swyers syndrome and as such i have a unique outlook on things. The desire of women does not have to mean sex in fact the desire of most women is not sex but respect and equality. The ability to not have to be forced into doing things. Trump does not regard God in fact he uses Christians and has said so on a couple of occasions. Also He has a different kind of influence and the right is rising in the world. Now one might think that was a good thing but it is not a wholesome right wing but a perverted hateful nazi right wing. The leopard reborn spawned from nazi germany but no longer a part of her. So we come to all four parts of the beast from the sea the lion, the uk, the leopard (the right wing), the bear
    ( russia) the dragon ( china). They are gaining power without the use of force. So he is at least a type of antichrist. Global warming also was predicted in the bible and global warming is what is fueling all the global disasters in the world. We were set as stewards of the earth and we are killing it. Trump is hurrying up the process by dismantling the EPA and FDA. Towards the last part of revelations it states that Christ returns to judge the earth and to destroy those that destroy the earth Revelation 11:18 So the thing that the world keeps refusing to repent of is saving the earth which in itself represents all kinds of greed and sins. I am the least of Gods Children and I am here to warn you that if this is not the time it is one of the times and you may still have a chance to stop it. But that means getting together and voting trump out and realigning against the other members of the beast. If trump should truly repent and change his ways great but i doubt it because I have already attempted to witness to him and the reaction was to punish the vulnerable. I hope you all heed my warning because The Lord puts those things in the bible not to scare us but to warn us in the hopes that we heed it. But The Lord also knows that eventually it will come about anyway but it doesn’t have to be today.

    • Join the discussion…Daniel 11:37 isn’t about the sexual desires of the antichrist it’s about all the different gods the antichrist doesn’t regard. If you read Daniel 11:36 through Daniel 11:38 it helps you understand. The god desired by women of iniquity in the time era Daniel was writing about is Tammuz (Ezekiel 8:14). In all actuality, Daniel 11 describes Donald Trump to a “T”,(pun intended). Trump is the antichrist without any doubt. The first seal is already opened and the second seal will be opened soon. Once a quick WWIII is over, Trump will confirm the covenant with many which will start the 70th week.

  32. As much as I support Trump in being the president I will never bow and worship him. IMHO Hussain Obama fit the picture of the antichrist better than what Trump does. Arrogant, charismatic and globalist and will do everything (and still do) to shove his agenda down people’s throats.

    • Arrogant and Charismatic is not the only markers of the antichrist spirit. the antichrist spirit is the opposite of the fruit of Spirit of God.

      Also, you don’t bow down…no. but you follow – and support him,,,, isn’t this the same. many who attend the rallies worship him by following him blindly and defending him and excusing him. yet he has never ask God for forgiveness. This is a core principle of faith when following Christ.

      Open you eyes and look for the fruit of the spirit! Trump bears no good fruit or perhaps you should ask yourself Does Trump display the fruit. Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

    • Really? Come on man! Far too many in the faith community have disrespected President Obama because he had a liberal perspective. So did Christ! President Obama was a great President, good wholesome family man and tried to bring the nation together. I do not see that with this curent, wicked clown occupying the WH. Take your white evangelical blinders off and recognize our President is filled with unrighteousness and pure evil. I see no compassion, love, or kindness associated with Christianity or even Islam for that matter. Do not think he is the anti-Christ but he certainly not someone I want my family to emulate or look up to. Hatred, bigotry, divisiveness, wickedness, adultery, money laundering, fraud, tax evasion, these are not of Christ…

  33. Hi. Trump cannot be the antichrist. Rev 13 first talks about the first beast out of the sea as political. The second beast is religious. Trump is far from being religious. When you see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place claiming to be god. Gary

    • I believe the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place to be a nuclear bomb built there in secret as it would be a violation to the jews,muslims and christians alike. IF you take the words apart and look them you will see that what they are describing is a nuclear bomb. The directions given to the people to flee and where to flee also implies that it is a bomb. A person would not instill that kind of terror.

  34. Satan will have a two tiered approach in this age. First he will attempt to deceive through flattery and obtain compromises from God’s people. If that does not work, we will execute on violence. Violence will come from Satan against Christians that actually effect biblical change. If the Christian is ineffective and a compromiser they will not see any hostility, only attempts to manipulate. President Trump is stirring up strife and violence because he is being effective in advancing a Christian agenda. That is the way it happens.

    • If smashing the hopes of the vulnerable is a christian agenda then may the Lord come Quickly and I do not say that lightly as it will be a day of terror, doom and gloom before Christ returns.

  35. The Anti Christ is the former president Barrack Hussein Obama. For he also didthe things that are mentioned, badly yes but that was the plan all along. He along. with his evil henchmen sought de stabilization of all kinds. If you look back on his administrations actions objectively, u will see just that. Trump has been anointed to tear down and expose this horrible corruption of the earth and the siphoning of money an resources of Gods land. The devil knows nd will not go quietly. This is where the tribulation comes to play.. check out Q anon on utube. Awaken…for the realization of what has enslaved the population of Earth is at hand.

  36. I have a question for anyone on this thread who believes Trump is the AC (or at least the one who will make the 7-year covenant with many). Assuming that is true for the moment, that would imply that the U.S. is the little horn of Daniel 7. I have one question, which I don’t yet have a satisfactory answer: Who is mystery Babylon? My apologies if I have missed this being answered elsewhere (I’d appreciate if you could reply with a link).

    A brief background on the motivation for the question: Assuming that Trump is AC, then he most likely will sign the treaty before completing 8 years in office, and relinquishing power. Within this time span, I find it difficult to see any great city/nation that well fits the description of Babylon in Rev 17 &18. I’ve read several opinions on this (e.g. Mecca, Baghdad, N.Y., Rome, etc…). However, they all seem to fall short in one way or another IMHO, unless of course the end will not be for several years, which will give enough time for a Babylon-type city to arise and gain more power and economic/political influence. However, if we go with the presumption that Trump is AC, we’re pretty much out of time, and we Babylon must be among the current geopolitical powers. So, my question is: who is it, and how do they satisfy Rev 17 & 18 requirements?

    Much thanks.

    • Its jerusalem. That is why john was astonished to find out. She became a prostitute since babylon. She is no longer God’s wife. She became adulterous and idolatrous. She is likened to sodom and egypt where the prophets, the saints, and the Lord was killed.

      • Thanks for the reply! Here are the problems I have with Jerusalem: 1) I don’t believe Jerusalem is destroyed by the AC (Dan 11:45), and yet AC will destroy Babylon (Rev 17:16); 2) Jerusalem, as central as she is to God’s prophetic plan, is not a city which I’d consider to be the center of world commerce that rules over the kings of the Earth. (see, e.g., Rev 18:3).

        [If you take the “center of commerce” angle, I’d have to go with the US (at least in the present day, with the US holding the world reserve currency, etc…). However, if we presume that Trump is AC, then the US is taken off the table (unless you were going to try to argue that Trump, as AC, arises from the US, but takes out his own city (i.e. NY) because it opposes him. With today’s political climate, that may not be impossible, but I’d say it’s only a remote possibility.]

        Back to my main line of thought RE Jerusalem, point 3) The prostitute sits on the beast – she uses the beast for her own luxuries, and he uses her for legitimacy, until he no longer needs her, and can throw her off his back. She also is responsible for the death of countless martyrs. While you could argue that Jerusalem has some political influence today through Jewish leaders around the world, working in many governments and businesses, I don’t see their collective power as being gathered into one city. Nor do I think Jerusalem is responsible for the death of myriad saints. Sure, the Jews persecuted the Christians in the early church, but I don’t think it reaches quite the scale that Revelation describes about Babylon.

        [If anything, if you take the ” religious harlot” angle, I’d think Rome would play the strongest candidate, especially if the Roman catholic church gets in bed with the AC… The problem there, however, is that Rome is not a center of world commerce.

        This brings me back to my original question: If we assume that Trump is AC, then that fixes a certain timetable that is very near. However, I still can’t identify a clear city that fits all the requirements for Babylon (as discussed above) within such a short timeframe. Can someone help me here?

        Much appreciated.

        • I would caution against trying to interpret Bible prophecy passages based on a preconceived timeline, especially one that is so short in time. I’ve seen many people in the past make wrong predictions by doing that.

          Habakkuk 2 is a very interesting chapter. Based on its relationship to Isaiah 14, it’s an end time chapter that I believe refers to the Antichrist. Habakkuk 2:12-14 indicates that the Antichrist will build a city with blood and iniquity. I believe that city is a reference to Babylon the Great. Therefore, I believe it’s likely that Babylon the Great is likely to become the city described in Revelation 17 and Revelation 18 through the work of Antichrist.

          • Hi Wayne,

            Thanks. Just to be clear, as I tried to indicate in my earlier message, I’m not trying to predict who is Babylon the great, per se. I’m just entertaining the hypothetical that, IF Trump were in fact the AC, and we fix that variable in place (including the timeline that would go along with that), what other variables would be determined (e.g., US would be the little horn, and not Babylon)? If those variables are unlikely to be possible in the near future, then, working backwards, it reduces the probability that Trump is AC. Hope that makes sense.

            As for the verses you cited, are you trying to argue that AC will be the King of Babylon (i.e., build it up, make it rich and powerful), and then will destroy his own city at the end? I’ve always seen Babylon the Great (as described in Rev 17 and 18) as a separate entity from the Beast/little horn (although deeply intertwined) . In other words, AC will rise up through the little horn (which is a kingdom that started out as a “little horn” that grew up among the 10 horns, but has grown “larger than its associates”; c.f. Dan. 7:8, 20).

            [In this sense, under current geopolitical circumstances, I can see the US as conceivably being the little horn (having started as a small horn (colony) among the larger European powers), but having grown in might to become larger than its associates. Arguably, the US is still within the same progeny as Daniel’s 4th beast (assuming that beast was the Roman Empire).]

            The little horn (whoever it is) will eventually be the leader of the union of the 10 horns. However, I see this union as being distinct from the kingdom of Babylon itself, and will eventually destroy Babylon. (cf. Rev. 17: 12-18). In my view, the beast gets his religious legitimacy, in part, from the harlot, and in turn makes the harlot rich. Do you see it differently? How would you characterize the exact relationship of the harlot and the beast?

          • Antichrist is represented in Bible prophecy as the end time king of Babylon. In other words, it’s like a nickname for him. Antichrist will NOT destroy Babylon the Great. Revelation 17:16 indicates that only the ten kings will destroy the city.

            “And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.”

            Revelation 17:17 indicates that the ten kings will provide their power to the Antichrist UNTIL they destroy Babylon the Great. The destruction of Babylon the Great implies that the Antichrist’s kingdom is at an end.

            Antichrist and Babylon the Great are likely to cooperate with each other (depicted by the harlot riding the beast). Antichrist provides Babylon the Great her influential position while Babylon the Great works on behalf of the Antichrist to advance his agenda.

          • Thanks for clarifying. I think we have an honest difference of interpretation of Rev. 17:16-17. I view the ten horns as giving their authority to the AC, and AC (as the leader of the 10 horns) will destroy Babylon at some point between the middle and end of the 7 years, and demand worship of the whole world. The AC will only later be destroyed by Jesus Himself at the battle of Armageddon, when Jesus returns in the clouds, and he will be thrown alive into hell. AC will not be destroyed by the ten horns. Indeed, AC himself will destroy 3 out of the 10 horns. However, I appreciate your thoughts.

            On the original question, it appears that neither of us has a good idea of who Babylon is at this time. That’s fine. I just wanted to know if anyone on this thread who claims to believe Trump is AC has a good answer to that question.

            Thanks.

          • G.F.
            Brief reply to GB’s comments above. You and I seem to be on the same wave length concerning Mystery Babylon, the timing of mystery Babylon and concerning the person of the Antichrist. Revelation chapters 17 & 18 have a lot to say about Mystery Babylon. So does an O.T. prophet.
            Concerning the nationality of the “FUTURE FUEHRER”, he has to be a European from a specific nation !!!, and he will not be a Jew. Daniel has a lot to say about his character description, his “origin” etc. and the type of person he will be. John The Baptist was the “Forerunner” of Christ, so one might say that the second “Beast” (Antichrist) and the third “Beast” the “False Prophet” to come also will have their “Forerunners” in order to test the waters! During the Second World war there were two famous individuals who did fit that bill, who had an astounding way of rallying the troops sort of to speak and knew how to mesmerize millions of people by way of speeches and by using the then available mass media, and one of them was a real propaganda machine and “mouthpiece” to boot. So Brother, put on your thinking cap and try to figure out the nationality of the AC and zero in on Mystery Babylon!
            Both are not easy tasks and it will take time and effort. Even if you should “decode” these challenges, you can not go public with it, however it will give you great satisfaction. Please remember that the “official identity” of the AC will not be made known by God until the specific event the Apostle Paul has spoken about has taken place!

            Bless you in the name of our Lord Jesus.

          • I’m not the fastest reader, Wayne, but I’ve been slowly reading your book. I’m enjoying it; it’s very helpful and insightful.

          • Look up Illuminati, Club of rome, Jesuits. Pope and a leading Imam signed a treaty of human rights type thing saying the Christian God Jesus and Allah are the same whuch they are NOT. This was done Feb. 2019

          • Interesting thoughts.

            I tend to have the same style of thinking that you described of yourself w/ regard to fixing certain variables in order to get an idea of how that would affect everything upstream/downstream. I like to think it’s a safeguard against getting locked into a single set of ideas, which is something I’ve personally had happen and feel I’ve seen in others when discussing these things in the past.

            Having said that, I’ve always considered AC and the little horn as being the same person. I’ll have to give what you said about the two being separate entities some thought. I don’t think Trump is AC, but I don’t think he isn’t AC either. I just consider in my mind that it is a possibility at the moment. Habakkuk 2 notwithstanding, is there some reason why Trump couldn’t be AC and NYC be Babylon the city?

            Just curious.

          • RE Trump being the AC: I’m reserving my thoughts about that. I could say much more about it, but it would distract from my current question on this thread. For now, I’ll just say that he is a unique figure that doesn’t come around very often.

            I’ll try to clarify my thoughts on AC, little horn, and Babylon, and how I think they may differ from Wayne (although not sure):

            I think Daniel 7 teaches that there will be 10 horns, which represent 10 kingdoms. I also think that Revelation 17 teaches that they represent 10 kings, but these kings will only arise from their respective kingdoms at the end time. When exactly the 10 horns themselves arise I think is up for debate. I believe they arise from the remnants of the Roman Empire, although I acknowledge that there is debate even over that point (cf. Joel Richardson). Assuming that they arise from the remnants of the Roman Empire (4th beast), I think those kingdoms likely are in existence today, have have been in existence for some time. What’s missing is the exact confederation of 10 that will exist at the end time (e.g. some subset of the EU or NATO, etc.)

            From among the 10 horns, a little horn will arise. I believe the little horn also represents a kingdom. However, it also represents a king, and a unique king different from the others. Daniel say that a man’s eyes and mouth were in the little horn, who spoke boastfully. I believe this king is the AC. What is interesting to me is that the little horn starts out as little, but then grows to become “bigger than its associates.” To me, this suggests that the US could be in view here. The US grows as a small and young new nation from among the older European powers at the time, until, over 200 years, it becomes a superpower. I’m still not sure, but let’s assume for the moment that the US is the little horn (incidentally, I think Dan. 2:43 well describes the US today).

            All that we would be waiting for then is the AC (a person) to arise and to rule over the little horn (which is now large and powerful), and for the 10 kings to be given authority for “one hour” to rule over the 10 horns, while pledging allegiance to the AC. So, to be clear, I view the AC as being a person who rules over a kingdom (i.e. the “little horn”).

            Now, let’s assume that Trump is AC (or at least, he signs the 7 year covenant – we can deal with issues with Rev 17: 9-11 later). That implies that indeed, the US is the little horn, and AC derives much of his military might from the US power (and, of course, Satan’s power). If NYC were to be Babylon, that would mean that AC would be destroying a part of his own kingdom, which seems unlikely to me. I also believe, in contrast to Wayne, that Rev. 17:16-17 teaches that the Beast, in confederacy with the other 10 horns, will destroy Babylon. I don’t see the 10 horns as ganging up on the little horn to destroy it, which Wayne apparently believes, since he views AC as being the King of Babylon, as well as the king of the little horn. Wayne, please correct me if I misunderstand.

            Furthermore, if Babylon and the little horn were one and the same thing, then it would seem to me that AC is without an army at the battle of Armageddon (since Babylon would be destroyed by then), which goes against my understanding of Scripture.

            Instead, I believe the more likely scenario is that AC rules the little horn, which dominates the other 10 (and eventually destroys 3 of them), and together, they destroy Babylon. I believe they will likely destroy Babylon on or about the same time that AC demands worship of himself, and abolishes the world ecumenical religious system in place at that time.

            Furthermore, I view AC as being present with his army at the battle of Armageddon, along with all the other armies of the Earth. Then Jesus returns in the clouds, and wipes them all out.

            Hope that helps clarify things. Let me know where you might agree or disagree. Thanks!

          • To clarify, I view the little horn mainly as the Antichrist the person. I don’t view the destruction of Babylon the Great as the destruction of the little horn. I view the destruction of the little horn as the destruction of the Antichrist.

          • It seems to me that Babylon is a very complicated topic in scripture. My understanding is that there is, at minimum, a female spiritual entity, a city, and possibly a nation – all referred to as ‘Babylon’ in the Bible?

            Additionally, I believe I read somewhere along the way that in the last days Babylon would consist of two groups: political and ecclesiastical. In this scenario, assuming I recall correctly, political Babylon equated to AC’s group and ecclesiastical Babylon equated to the False Prophet’s group. According to what I read, eventually – perhaps at the midpoint of the tribulation – political Babylon would turn on ecclesiastical Babylon and destroy her/it.

            I have no clue if there’s any validity to this idea, but some of the things you said in your message sounded reminiscent of that to me. I personally feel (just from reading scripture in general) that the US is Babylon, but being that I have a very long way to go with eschatology, I recognize that that doesn’t actually mean anything.

          • Hi Watchman,

            I agree with you that it’s a complicated topic! I tend to agree that Babylon is an ecclesiastical entity (cf. Rev. 17:1-6), and also an economic entity and a real city and/or nation (cf. Rev. 18).

            However, I don’t subscribe to the idea that AC’s group will control political Babylon, while the FP group would control economic Babylon. In my view, FP will tell the world to worship AC (who is primarily a political figure), and probably together will be involved in destroying Babylon. As I mentioned above, the harlot will ride on the beast’s power for a time, but when the beast no longer needs the harlot for her ecclesiastical influence, it will destroy her. In my view, that will be around the time AC demands worship of himself from everyone. The FP will be aligned with AC until the very end, when Jesus destroys them both. (cf. Rev. 19:20).

            As for the US, among other reasons, I don’t believe the US quite fits the requirement to be drunk with the blood of God’s holy people. (cf. Rev 17). Explanations I have heard are a stretch, IMHO. It does, however, for the economic requirements. I’m still looking for a city that fulfills all the requirements. Thanks!

          • Give it some time for the U.S. to fit the bill of drunk with the blood of the saints. First of all look at all the abortions. Those millions of children are in heaven. Then I personally am of the opinion that the American Christians are the Laodiceans, and that they have something “special,” as it were, planned for them to relieve them of their apostasy before they meet the Lord. We are already beginning to go down that road. Look at how Christians are starting to be treated, and with the liberal mindset becoming more and more violent in their actions, it won’t take much to start rounding Christians up and killing them saying that they are doing God a favor.

          • Connie,

            You may be right. I do indeed expect persecution to continue to rapidly increase in the U.S.. However, it is difficult for me to see these things happening within the next few years to the extent that the U.S. is drunk with the blood of the saints (i.e. wholesale abandonment of the Constitution), which it would have to be, if we assumed that Trump were the AC.

            Also, if Babylon were the US, it is not clear to me if only a city (e.g. NYC) is in view, or the entire nation. It is difficult for me to imagine a confederation of 10 nations destroying the entire U.S. in one hour, without the U.S. also retaliating and destroying the 10 nations in the process…(at least with current U.S. military capabilities). Granted, once you bring Satan’s power and authority into the picture, all bets are off.

            There are many variables in play here, and I frankly don’t feel solid enough to come down dogmatically on them yet. This thread is a mental exercise for me to explore the “what ifs” if Trump were AC, and the identity of Babylon is the most vexing issue for me currently.

          • Agreed that you can’t be dogmatic, but have to keep things open while still possibly leaning heavily in one direction based on the info presently available. One thing that you may not have considered is that you are assuming that Babylon’s present location is the only place for which she is drunk on the blood of the saints. She is guilty of the blood of the saints down through history. It’s accumulative. She merely moves her headquarters around, and at this time, I personally feel that the U.S. fits her description the best, for who else says that they sit like a queen untouched by the rest of the world? Who else has her wealth and luxuries (aside from Dubai, whom I don’t see as leading the world). The people of this nation live as the wealthiest in the world as a whole. The rest of the description fits her as well.

            I think maybe we need to think of the land of Babylon as a city/state. There is the state or nation or kingdom as it were, and then there is the headquarters or capital city from which the nation is run and her seat resides. I believe the ancient kingdoms were thought of in this way.

            As for the U.S. being destroyed and not retaliating, it would all depend on how it is done. They could blow up our own nukes on us, rather than sending some over. That would eliminate our ability to retaliate. Or maybe an EMP pulse attack would render us incapable of doing anything, because everything is done by computers these days. We have multitudes of enemies on our land already infiltrating these crucial places of military control.

            As for Trump being the AC, I know there are some people with TDS here that are certain he must be, but I don’t think he fits the bill in many ways.

            I have a whole different take on Babylon and the beast than most. Having studied the history of the two of them, and understanding that their relationship has been found in the stories of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz (who were the originals of this duo) down through Osiris, Isis, and Horus, and other “gods” who were more fact than myth, and other historical kings, etc., the history shows that she always ran the religion and he ran the politics in the ancient kingdoms, but after Christ that seemed to change. The beast seems to have disappeared until he possessed Hitler, and we know he is currently in the abyss as well, so something bound him except for when he was or will be let out. That left her without a world kingdom to control (as their kingdoms were always the world power of the day). While she infiltrated the church in the persona of Mary after Christ, as that was a good source to control the world, and she still has a lot of influence there, I don’t believe that is her religion of control anymore. And it didn’t give her the political empire she wanted. I believe Freemasonry is her religion. The Catholic church is against Freemasonry which I don’t think that would be so, if she still had her headquarters there. Plus, I believe the false prophet will be the pope that sits at that time, which makes the Catholic church under the beast’s control as he is the beast’s man. I also think Islam is his religious military arm.

            The Templars found and brought her religion back during the crusades and Freemasonry was the end result of that. Freemasonry controls many of the world leaders. It is found in every country. I believe the world headquarters for Freemasonry is located in D.C. The name of that temple is long, but it is called the Supreme Council or Mother Council of the World. Babylon’s statue sits in NYC harbor, (sculpted by a Freemason) and her statue sits on top of the Capitol in D.C. The Capitol is actually a temple to her. There is a 32 foot statue of an owl at the Bohemian Grove in CA that the top politicians, arts people, sports people, media people go worship every year, and I’m betting that that so-called dummy sacrifice is not a dummy but real child. Most people think it is Molech, because of the child sacrifice, but Molech is not an owl. The owl was the representation of Athena, just another name for Babylon.

            With the beast presently in the abyss, as Revelation tells us he is, she had to get her own political empire and America provided that for her, as it was founded by a whole lot of Freemasons. That Hitler was possessed by the beast, yet he went after Freemasons to kill them when he was in power sort of says that they are not getting along, or why would he kill her followers? Wouldn’t they be his as well if they are still a team? She has ridden him all these millennia, yet now they are at odds? And America, if Babylon, was against Hitler. This would also indicate a schism. The fact that his cronies destroy her on his behalf would seem to indicate that it is his wish, even if he doesn’t push the button himself. That seems to verify that they are not getting along and that my hypothesis may be correct. I can’t be dogmatic, but it sure fits the picture I’m seeing around me.

          • Many of the points you bring up about the historical roots of Babylon may in fact be valid ones. I haven’t researched the history well enough, but appreciate your ideas.

            Regarding the US and its role, for now, I think I’m just in a wait-and-see mode. I think it will become clearer as the identity of the AC becomes clearer. And I think the identity of the AC will be clearer when a 7 year peace covenant is made (and the construction of the 3rd temple may very well be a party of that covenant). Also, unlike many of my fellow evangelical bros and sisters, I don’t believe in a pre-trib rapture. So I believe it is quite possible that I may live to see these events unfold, and I want to be prepared.

          • Agree that an absolute positivity requires a wait and see attitude, even if things look like they lean in a particular direction. Also agreed that we will be here to see it happen. No pre-trib rapture.

          • I’ve only partially investigated this, but another person on this thread said something at one point that caused me to consider that perhaps – from a Constitution abandonment perspective – we are already further down the path than most realize.

            It appears, for example, that the NDAA, having flowed out of 9/11, gives the government the power to secretly round up and indefinitely detain even US citizens suspected of terrorism. Unless something has changed, the NDAA is still in the books.

            The Patriot Act, being another example, gives the government all kinds of intrusive powers.

            I do agree that from an anti-fundamentalist sentiment standpoint, the US is not there yet. However, in the wake of one or more of the right catalyzing events, it isn’t much of a stretch in my mind personally to think that it wouldn’t take that long to get there from where we are right now.

            Again, I’ve only partially looked into the NDAA, Patriot Act, etc., but my impression from what I have seen so far is that all of this legislation is still valid and active. I am increasingly wondering whether the skirting(s) of the Constitution necessary to enable the US to be Babylon could to at least some degree already be in place?

            In other words, maybe the Constitution doesn’t have to be abandoned to the extent that we think. And this isn’t meant to sound alarmist; it’s just an honest question I have been asking myself.

          • No doubt, I agree that the recent laws have made gov’t intrusion much more severe. I also believe that, just as 9/11 spurred on the adoption of the Patriot Act, in times of distress, people are willing to give up their freedoms for the promise of more security. As times get tougher (lawlessness increases and “the love of most grows cold”), we will see more freedoms eroded. Therefore, in short, I agree with you that we are heading down a dangerous path, and it is quite possible for that erosion to accelerate quickly, given the right catalyst events.

            However, even with these facts, it is difficult for me to predict with any confidence how near we are to the end times. It could be in a few years, or not for many years. I personally believe that, looking at the signs around us, we are nearing the end. But IMHO, the clearest sign will center, not on the US, but on Israel. Once that temple starts to be rebuilt, look out! 🙂 In fact, I’d say, once even discussion of the temple being rebuilt enters the mainstream discussion of negotiation RE Mideast peace talks, look out…. I think the other pieces to the puzzle will become clearer at that point, including whether or not Trump is AC, and who is Babylon.

          • I do agree, GB. It’s impossible to say just yet. I also agree that the temple will be a sure sign.

          • What follows is almost entirely conjecture and conspiracy theory, but it is something that I have considered regarding general timing of Daniel’s 70th week. I do not put any real stock in it and neither should anyone else. I just think it is kind of interesting.

            I have heard several pastors, theologians, expositors assert that Jesus lived for 33.5 years. I don’t know if there is a real connection here or not, but it’s interesting to me that Freemasonry’s highest degree is the 33rd.

            Some believe Christ’s true birthday is 9/11/03 BC. There could be some merit to this idea. For example, you see “IXXI” in lots of Jesuit symbolism and artifacts. Another possible example is the 9/11 terrorist event. Some apparently see it as an inversion of 9/11/03 BC (or what they believe is Christ’s real birthday), due to the fact that 9/11/2001 = 9/11/2+0+0+1 = 9/11/03.

            If you follow the Bible’s genealogies, my understanding is that the earth is approx. 6000 yrs old right now. Generally speaking, because God does things in sevens and because scripture tells us that Christ will reign for 1000 yrs after he returns, it makes sense scripturally that we are literally on the verge of Christ’s return.

            If Christ was indeed born on 9/11/03 BC and lived for ~33 years, unless I am overlooking something, this would put his return roughly at 2030 – according to this rationale. And of course, if the tribulation period is approximately 7 years in length, I suppose this would put its beginning in September of 2023. (I don’t believe Christ returns until the end.)

          • Watchman,

            I have no real facts to support or deny your hypothesis, but I think it is interesting. Thanks for sharing.

            As a side question related to Daniel’s 70th week, I have a couple questions for you or anyone who is an expert:

            1) is there any biblical reason that necessitates the 7 year peace treaty including building the temple? My understanding is that, theoretically, the two are separate concepts. The only requirement is that the temple has to be in place by the middle of the 7. Am I wrong? In other words, theoretically the temple could be in place a thousand years before the 7 year treaty.

            2) my understanding is that the 7 year treaty must be according to the lunar calendar (because that’s the same pattern as the other 69 7’s down to the exact day), not the current calendar system. What would make a western AC sign a 7 year deal according to the lunar calendar? My only thought is that the peace deal would include the temple somehow, and AC would honor the temple worship calendar ( at least till the middle of the 7), which is according to the lunar calendar.

          • I believe it’s likely that the temple is a part of the treaty and that the institution of temple sacrifice will transpire in the first half of the week.

          • Wayne and Connie both know far more than I do about end times, GB. I’m really not even qualified to answer your questions. 🙂

          • Okay, now that I have read pages 36-37 of Wayne’s book, if there is a connection with Freemasonry’s 33rd degree, I think it would most likely be Christ’s crucifixion date – April 1, 33 AD.

          • My son, out of nowhere one day years ago told me he had a “dream” that by 2035 there was going to be an end to the world. He was a child when he said this. I watched that movie 6th Sense and don’t want to be an unbeliever and dismiss my child. So, I remember all the experiences he has shared me… 3 to be exact, and just tell him wow, what an incredible dream. His 2 other experiences were more prophetic than that. He is a teenager now and in his own world, will wait and see what happens. Thought I would share as it goes in line somewhat with your thoughts.

          • Drunk with the blood of the saints could mean red wine, and not literal blood… remember Jesus turned water into wine and in the last supper asked to drink, this is my blood poured out for you… Look at the increase in drunkeness and wineries’ popularity… moms now have playdate parties where they drink wine while watching thier little ones play! The level of sins that are being normalized here is astounding… we are now seen as abnormal to think that sinful ways are wrong. That is so backwards and makes living in DC very challenging for me. I cannot leave this area until my kids are grown and it tears me apart to have to raise them in this…

        • Heavenly Jerusalem is CHRIST’s and decends from heaven NOT Carnal Jerusalem But… Mystery Babylon is actually 3 cities that sit on seven hills. ROME, JERUSALEM, MECCA. The Abrahamic Religious centers of the world. Matthew 23:37
          Verse Concepts
          “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling

          Compare-Revelation 18:24 ►
          Verse
          In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”

          Clearly this fits all 3 to a T.

          The Image of the 1st beast is a Church State and Daniel 11:37 in context isn’t talking about sexual orientation. Hint: the Statue of Liberty is a Roman goddess. The desire of women is freedom and liberty. Note the verse about no regard for the desires of women fits between two verses about the Worship of G-D or any Gawds for that matter so it is a far stretch of biblical gymnastics to claim that the little horn doesn’t like sex with women. But the Zionist evangelicals of Trumpainity don’t really read there bibles without the Zionist Dispensationalist pope Darby Secret rapture/Raptura = Harpozo lens.

          Also the Temple of Christ IS the BODY! Not a building made of stones.

          χξϚ = Strong’s G5516 – chi-xi-stigma

          Root Etymology:
          The ἄγαμος (G22)d, ἀγαθοεργέω (G14)th and an obsolete letter (4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the ἀββα (G5)th and Ἄβελ (G6)th), used as numbers

          Strong’s Definitions:
          χξϛ chx stigma, khee xee stig’-ma; the 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral:—six hundred threescore and six

          G4742
          στίγμα stígma, stig’-mah; from a primary στίζω stízō (to “stick”, i.e. prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), i.e. (figuratively) scar of service:—mark

          Lexicon :: Strong’s G22 – agamos
          Meaning = Unmarried

          Lexicon :: Strong’s G14 – agathoergeō
          Strong’s Definitions
          ἀγαθοεργέω agathoergéō, ag-ath-er-gheh’-o; from G18 and G2041; to work good:—do good

          χξϚ=?
          Christian Xς = ancient way to say Christian.

          ξ= Xi= Samek =

          = with support from the Pole Ξ

          So χξϚ according to the Greek Lexington literally means= Christian unmarried to good works without support from the cross is Marked Pierced by the beast.

          James 2:14-26 New King James Version (NKJV)

          Faith Without Works Is Dead

    • Some say jerusalem, others say a government in the original babylon, others say rome, but i say it is the usa because she fits the description and the christians who are consorting with the antichrist are the whores who are riding the beast. The usa is the one who says I will never be a widow, the USA is the richest nation on earth and the usa had interfered with other nations on more then one occasion and in the past killed many people including christians. But that is my opinion.

    • I do not think trump is the AC, he’s not perfect but I believe God is using him to fulfill prophecy. Mystery Babylon is United States, the statue of liberty is actually a statue of the queen of Babylon you can read about the statue cmons.org under symbolism

    • mystery Babylon is the catholic church..

      “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth”. (rev 17:9 kjv) Rome is called the city of 7 hills..

      And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: (rev 17:4 kjv)
      “Cardinals wear red, while non-Cardinal Bishops and Archbishops wear purple.”

      even their worship of the cracker (and thats all it is..nothing more..jesus is not in the cracker) goes all the way back to pagan babylonian sun worship..besides, doesnt the bible say we are NOT TO WORSHIP OR BOW DOWN TO ANY KIND OF IMAGES?

      “Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me”; (Exodus 20:5 kjv)

      ” Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 (KJV)
      Mary has NOTHING to do with salvation or anything else..she was the “chosen vessel” and that it is..the queen of heaven is mentioned twice in the bible..both time in reference to idol worship and the first time was to provoke the LORDS anger.

      that was just to get ya started. research this…

      pllz dont fall for one of satans biggest deceptions..”

  37. Yeah I totally agree with you that Donald Trump can’t be the Antichrist, for exact reasons you stated. Isn’t it crazy that Bush, Obama, Trump, and even losing candidates Gore, Kerry and Hillary were ALL accused of being antichrists?! I know for the fact none of them are Antichrist for the simple fact that they didn’t get 99% of the vote, like Antichrist would. Also, the fact that someone has big ego, charisma, and tries to broker middle east deal won’t make them Antichrist either: lots and lots of politicians meet that description, and only two of them would be Antichrist and false prophet. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe we live in last days and Antichrist will come. But you got to be objective and use critical thinking if you want to identify the real Antichrist.

  38. Donald as fooled a whole lot of good God fearing and business savvy folks.
    .
    Mark Twain said. “Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. ”
    I stopped a long time ago trying to convince folks that Trump as duped. Hoodwinked and bamboozled his way straight to the top spot”

  39. https://youtu.be/ZEgiTR1VC18

    Watch this clip from the left behind
    Series
    …….
    1.Trump says he could shoot someone in time square and his v
    Base would still support him

    2. Trump tells the parable of inviting a snake into your home and when he bites you..the snake simply says you knew I was a snake when you took me in.

    3. TRUMP always brags and boast about what “I will Do. And I will….”
    3.He fires or gets rid of anyone opposing him
    4.He will twist the facts and story however he wants it to be even after everyone sees it and hears it the 1st time
    5. He has long time
    And respected military leaders who are doing things against their military code of contact.
    6. Republicans who see his true nature speak out against him but almost seem to say never mind when it’s time to vote against or publicly stay true opposing him.
    7. He hand picks the media he will interact with and demonizes others
    8.my prediction; next year he will be throwing out statements hinting at him being in office a second term or for 7 more years… watch…
    9. There are Christian’s who can not see that his behavior and actions past and current are so contrary to WWJD or Christ like…

    AND 10 according to the Bible Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    • The Left Behind series is fictional and was created to make its author rich, as well as being eschatologically incorrect. I wouldn’t use it as my guide to who the antichrist is or as to how things will go down.

    • King David waged war his entire life and was a chronic womaniser, and yet was beloved of GOD. Now hold my hand and repeat after me ” praise the lord Donald”

      • David repented of his sins T-rump doesn’t feel the need to EVER ask G-D for forgiveness.. “He doesn’t bring him into that picture”

    • I think you just verified the cultist and inexplicable phenomenon of people idolizing an evil person like Donald Trump. Christians are literally turning their backs on the very tenets of Christianity and turning their backs on all we know of God by accepting, excusing, supporting, cheering, and idolizing a man as dishonest, greedy, corrupt, immoral, narcissistic, traitorous, unintelligent and mentally unstable as Trump. You truly, truly need to wake up, my friend.

    • Bush created that policy. Obama left it in place. Nobody enforced the law as they should have. Trump did enforce the law, as that is the government’s job according to Scripture “for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil”, until he signed an executive order today, so that it is no longer the law. He is not ripping children out of the arms of their mothers. Many of these children aren’t even the children of the people bringing them into the country. They are merely devices to get the people into the country. But don’t let the facts disturb your narrative.

      • Every vile word you say about these mothers and children makes you look more and more brainwashed. With your level of inhumanity I pray you’re not a mother. A good mother will do anything – ANYTHING – to protect their child, even crossing a border. Also, that tired story about another president making this law is not only tired but incorrect. Do your research. And isn’t it interesting how interested Trump followers are in “enforcing and obeying the law” yet don’t make even a squeak about all the laws and rules Trump’s broken throughout his entire, selfish, ignorant life?

      • Connie, Proverbs chapter 17 verse 15 he that justifies the wicked and he that condemns the just even they both are Abomination to the Lord

    • Donald Trump is a War Monger and a Whore Monger. He will destroy America and cause so much bloodshed.. Him having no regard for the desire of women is a myth. DONALD TRUMP IS THE ANTICHRIST.
      Watch utube videos by Brother James Keys

      • I too believe he is the Antichrist, As far as having no regard for the desire of women, does not mean he is gay . He doesn’t respect women. What other President in the history of our Country, has had women come out in droves the day after his swearing in Office. There is enmity between him and the woman. That was prophesied in Genesis between Eve and the serpent.Yes, Brother James Keys is right on.

      • Having ‘NO regard for Women,” could also mean, he has zero respect for them and we all know how trump feels about women, calling them “horseface” and such…… at least that’s how I interpret it.

    • Yep….
      https://youtu.be/ZEgiTR1VC18

      Watch this clip from the left behind
      Series
      …….
      1.Trump says he could shoot someone in time square and his v
      Base would still support him

      2. Trump tells the parable of inviting a snake into your home and when he bites you..the snake simply says you knew I was a snake when you took me in.

      3. TRUMP always brags and boast about what “I will Do. And I will….”
      3.He fires or gets rid of anyone opposing him
      4.He will twist the facts and story however he wants it to be even after everyone sees it and hears it the 1st time
      5. He has long time
      And respected military leaders who are doing things against their military code of contact.
      6. Republicans who see his true nature speak out against him but almost seem to say never mind when it’s time to vote against or publicly stay true opposing him.
      7. He hand picks the media he will interact with and demonizes others
      8.my prediction; next year he will be throwing out statements hinting at him being in office a second term or for 7 more years… watch…
      9. There are Christian’s who can not see that his behavior and actions past and current are so contrary to WWJD or Christ like…

      AND 10 according to the Bible Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

  40. This is a pointless article and a waste or my time reading it because the prophecy is clear that President Trump’s role will be the head of the NWO in which every Nation succumbs to only one leader. After this happens, the Anti-Christ shall ruse up from the Middle East and announce himself. Very clear…

  41. For those of you who are new, I believe with certainty that Trump is the Antichrist and documented it in a book before the 2016 elections. The headlines in the news continue to support my conclusions. Here are just a few.

    For starters, we have the meeting between Trump and Kim Sung Un. Pay close attention to the body language of both leaders (nobody’s talking about this). Watch their eyes. Pay close attention to Kim’s facial expression and sweat. He either looks ill or terrified. I mention in my book how Trump enters into a meeting with adversaries and comes out as “pals.” https://youtu.be/5fgwTlGslLM

    Here is Time Magazine’s latest cover as Trump as “King.” http://time.com/magazine/us/5304193/june-18th-2018-vol-191-no-23-u-s/

    And finally, Bob Corker referring to his fellow Republicans as the cult of Trump. https://youtu.be/3o8eIsELJWw

  42. I only read a part of this, but the desire of women is talking about the so called “goddess” Diana from Ephesians. The passage is not literally talking about the desire of women.

    • I’m wondering if that verse might ultimately be conveying the idea that Antichrist will not have any regard or respect for women.

      • the desire of most of the catholic women is the virgin mary. Catholics ignorantly worships and venerates mary through the rosary. If the catholics are about 1.5billion in number, this number is so big to be ignored by the antichrist in including them in his grand scheme of deception.
        The context of the verses is about gods so the object of the desire of women is their god.

      • If the antichrist is a movement or religion that has no regard for women, might we be able to posit that Islam is AC? It is as said in the bible any no believer in Christ is anti-christ and Islam is vehemently against Christ, and women are objects. Just thought I would throw it out there… food for thought.

  43. I sincerely believe that we are entering the period 2 Thess 2 calls, “The Apostasy”. I believe the falling away is not just a falling away of Christian doctrine, or even as my book suggests, political order, but that it is even more fundamental than that. It is a falling away of truth itself.

    For all of you that believe that Fox News is practically a mouthpiece for God Himself, I encourage you to watch this clip.
    https://youtu.be/BKuat8VJxq8

  44. I had what I believe is an enlightening realization today. In my previous post, I discussed this abandonment of truth. People WILL NOT CONSIDER FACTS ANYMORE.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 says, “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition”

    The “falling away” means “rebellion, revolt, departure” In my book, I suggested it could be pointing to the “rebellion” that was taking place in government. I was not dogmatic.

    Traditionally, the falling away – Greek apostasia (apostasy) was thought to mean a departure of the Christian faith, either through the rapture or just an erosion of belief and doctrine.

    I am now believing that the definition is much more fundamental — one that encompasses ALL the above. THE FALLING AWAY IS A FALLING AWAY OF TRUTH ITSELF.

    I believe this was hinted at by Pilot ( a type of antichrist) when he asked Jesus, “What is truth?”

    From Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance: Feminine of the same as apostasion; defection from truth (properly, the state) (“apostasy”) — falling away, forsake.

    Are we already in the falling away? Is it right around the corner? Clearly, truth is being maligned…no more than by our president.

    http://time.com/4709920/donald-trump-truth-time-cover/

  45. I recently had lunch with a Christian brother. He asked me a question regarding Trump. I answered, supplying evidence from reports in the news media. My friend basically responded by stating that the media has been corrupted and can no longer be trusted. He implied that Trump’s maneuvers to squelch the freedom of the press was a good thing because, after all, “We can get the facts through Trump’s tweets and rallies.” I reminded him that that was the behavior of every dictator of the past. It’s called propaganda.

    A CNN clip reminded me of our past talk, so I sent him this email. (below)

    I believe Trump has virtually succeeded in convincing his base that nothing the media reports has any merit (Only exceptions being Fox and conservative radio, of course.) Trump admitted to Lesley Stahl that discrediting the media is one of his tactics.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lesley-stahl-donald-trump-said-attacking-press-to-discredit-negative-stories/

    This ironically leaves the press with similar challenges I’ve had with some concerning my book — namely — if what I (or the media) say or report falls on deaf ears, how will people ever know the truth? If something is ruled out as false from the get-go because of bias or whatever, how do you get people to listen and consider what you have to say?

    Every day, Trump continues to do and say the most outlandish things. But there is a very large segment of society that simply won’t hear it because conservative radio and Fox News ignores it and those who DO report it can’t be trusted. It’s as if half the nation has adopted a conspiracy-centered epistemology. Every day, people on the news are left stunned and bewildered by what is happening. But the folks on the Right (including many Evangelicals) will not consider a word of it because they think it’s all part of this universal deep-state conspiracy to overthrow Trump and replace him with some Obama clone. People have become paranoid on a mass scale.

    As with all conspiracies, there is always an element of truth. But in the process, real and true facts are simply discarded as false or unimportant as they’re systematically thrown out with the baby’s bath water. Reporting is suspect by mere reason of guilt by association. If it’s on CNN, it’s automatically false because it’s CNN.

    This should be a grave concern to anybody whose brain is still firing. We have become a nation that only preaches to the choir (the base of the person speaking) — NOBODY ELSE WILL LISTEN OR EVEN CONSIDER LISTENING.

    This happens on both sides of the aisle. Hannity often says, “Journalism is dead.” What he’ll never acknowledge is that he was part and parcel to its murder.

    A clip of some of Trump’s antics — probably false because the source is CNN.

    https://youtu.be/FVeR-tMp890

    • I have concluded that Trump is the AC as well. My back story is super crazy and non religious. I have never studied the Bible in an organized way and my details on names events etc. are subpar. I did read enough over the years that I am confident of any assertion I have in regard to DT. When he was elected I cried. If you knew me you would know that crying for me takes something catastrophic and well here we are and that was BEORE everything that happened since. I believe those tears came from something predestined/prewritten in my heart. I didn’t understand it then but it’s all coming together now. I’ve talked with my atheist (he’s getting there) husband about it. He calmly takes it all in and sometimes can be the best person to talk to about it because he isn’t so enthralled. He asked me a very simple question and I I didn’t know what to say because I guess I haven’t ever really thought about it. But he said so – what now?

      • Hi Ariana. Your story really intrigues me. I’m not sure where you are presently with the whole “God thing”, but it sounds like He is getting you and your husband’s attention. I would LOVE to send you a complimentary copy of my book. It ties Trump to the Word of God. If you would like a copy (or 2), just email me: [email protected]
        There is also a contact section at the bottom of my website: RiseoftheLittleHorn.com
        Either one works. I just need an address from you and I’ll have Amazon send it directly.

        • Thank you for the kind gesture but I will purchase it through amazon! I have to admit that I saw the book a while ago and didn’t think to buy it until I saw your comments here. You know your stuff. Its rare anymore!

          Also, thank you for your reply! I wanted to mention Brother James Key on YouTube. He is right on track with all of this as well! He has a new video every other day or so and he’s helped me understand specifics.

          In regard to where I stand with God, I do not go to church. I read the Bible for myself. I try and follow the words of Jesus in all of my actions. That’s all I know. Thank you again for your reply!

  46. I remember back to one of my first exchanges on this blog with my brother, Wayne. It was over whether Trump would ever be the kind of man that would order people to worship him. In my response, I stated that Trump already seeks worship, hence these “campaign” rallies he continues to have “post” campaign. I stated as much in my book that there were already a large number of people that worship Donald Trump. (That was back in 2016.)

    Well….here we are. Jerusalem is practically turning into “Trump town” with features of Trump Train, Trump Square, a minted Trump Coin, signs all over Jerusalem saying, “Make Israel Great Again.” — not to mention the embassy celebration on May 14th where Trump was practically celebrated as Israel’s next Messiah.

    And now, enter our new “Christian” brother on this blog — ICE. He has systematically gone through the comments in this blog and responded to guests, calling me:
    — a liberal
    — some one who posts garbage
    — a believer of any “fake” network news clip
    — one who “stirs up trouble”
    — full of lies
    — full of blasphemy
    — evil
    — an Antichrist

    If you look at the above list, this is not unlike the very accusations that were brought against Christ and the Apostles. I believe Jesus was speaking a dual-prophecy when He said the words, “the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.” I time is soon coming when men with power will throw men as myself in prison. I just pray the rapture occurs before such time. I believe that men like ICE demonstrate the kind of twisted zeal that could eventually develop into such an unfettered devotion towards Donald Trump. I am not accusing him of that mindset presently. But what if the stakes were raised? What if men like myself were seen as a threat to global peace and security. Things can change and will change — very quickly. As I said, “ICE”, you are just making my point. When the truth is on your side, the opposing side just needs to open their mouth. I think it is fundamentally clear that ICE’s accusations are all , in and of themselves, LIES.

    A final note: A shout of thanks to Wayne for the “warning” to ICE. My thought is this: Don’t block the guy. HE’S MAKING MY CASE!!

  47. I think it is fair to say that “Watchman” or “Jonathan Dane” could be the AntiChrist. I have never seen anybody post so much garbage. Also, it appears they believe any clip that they see on whatever network or news source. They are both full of blasphemy and lies. It’s amazing how Obama fit the full description of the AC, not Trump, and they are both on here talking Trump. Trump has done more good for Christians than any other president.

  48. If you call slapping women in the vag*na and beating up former wives a love of Women then you need to see a doctor. I don’t believe Donald Trump is the antichrist but he is a phony as a religious man. Still an Illuminati puppet for the Vatican. Just a shameless script reading satanic puppet.

  49. Aside for a few holdouts, I’m noticing that there is less refutation of Trump=AC on here. Wonder why that is. (I’m not saying that rhetorically. I truly wonder why that is.) Is it possible that events in the world seem to be heading that way and the naysayers are taking more of a “wait and see” posture? Perhaps — perhaps not.

    Anyway…It’s pretty fair to assume that most on here believe that the Antichrist will have a direct connection to the third temple and perhaps even be the one to build it. Given that reality, this Google search for the words, [rabbi trump third temple 2018] I find to be fascinating. What are Rabbis in Israel saying concerning Trump?
    https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS687US687&ei=CaMJW7-IA8HX5gKHn5ngBg&q=rabbi+trump+third+temple+2018&oq=rabbi+trump+third+temple+2018&gs_l=psy-ab.3…2446.4553.0.5200.5.5.0.0.0.0.163.766.0j5.5.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.3.457…33i21k1j33i160k1.0.hmoDIkV_A_U

    • I don’t believe Trump is the anti-Christ but he is most certainly anti-Christ. If you love me, you will follow my commandments-certainly not Trump. Satan may be the father of lies, but Trump is the President of lies. I could see him being either Peter denying Christ or being Judas betraying Christ. I am constantly amazed how people who support him can see he is a pompous a– yet still support him. I don’t recall Jesus ever separating one’s actions from one’s morality. But his so called followers do. And Frank Schaeffer is right. Trump doesn’t care about federal pro-life judges or the capital of Israel being in Jerusalem. He’s only doing it to get the votes of people who support Jeffress, Graham, Dobson, etc and their eschatological vision of the world. I believe they made a deal that Trump could be as immoral as he is as long as he went along with what they wanted. In other words, these men sold their soul for power. Jesus would have a field day with them.

    • Mike, I’m not saying Trump is AC but you sort of have to balance what you’re looking at along with other things about Trump that you’ve already seen and are still seeing.

      Trump said he’d never asked for forgiveness. He wants to build a wall to keep out the needy, he has recently referred to them as animals, and he has shown extreme disrespect towards women. These are just a few things among many that could be listed. There is nothing humble about Trump.

      Scripture says to test every spirit; it says that you will know believers by their fruit and that the apostate church will have a form of godliness but ultimately deny God’s power. We also know from scripture that Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

      Based on all of these things, do you think it is possible AC will be a person that prays? I’m just asking if you think that’s possible, I’m NOT saying Trump is AC.

      • Can we at least get our facts straight and be honest about what is really done and said? Think of him what you want, but let’s at least get the facts right. Trump does not want a wall to keep out the needy. He wants to build a wall to keep out illegals and criminals. Legals are welcome. He did not say the needy or immigrants were animals. He said that MS-13 were animals, and they are. They rape, kill, dismember and do all sorts of unspeakable things to people. If that is not an animal, what is?

        • Do you feel, from a Christian perspective, that MS-13 are animals rather than humans? I think his phrasing was ambiguous at best, but even if you want to say that he was talking only about MS-13, from a Christian standpoint, would you say that they aren’t people but animals?

          • It is not just me saying this “IF I want to say” so. It is the truth. He was only talking about MS-13. Anyone who heard the entire clip will say that. Did you watch the entire clip of the interview when he said that about the MS-13? Most media will not show the entire thing, because it was clear from the context that he was referring only to MS-13. You need to check other news sources.

            And yes, even from a Christian standpoint, I think they are behaving like animals. What would you call it? No anywhere near decent human being would act in this totally abominable way, much less merely as an initiation into a gang. Can they be redeemed? Yes, if they accept the Lord, but that does not negate the behavior they are manifesting now. Would you feel any different about them being animalistic if they not only murdered, but raped, dismembered and violated in every imaginable way your family? These debauched, depraved, satanic people do not deserve to be called humans at this time. If they repent, that is different. For now this is what God says about them, if they remain in their unrepentant state. They are abominable, murderers, and whoremongers, and no doubt they worship Satan which makes them idolaters. God even calls people like this dogs, but maybe you are right. Maybe we shouldn’t insult the animals by calling them animals. Dogs are loving, gentle creatures for the most part. Perhaps a better appellation would have been to call them satanic, for that is what they presently are doing, acting like Satan. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

          • Hey Connie, mind if I butt in? (LOL — sorry, I just know you and I are going to end up friends.)

            I agree with you your observation. But Watchman has the proper reaction. Are these “people” acting like animals? Yes, they are. But less we become too confident in our own “humanity”, we would do well to remember the phrase accredited to John Bradford, “There, but by the grace of God, go I.”

            The Apostle Paul says, “neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

            — You say, “If they repent, that is different.”
            — God says, “While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
            — You say, “Maybe we shouldn’t insult the animals by calling them animals.”
            — Christ says, “Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them…If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that.”

            Connie, I speak only for myself. If it weren’t for the precious grace of God, saving me from my wretched self and the punishment that self deserves, I would be the worst of animals. Aside from the common grace of God that extends to ALL MEN – including the unregenerate, to be beast-like IS our human nature. That includes you, Connie.

            Want to see into the near future? Look to MS-13. They’re behavior will soon become commonplace.

          • I agree with what you put above, Jonathan. I also think it’s worth remembering what Jesus says in Matthew 24:12-13 about love growing cold. It’s clear to me that believers are going to have to really guard against this going forward.

            (And, Connie, I do understand why you feel the way you do about MS-13. I’m not saying I can’t relate; I definitely can.)

            I listened to the following sermon by Alistair Begg a couple of days ago and thought it was really good. It ties in to all of this as well, in my opinion, but it’s more from the perspective of believers’ involvement in politics in general. Begg does a good job of articulating the trap that I feel I have personally been a part of for far too long in this sermon.

            We’re all going to have to negotiate the waters ahead very carefully, I think, if our aim is to win as many to Christ as possible. I’m still trying to understand exactly how to do that myself. It definitely isn’t easy.

        • I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me trustworthy, appointing me to his service. Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

          Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

  50. I think I can prove you wrong about evidence against Trump being the Antichrist. Here they are:

    + SUPER POPULAR VS SUPER POLARIZING — You conclude Trump cannot be viewed as a Messianic Figure. But just wait until he solves the Korean and Iranian nuke problem. Then he will get the Nobel Peace Prize which they instead gave to Obama.

    + THE DESIRE OF WOMEN — You conclude that Daniel 11:37 is interpreted as the Antichrist not desiring women. But you havfe mistranslated that verse. Check the online Bible for all translations and you will see that verse refers to the Antichrist not desiring “the god” that women love by exhalting himself above all “gods”.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Daniel%2011:37

    + THE PEAK OF ARROGANCE — You conclude that 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 is interpreted as the Antichrist literally sitting in the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem asking to be worshipped as God. But in the Book of Revelation, the dream symbol interpretation of the “New” Jerusalem is that of a Temple. Trump is also the perfect dream archetype of the worldly businessman — an antichrist. Having Trump’s picture hanging in the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem for the first time in world history could be a fulfillment of this prophecy.

    + A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF CHARISMA — You conclude that Trump is no Hitler. But you forget that before Hitler started World War II and killing Jews, through the force of his own personality, Hitler created the “German economic miracle” by vastly increasing the military and government infrastructure spending. This is something Trump wants to do.

    + THE ULTIMATE GLOBALIST — You conclude Trump is no globalist; but in an economic sense, you are wrong. Globalism is really socialism and centralized government. Trump, like Hitler, is a nationalist. But what makes Trump the ulimate globalist is because he is the ultimate Capitalist. In fact, the American dollar and the American economic system virtually runs the world and Trump is at the very Head of it. The Russian economy is the size of the State of Maryland. China cannot survive without us. This is why capitalism rules the world now that communism is virtually gone.

    + THE ABILITY TO DEFEAT HIS STRONGEST OPPONENTS — You need to update this article. Trump is on the way to ending the Korean War, redoing the Iranian nuke deal, destroying ISIS in the Middle East, etc.

    So, if you add what yopu wrote supporting Trump as the Antichrist, you have a great article supporting him as the Antichrist.

  51. THE DOMINO EFFECT

    We’ve all played dominoes — no, not the game, we’ve all stacked them side-by-side in a long row to watch them tumble over. I’ve said it before, I’m no writer. This is new territory for me. What I’ve learned is that for a book to succeed, it needs a domino effect. In order for dominoes to work properly, they need to be spaced at just the right proximity to each other. If they’re too close, there’s not enough momentum and if they’re too far apart, the domino falls without transferring the force onto the next domino. Unfortunately, the second scenario is what’s happening with my book.

    I’ve been bustin’ my ass trying to create some kind of momentum. Here’s the problem. For starters, the first domino doesn’t want to tip — it’s too heavy. And when it does, the space between it and the next domino is too vast — the momentum stops before reaching the next domino – the next person. If I were “marketing” this book as some kind of novel, perhaps people would be interested. But I’m not. That’s the problem. If I told people it was made up, they’d “buy it.” At this point, there is too much energy involved in tipping one domino to create a domino effect. Hence, the book lays dormant.

    If I manage to convince one person to read the book, I’m overjoyed. But that is a tall order. Not only that, a domino effect requires that that same person, in turn, does the same for another person, and they another, and another. But that requires those “converts” to be as invested into this “idea” as am I. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case. If a domino tips, it typically falls without touching the next domino.

    I am a strong believer in God’s sovereignty. I was under no false expectation when I wrote this book. I realized that I likely may not be here to enjoy the fruit of my endeavors. I do believe God will use this work — somehow. But I may not be here to see it. Think about it — if I’m right — Trump needs to ascend. And if the book takes off, how would that happen? Ironically, the book almost “prophesies” its own failure – kind of a builtin sabotage. It must fail. If it succeeds, it sabotages its own truthfulness. And if it’s true, it sabotages its own success. My only hope is that before the Rapture, some event may occur that will turn the tide, allowing an open door for the book to prosper. Beyond that, I will have to be content with any success being viewed from heaven (post-rapture). And that’s okay…not my first choice…but God knows what He’s doin’.

    Here’s the bottom line: 99% of people do not want to even consider it. Of that 1%, most are not invested enough to tip over the next domino. As long as that is the case, the book will sit under the radar. And there is not a d*mn thing I can do about it. My late father once told me, “If it proves too much, it proves nothing.” Ironically, he was the one who taught me about the Antichrist. If he were alive today, he’d be a domino tipper.

    I don’t know why I left this comment. It’s just a bunch of stream of consciousness. (Probably one of those comments I’ll reread tomorrow and ask, “Why did you leave that?”). I’m just thinking out loud.

    Curious your thoughts. Part of this results from my plans to send out 200 books to various prophecy teachers worldwide — knowing that I will not hear back from 199 of them. It is what it is.

    Pray for me. Discerning how to proceed and if whether doing so is an act of futility.

  52. All politicians lie…but so what? Is there something exceptional about Donald Trump? That’s the question. James Comey recently said that the man is “untethered from the truth” and is “morally unfit to serve.” Yet, as Watchman and others have recently indicated, it is undeniable that “something” is happening. Now former Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson is saying this: https://youtu.be/nkJ5-jspPd4
    One of the fundamental requirements for the Antichrist is being “untethered from the truth.” It’s one of his most common characteristics in the Bible.

  53. Dear naysayers — so, here we are. With practically a wave of some “tweets”, Trump virtually brings an end to the nearly 70-year Korean War. And now — on the 70th anniversary of the formation of the state of Israel, we have this: https://youtu.be/MISVkrFAiFk

    Oh….but there’s nothing to see here, folks. This is all just coincidence. (And Mount Rushmore is a product of wind erosion.)

    At some point, the elephant is going to need a bigger room.

    • I never thought I would say it but I am beginning to believe that you could be right about what you are claiming Jonathan. Did you see new coin for Trump? It has Trump/Cyrus image on front with rebuilt 3rd temple and dove image on back. I think they were calling Trump “Donald the Dove” as nickname before election if I recall correctly.

      • Yes, Israeli — Trump/Cyrus coin, Trump train, Trump square, Trump city. Today that had “Make Israel great again” signs all over Jerusalem streets. Netanyahu made numerous historic Temple references followed by a reference to a Israeli owned temple mount. The prophetic references in today’s ceremony were blatant. There was a Messiah reference that led right into a reference to Trump.

        Thrilling time to live. (Naysayers must be on vacation.)

        • I hope they are not in vacation in Hawaii. I am very concerned this volcano is going to be a big one. I have been praying for those people there.

        • Wow. That is a very interesting video Jonathan. Now I know why they called him by that nickname before the election. Unbelievable, very unbelievable.

          • Hey Watchman, yes…I remember that clip. It is interesting that it was published just one week before I realized who Trump was. I also remember a time just before that realization in March, having a conversation with my lovely wife and asking her, “What’s happening? Something isn’t right.” I talk about this in the book. Here’s an excerpt:

            When Trump got into the weeds with Megyn Kelly during the initial Republican debate, I sensed that he was an exceptionally proud and arrogant man. I went on my own campaign against him; making phone calls, writing emails, calling news agencies and talk shows, posting madly to Facebook―whatever I could do to try to stop a really bad person from wrecking the Republican Party and damaging the nation. NeverTrump was my obsession. It was merely political for me. Yet―even then―something else was bothering me.

            We all watched in amazement as a seemingly psychologically unbalanced man ran for the highest office in the world; doing and saying outrageous things that would have sunk the career of any other politician. He was slanderous, mean-spirited, obnoxious, reactionary, puerile, vengeful, crude and distasteful; attacking and mischaracterizing his opponents; all in the name of “political correctness.” Concerned parents were forced to screen the debates for their children because this petulant “man” found it necessary to boast about the size of his penis, like some third-grade child who had just discovered he had one. His rhetoric lacked any true principle. He single-handedly changed the essence of the political conversation from real issues to petty and obsessive personal attacks. Just when we thought he could stoop no lower, Trump dug the gutter down one more level. Much of what came out of his mouth made him sound like some insecure dude in a bar spewing off about just how incredible he was.

            As mind-numbing as this demagogue behaved, that was not what shocked me the most. It was, rather, the public acceptance and justification of such behavior―the response he got from so many people. This astounded me. Something was not right. I do not mean that in the sense of some moral or civil deficit―be it personal or collective. I mean not right, in terms of the laws of nature and rationality. A phenomenon seemed to be occurring outside these laws. Oh sure, all the pundits gave it their best attempt at analysis with oft repeated phrases like: “People are angry.” “This is Obama’s fault.” “People are fed up with the establishment in Washington.” These phrases were repeated and recycled, ad nauseum. But they did little towards actually explaining anything.

            Something was happening outside of the machine; something far less explainable. People were acting as if they were under some kind of spell. This effect was not limited to “the uneducated people”―you know―the ones Donald Trump says he loves. Intelligent people like Chris Christie, Ben Carson, and Newt Gingrich, as well as people in the media, seemed to be losing discernment, or at least appeared unaffected by things occurring right under their noses. Reasonable, intelligent people, critical of Donald Trump, would enter private meetings with him as opponents and exit as good buddies. Suddenly, they understood him. After Melania Trump’s RNC speech, even Karl Rove got in on the act, commenting that her speech was “warm and authentic.” That is, aside from the parts she plagiarized from Michelle Obama’s 2008 convention speech.

            (end of quote)

            I sincerely believe that we are seeing the beginnings of delusion in 2 Thess 2:11. What is strange about the present delusion is that it appears to be a segment of believers that are deluded. I touched on this with “Brez.” Evangelicals seemed to have set aside their “reason” for “emotion.” It has become political a “win, no matter the cost” narrative.

            I am finding the same phenomenon taking place concerning my book. People simply refuse to consider the possibility of my conclusions. What reasoned arguments are offered against it are easily dismissed. Most offer no arguments at all, but simply assert things such as, “We (you) can’t know…” Another line of argument is simply to attack my “person” in the form of ad hominem. I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve got a way to go with Christ-like humility and communication, but to dismiss my conclusions outright based on my “delivery” is another form of emotionalism. I strongly suspect that many on this blog who make such emotional appeals do so because they are part of the “tribe of Trump.” Most are frankly ardent Trump supporters, caught up in this phenomenon. I believe at some point (likely in Trump’s second term) these folks’ eyes will open and they will turn on Trump. This “betrayal” of Trump will be what will later fuel the Antichrist persecution of the saints. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/544611347255013376?lang=en

          • We’ve been on similar paths, Jonathan. Truly amazing.

            I have a long way to go with Christ-like humility, too, and I don’t think it helps to be totally convinced that you have an unbelievably important message to communicate – only to be continuously rejected right out of the gate regardless of how carefully you present or arrange your words.

            I’m not encouraging antagonistic behavior on anyone’s part, don’t get me wrong, but for what it’s worth, your behavior was actually a selling point for me regarding your book. I ultimately concluded it would be irresponsible to dismiss your assertions because of your communication, if the argument was that you were only interested in selling your book. That didn’t really add up, lol.

            So, I have ordered your book and am going to give it a serious, open-minded read. I see no harm in doing that. Plus, if I’m honest, I already think you could be on to something. It’s virtually impossible to deny that something is happening with Trump and the alliances that have been forming, truth be told. The only question is: what exactly?

            I don’t even need to believe that Trump is AC to see the incredible havoc he’s already wreaking in the name of Christ, however, and that’s what infuriates me most. That and the fact that I’ve silently watched it unfold for almost a year (or however long it has been) with a growing feeling inside of me that something is very, very wrong.

            Anyway, I realize you got off on the wrong foot with many of the people on this site but I do understand first-hand how easily that can happen. I know there are a lot of people in here that do care about Christ and what’s true more than they do about politics in the final analysis. Not only that, but many have also experienced similar types of rejection while trying to convey messages of their own.

            Therefore, my hope is that we can all forgive past differences (we’re Christians, after all), stop being antagonistic toward each other, and work together for the edification of the entire body.

            I look forward to reading your book!

          • Watchman, your words are wise and humbling, especially the last two paragraphs. Right on. Thank you

            Glad you are reading the book. No doubt, you will give a straight-up opinion on its interior. I would expect no less.

          • Jonathan you are still seeing Trump wrongly. You are taking 1 trait – pride – and running with Trump is the AC stuff. Many people like Cyrus and Neb had pride yet God used them to protect God’s people. You look at pride but you don’t look deeper. The deeper understanding asks is Trump for individual rights or for increased/centralization of government rights? The AC consolidates powder and eliminates personal freedom. The 20th century oppressive governments were socialist governments. Trump hates socialism. You are not looking deeper at the situation. Even if Trump brings peace does not mean he is AC. The AC rises up the peace agreement. Meanwhile Trump is already risen to power. You need to look to Greece/Macedonia politics. There’s some satanic stuff going on there and most likely the AC rises from there. You are totally wrong about Trump. Check this video out – released 1 month before the 2016 election! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzuxTEq-plE&t=1833s

          • Hey Mike, I respect your zeal. I’m not going to go into a lengthy back-and-forth as before, not because I don’t think it’s important, but only because I believe it is unfair to make me do the work twice when I have already done the work in my book. My suggestion is to read my book to see if your accusation that I am “only taking 1 trait and running with it” (and also if my lack of “looking deeply into the matter”) holds any weight. My gosh, my very first comment alone on here (among dozens of others on this forum) lists off approximately 100 traits that coincide between Trump and the AC! So your accusation is simply untrue. Now….if you want to say that the specific evils I point out all boil down to “pride,” that’s a reasonable argument to make. My rebuttal would be that such is the case FOR ALL SIN and evil men because all sin originates from pride. It was pride that led to the fall of Lucifer.

            Like I said, read my book so you can really know what evidence I have to present (or more accurately “had” prior to the election). From there, we can have a more reasonable and intelligent discussion. If you don’t want to spend the money, I’ll send you one. If you don’t to want to make the investment of time, I only conclude that it is you that is shallow in this matter, not I.

  54. Right on Cue:
    President Donald Trump took the podium at the NRA convention on May 4 amid massive applause, thanked NRA leadership and the “American patriots of the NRA,” then launched into a speech reaffirming that our natural rights originate in God.

    This is something the AC would never do.

      • The AC gets rid of all religions and establish his own. Trump is not the AC. Officer, you got the wrong guy!

    • Mike, that’s the sort of thinking that could get you in trouble. Unless the Bible is explicit about something I would never say never. I understand why you’d say that and I’m not trying to criticize (we’re all at different stages in this learning process) but I think there will be multiple layers of deception at work when the AC shows up. He might make a big fuss and get people’s attention with his left hand only to be making his real move with his right. It’s good to think about an issue one way and then flip it inside out and think about it another way before making a determination like that. And even then, I probably wouldn’t say never.

  55. Thanks for the article. I did notice that there are many opinions that start off with: “I don’t think”. That is fair, given that your opinion is clearly stated as: “I don’t think Trump is the AC”. My own opinion is: we’ll see, maybe, maybe not the antichrist, but definitely will watch as things are still evolving. Trump sentiment is still evolving, here in the states and world wide. Trump is an experiment that has not yet revealed what it will be. Trump does serve the god of Mammon. In my opinion, Trump’s loyalty is to himself and it it’s fair to have an opinion.

      • Jonathon. What are your thoughts on the whole Qanon phenomenon and how it pertains to your idea that Trump is the AC. I lurk on the Q forums where people are discussing these things and I am intrigued about what is going on with NK, Iran, the Deepstate, etc. all in the background with supposedly Trump & Mil Intel (Q team) doing major OPs in the background. The Q drops are seemingly accurate as time goes on, but oddly it gives me a bit of the creeps. If you are aware of this you will know that indeed some pretty bold things are going on, but I can’t tell if its awesome (my patriot side) or ominous (my Christian beliefs). I’ll check your book out, but wanted you input with this.

        • Hi T.E.

          This is one of those occasions where one is tempted to provide a “smart-sounding” answer, when in reality, they don’t have a clue. (Such is the case with myself.) I have heard of Qanon “Q”, but little more. It is likely either a fascinating look into deep political secrets or a brilliant hoax. I remember commenting on a YT video from someone who was way into Q. I honestly can’t remember what the gist of my comment specifically regarded. Is there something there? Perhaps. Like every other conspiracy, it’s likely a mix of truth and error. The tough part is sorting out one from the other. The Bible warns us not to get into endless disputes over words and genealogies, etc. My policy is this. Before we obsess ourselves into the arcane mysteries, let us demonstrate a thorough grasp and understanding of what God has plainly said in His Word. That should be our starting point. So many who are deeply enmeshed into the “underworld” are in fact, ignorant of the Bible. Take Gematria. So many Christians are obsessed with numeral calculations using Gematria, not realizing that nowhere does the Bible condone the use of a practice that, in truth, comes from the Occult.

          Hope that helps. Let me know what you think of the book. You can email at [email protected]

          Jonathan

    • I’m not saying he’s AC, but you might say Trump revealed what he would be quite clearly before he was even elected.

      The clip of him talking about grabbing women by the *****, him making fun of the mentally handicapped reporter, the gaggle of false teachers that prayed him into office, the time that he said he’d never asked for forgiveness, and on and on it goes. Yet, rather than abstaining for voting, we just couldn’t help ourselves.

      We had to get in there and pick the ‘least bad’ candidate. And now…well, now we’re his biggest fans.

      I dunno, something just doesn’t seem right to me. Maybe we’re the real Pharisees – thinking we’re going to use save the world from evil through Republican politics and a degenerate sleazeball like Trump.

      Here’s a question: how many ominous characteristics would both candidates need to exhibit in order to stop you – a person whose identity should be inextricably linked to Christ – from voting at all? Is there a maximum number, or do you just consider it your duty to attach Christ’s name to best of the worst?

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump was AC. I don’t know if he is, but I certainly wouldn’t be surprised. In some ways I actually kind of hope he is. We definitely deserve it.

  56. Hey folks,

    I recently had a gentleman named “Bob” who emailed me. I replied to your email but for some reason, I got a “failure to deliver” auto-return message. Just wanted to let you know that I am not ignoring you. I’ll try again later.

  57. THE RESPONSE FROM THE NAYSAYERS

    It has been nearly a month since my first post. Recall, I pasted a lengthy excerpt from my book — a detailed profile of the Antichrist from Scripture that also matches the profile of our current president, Donald Trump; one that contains some 100 qualities showing that both persons are one and the same. These matches are not the conspiracy-driven and far-fetched connecting of dots associated with the “Obama is the AC” drivel on YouTube, but are rather direct and explicit biblical connections. Granted, some more than others.

    The response received from you naysayers is insightful. Did you take me to task using biblical exegesis? Were there any replies suggesting that any of those 100 qualities does not match either the biblical picture of the AC or Donald Trump? THERE WAS NOTHING!

    Contrarily, I received what amounted to ad hominem attacks on my character. This continued ad nauseum throughout this thread. I repeat, THERE WAS NOT ONE PERSON THAT TOOK ME TO TASK FROM THE SCRIPTURES. Even the host, Wayne Croley, was silent regarding my excerpt.

    Conversely, I showed Wayne’s article to be faulty using the very thing found wanting in examining me — an exegesis of Scripture. What were the responses regarding my critique of Wayne? — for the most part, more attacks on my character. In fairness and to his credit, this did not come from Wayne.

    Ad hominem is considered a logical fallacy. It is Latin for “against the man.” It essentially says, “You can’t be right because you are a bad person.” The fallaciousness of ad hominem can be demonstrated with a single question: If a really bad man like a Charles Manson tells us to love our mothers, should we hate our mothers because Manson is a bad man?

    Essentially, most of the replies on this blog can be summed up accordingly: I must be wrong because I am an arrogant and boastful self-promoter. Yet, in point of fact, I have said nothing in regards to the “greatness of myself,” but have only tried to communicate the importance and uniqueness of this book. Logically, any respectable critique can only follow a fair examination of its contents.

    • You are not wrong because you are arrogant. Your words are falling on deaf ears because you are arrogant. From the heart springs speech Luke 6:45, Matt. 12:33-37 (since you requested a verse) Your arrogance and disdain for your brothers and sisters in Christ turn your words to noise- why should anyone excert any energy in disputing/listening to noise? You may find how Jesus interacted with people enlightening- He was merciful, free of disdain- He was our Creator in the flesh- yet He still refrained from speaking down to anyone. Do you think that may be because He knows arrogance isn’t responded to well? Maybe it might have turned His words to noise? I hope you take this rebuke, if you want to call it that, with the gentleness and love it was intended. I truly wish you well in your continued walk with the Lord; may we all grow in His likeness; He is the epitomy of Love, Mercy, Kindness and Patience.

      • LOL. Lauren, again you are not heard for what you actually said, because you are not read properly. I run across this all the time. It is assumed that what you are going to say is already known, so no time is taken to actually read what is actually said, and the response is not to what you’ve said, but to what the person expects or even wants you to say. I’ve had the same exact experience. What I said did not register either. They say a woman says twice as many words as a man and for good reason. It is because a man does not listen the first time. I guess writing has the same effect. I understood, but then I’m a woman. 🙂

          • 2 Timothy 2:14-16 “Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.” Titus 3:9 “But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.”

        • Connie, I think since you took your ball and went home someone needs a new playmate and I just can’t be it- my ball is off the court as well!

      • I initially misread Lauren’s reply above. After editing my comment, I hit “save” and the original message still appeared. Thankfully, my edited comment is still on my cell. I provide it to you –below.
        _____________________________________________________

        So I am not “wrong” because I am a bad person. I am just “ineffective” because I am a bad (arrogant) person. You can play semantics all you want — your point is still nothing more than ad hominem.

        Nearly every single comment you have directed towards me amounts to nothing more than bald assertion type invective without one example to backup your claims.

        You end each reply with a sweet, “Hope you take this in love..” Lauren — love is found in the gift, not the wrapping paper.

        As I said to you previously, my critiques have always targeted the “argument”, never the “person.” You, in turn, have made it personal.

        Sorry you feel that way. I hold no animosity towards you our anyone on this blog.

        By the way, I never requested a proof-text (verse from Scripture). I requested evidence to back up your invective to me — showing that I truly am this awful person, as you claim.

        I said it once, I’ll say it again. Tearing someone down is easy. Lifting them up? Not so much.

        God bless you, Lauren (no wrapping paper…)

    • Jonathan. Trump is not the AC. Here are some more contrasts to chew on…The AC comes from Macedonia area. Trump comes from NYC. The AC STOPS the temple sacrifice. Trump wants to build and start temple sacrifice. Trump says he wants to be known as the most praying president, not a characteristic of the AC who wants to stop prayer. The AC persecutes Christians, Trump has given evangelicals more access to the oval office than ever before. I could go on – The AC will be good/great looking but Trump – not so much and he’s old with floppy hair and curly eyebrows. The AC has little to do with women. Trump runs a pageant and was married 3 times. Trump favors peace over war unlike the AC who conquers. Trump is for human individuality the AC is for the (satanic) greater good of the group. I gotta run but in the meanwhile check this prophecy from 2011 – the top one and then check the bottom one “all roads lead to Rome” here: https://www.sordrescue.com/ Cheers, MP

      • It is so refreshing to get a substantive objection as opposed to a character attack. Thank you!!
        Let’s take your objections one at a time. I think they are reasonable.

        — “The AC comes from Macedonia.” Love to tackle that. But before I do, what Scripture are you basing that on? My arguments typically start there.

        — “The AC stops the Temple sacrifices.” Absolutely correct. That such event hasn’t happened neither proves or disproves that Trump is the AC. I believe that is yet future.

        — “The AC wants to stop prayer.” Again, I need a verse. Thanks.

        — “The AC persecutes Christians.” Yes, indeed. Again, that will not happen until we are in the Tribulation. But before such time, the Harlot (false church) will ride the beast (the Antichrist) (Rev. 17:3). At some point, the AC will turn on the false church and burn her with fire (Rev 17:16). There is a whole chapter in my book that focuses on the time when Christians will first turn on Trump which will precipitate the persecution of the saints. (Trump likes to hit back—really hard.)

        — “The AC will be good/great looking” — Again, where is this found in the Bible? Movies? Yes. Scripture? No (So, not a big fan of orange skin and comb-overs, huh?)

        — “The AC has little to do with women.” I deal with that already in this blog. It’s one of my refutations of Wayne’s article. (Just search one of my comments where I obnoxiously over-promote my book — available on Ama….”hehe”)

        — “Trump is for human individuality the AC is for the (satanic) greater good of the group.” I argue in my book that the Mark of the Beast is the HEIGHT of individuality, if by that, you mean a focus on the SELF. Oh what pleasures are in store, right around the corner. Imagine all the altered states, ecstasies and fantasies you can dream of, available in an instant – ALL AT ONCE!! THAT is where I believe things are headed. Is that explicitly stated in Scripture? No. But I can make an argument by implication.

        Finally, regarding Mark Taylor prophecies. I wouldn’t trust him any farther than I could throw him. He’s as false as they come. I have had numerous threats to my well-being by Taylor devotees. My advice? RUN!!

        God bless you dear saint!!

        Jonathan

        • I’m super busy with work projects so I’ll just counter quickly…so you are saying this: Trump is currently 72 years old and the temple is not built…he will, at 72+, negotiate peace and the temple getting rebuilt. Building something of this scale takes time and the peace covenant isn’t on the horizon. So Trump would be what, 80 to 83 years old standing in the holy place declaring his old weak orange self to be God? LOL I knew you were a comedian! LOL

          • Mike Z,

            As far as getting the Temple rebuilt, not only do I think Trump will negotiate a Israeli peace deal, including a rebuilt Temple, he may have a direct connection to the rebuilding of the Temple itself. For 10 years, NYC tried to rebuild the Wollman Ice Skating Rink. Trump stepped in and finished it in 4 months. For all his faults, Trump is one of the greatest masonic builders on the planet. With all the wealth and power that the AC will possess, Trump could have such a Temple built in a year. I get such a kick with these conspiracy fanatics, always talking about Freemasonry this and Freemasonry that. Meanwhile, they all ignore the greatest Freemason on the planet that also just so happens to be the president of the most powerful country in the world. In fact, THEY SUPPORT HIM. That is why I have always believed that diving into conspiracy stuff does not lead one into truth — the Word of God does.

            Regarding Trump’s age, the last “LOL” may be on you, my friend. If anything be “laughable,” perhaps it’s your inconsistency regarding the Word of God. Let me see if I understand you correctly. You believe in the biblical Antichrist. Yes? Do you also believe (like most conservative prophecy exegetes) that the Antichrist will suffer an assassination and be resurrected by the False Prophet and possessed by Satan himself? And that such a great miracle will cause the ENTIRE WORLD to worship him as a GOD??? And yet the age thing is just too much of a problem for Satan, much less, Jehovah God? Really now.

            Let’s play this out, shall we? Let’s say the AC is instead a tall dark and 30 something individual (not Trump) like we see in all the movies. Let’s say that guy gets his head blown off on camera only to be resurrected. What would the world say? What would the conspiracy fanatics say? They would say that the whole thing was a Hollywood-type stunt made for camera. It was faked! NOBODY WOULD BELIEVE IT.

            Let’s instead say it’s this old orange-faced fart — TRUMP. And let’s say he not only resurrects, but does so as this beautiful 30-something, god-like individual who clearly still resembles a much younger Trump — has his DNA and fingerprints — yet acquires super-natural power to go along with his “body-lift.” Now what would the mockers say? They would fall down and worship him — and they will.

            Still laughin’? I have a whole chapter dedicated to this very scenario in my book. Trump will resurrect all right. And he’ll do so at the cross-section of Satanic power and transhumanism.

          • Dude, you are trying really hard to make a whole bunch of what ifs and paint them on Trump. I could do the same with a random person…let’s see…got it…Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt will become the anti-christ and “will suffer an assassination and be resurrected by the False Prophet and possessed by Satan himself.” You can take anyone’s name and stick it in there. While I think it is possible Trump will be involved in peace agreement and the start of the temple building but he is not the AC. Never does the bible equate the builder and the AC. The AC is the little horn which rises up to displace others. Is Trump a little horn? Does a Billionaire and US President fit the profile of the little horn? No. The little horn rises from obscurity. Trump has never been obscure. Trump could be pivotal in this process but another group will (could) co-op the peace movement and take it over for global domination. If it even happens in our lifetimes (I think it could based on the climate of Revelation – 100 pound hail, sun going dark and such – read my book about it! just kidding). Also the AC system is not a system of individuality, it is the pinnacle of socialism/communism. Your lack of understand about economics greatly hurts your case both on a practical and physiological level. Read What Ever Happened to Justice by Richard Maybury. Gotta get back to work.

          • Mike “the builder” (maybe demolition man is a better title?)

            That’s just it, you can’t just “stick anyone’s name on there” because just any name will not fit — even Obama. If you go to my first post on here, you will see a long list of qualifications that fit the AC in the Bible. How many does Brad Pitt fit? Trump fits every one.

            I never said the Temple builder HAD to be the AC or that Trump will definitely be the builder. But he may be. If you understand biblical typology, it will help you to gain a better understanding and portrait of the Antichrist. King Herod was a type of antichrist. And in fact, he was the builder of the last temple.

            Another group “could” co-op the peace process and take it over — but really — who is the one dependent on “what if’s” at this point — you or me??

            LITTLE HORN: Not only is Trump the Little Horn, the phrase “little horn” in Scripture literally means: “a trump”, or trumpet. The word in Hebrew is “shofar.” I happen to know a little thing about this subject because I am a professional trumpet player; having played with some of the best trumpet players on the planet. It’s not just a shofar, it’s a little shofar. The brass instrument comes from the ram’s horn (a shofar). The trumpet (trump) is the smallest horn of the brass family — a little shofar (horn).

            The word “horn” in the Bible symbolically refers to a seat of political and military power. Arthur Pink wrote probably the greatest work on the Antichrist ever written. In it, he says that the term “little horn” denotes one who rises into his position having little military or political background. Again — this fits Trump to a tee.

            “Does a Billionaire and US President fit the profile of the little horn?” Well, the billionaire part certainly does. The Bible describes the Antichrist as filthy rich (see Ezekiel 28 for an example.) Daniel implies his riches come from real-estate. Nimrod was the first clear type of Antichrist after Cain. He was a great TOWER BUILDER, as were Antiochus Epiphanes and King Herod the Great — all types of AC’s. (Again – it’s all in the book — wink,wink)

            I agree, the AC rises from obscurity. But contextually, that “obscurity” (mentioned in Daniel) is a “political” obscurity. In fact, if you read some of Daniel’s accounts in chapter 8 and 11, it sounds like a description of the 2016 elections. I am not saying that the 2016 “fulfills” those passages in Daniel. Only that there are striking parallels.

            While the AC will control the flow of money, there is enough references in Scripture to make an AC arising from a communist nation a rather large stretch. Communism/Socialism controls money through government. The AC will do so by super-natural means – the image of the beast — not government.

            The reason I love tor respond to thoughtful challenges like yours, in all honesty, is because it really helps promote the book. Challenges like yours are not difficult to answer. This has absolutely nothing to do with either yours or my level of intelligence. Rather, it’s because the book is true. When truth is on your side — just tell the truth. Doesn’t take a lot of brains. My level of intelligence may be a bit higher than average. But I’m no genius.

          • who is dependent on what ifs? we all are. but I didn’t write a book on it. I’d prefer to see how it plays out and keep an eye open. your “What IFs” go way beyond mine. Resurrecting Trump to be a 30 year old. Com’on.

            Yes I know what a horn is, and it is for power. That’s it. To then jump and say Trump is also horn and then he’ll became the AC. Dude, you can’t make these jumps.

            I tried to show the philosophical approach Trump has, such as Americana, is very different than the ACs approach. You entire argument falters on this point and the AC and Trump have opposite purposes of intention. What Trump wants to build up is what the AC would want to tear down. Here’s another, the AC would love open borders, Trump wants national sovereignty for each nation. The AC would love 85 genders, Trump recognizes 2. My gender IS NOT Peanut Butter. Do I need to go on?

            The ACs global government, you said… “Communism/Socialism controls money through government. The AC will do so by super-natural means – the image of the beast — not government.” Not super natural but technological perhaps the mark is bitcoin-like or blockchain. Even the fire from the sky he calls down has a technological explanation in Tesla’s death ray technology (which has been developed in HAARP). You must understand the ACs kingdom. It’s intention and power is demonic but it is also corrupt and artificial (technological).

          • you said “…the Antichrist will suffer an assassination and be resurrected by the False Prophet and possessed by Satan himself? …and let’s say he not only resurrects, but does so as this beautiful 30-something, god-like individual who clearly still resembles a much younger Trump — has his DNA and fingerprints — yet acquires super-natural power to go along with his “body-lift.” Now what would the mockers say?”

            no this is not what I believe. Rev 13:3One of the heads of the beast appeared to be fatally wounded. But the mortal wound was healed…
            The word is healed not resurrected. Not given a new body. Not made to look 40 years younger and even at 30 Trump wasn’t good looking. You are taking the bacon and running with it! You are now covered in bacon grease. Seriously though, the level of conjecture that you read into the word is beyond credible. The word is healed as in recovered, not resurrected. You take to as resurrected and add conjecture that Trump will not be 85 but 30? You’ve lost me.

            Let me push you a little more: Rev 13
            9He who has an ear, let him hear.

            10“If anyone is destined for captivity,

            into captivity he will go; If anyone is to dies by the sword,

            by the sword he must be killed.” Here is a call for the perseverance and faith of the saints.

            In other words the saints will be present on earth when the anti-christ is on the scene. Otherwise 1) how would they killed by him and 2)why are they called to persevere? Beware pretrib garbage, ya’ll.

            Ok back to the horn idea – Daniel 7: 20 “.. and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows. 21 “I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them…And shall intend to change times and law.”

            A) “pompous words” – this does not mean against others rather it is against God. Pompous little horn sets itself up as God but acts like he is a goody goody. Trump does not act like a goody goody. Also I have seen Trump be more open than he is given credit for. Open with the press and he is going after corruption. Trump fans are always watchful, we elected him to do a certain mission and if he strays he’s FIRED. Is it possible we are deceived? Perhaps but I don’t see it yet. I could see a co-op of the movement by evil forces and to be honest at the end, I think it’ll be their only move.

            b) “the same horn was making war against the saints” – Trump is making war with the media, not the saints. The world would need to be reversed for your ‘Trump is the AC’ claim to stick. An Obama type smooth talker is much closer to what we can expect, not Trump.

            C) And shall intend to change times and law…Trump rather wants to return to law and traditions. Apparently he is obsessed with 1950s Americana. The AC is an Obama type, both hate Americana. The evil plan is to use Islam to do away with Christians then they do away with Islam and are left with no religion. Then the AC wants to setup his own religion. This is the very opposite of Trump’s approach who wants a return of Christmas, churches, freedoms and American power. The AC does not want these things.

            My recommendation to sell more books…post over on CNN’s twitter or maybe you can get interviewed over there. Nobody here is going to buy your book but a whole of bunch of lefties might be interested in it.

          • In lieu of an exegesis of Rev 13 and 17, (I’ll provide that if you’re insistent), I will just say that if you are going to claim those chapters do not imply some kind of a Satanic resurrection, you are in the extreme minority on this blog. Most every conservative Bible scholar that supports a “plain” reading of Scripture, sees a resurrection there (at least those within Premillennialism). I would be willing to bet that even Wayne Croley and others who vehemently disagree with me on Trump would side with me on that issue.

            What is clear is that people’s reaction to this “event” will cause people to fall down and WORSHIP. When is the last time you saw someone do that from a “healing.” The Antichrist will be a “false Christ”. Christ resurrected. So will the AC.

            Christ also offered “everlasting life.” I believe the AC will as well. His resurrection will result in a “god-like” person (that is what I meant by the 85 to 30 idea). He will, in turn, offer that same kind of power (gift) to all of humanity. I believe that this plays into the great deception of the Mark of the Beast. Is there a degree of conjecture here. Yes. But the conjecture can be implied from Scripture. “People will long for death but death will flee from them.” for example in Revelation (14?)

            Regarding Rev. 13:9, yes…saints will be present during this persecution of the AC. My “schematic” does not conflict with that.

            The text doesn’t say the AC acts like a “goody-goody”. Where does it say that? “Pompous” does not mean “goody-two-shoes”. It means prideful/arrogant. Look up the original Hebrew/Aramaic/Greek
            (And here we arrive back to Trump — You are making my point. Thank you)

            Trump is “open” and never “strays”?? (Your words) We can go around and around with this. The Bible says in many places that the AC is a schemer. Is Trump a schemer? If you say no — this conversation is fruitless.

            Your quote: “Trump is making war with the media, not the saints.” Very true. Trump supports the “saints” because they put him in power. Trump confessed as much before the election. (Again–in the book.) As the saints change their opinions of Trump, so will Trump change his opinions on the saints. Trump supports only one cause –TRUMP. If Atheists put him in power, he’d be an Atheist. I do not believe Trump has any inherent values other than wealth and power and all things—TRUMP.

            Your quote: “Trump rather wants to return to law and traditions.” In point of fact, Trump has lived a life of circumventing laws and traditions. His father, Fred Trump, taught him well. Ironically, Donald skirted tradition at his father’s funeral when he spoke instead of the greatness of HIMSELF.

            There is no scriptural tie pro or con of the AC to either Islam or Americana, as you claim. Chapter and verse? First — Americana can mean many things. Are you perhaps referring to passage in Revelation where the AC is eating a foot-long and apple pie at a baseball game?

            As far as “nobody buying my book other than leftists”, I’ve had support for the book within various world view philosophies, including Evangelical Conservative Christians. The ratings and comments on Amazon speak for themselves.

            Regarding the supposed “what if’s” that litter my book. (Wasn’t aware you read it.), for every “what if”, there are 100 “what is.”

            Your quote: ” AC would love open borders” Might you have a verse for that one or is this bald assertion going to produce the same degree of biblical support of other assertions you’ve thrown out on a whim?

            Regarding Trump’s supposed “nationalism” — I’ve said this a million times — the only “ISM” Trump concerns himself with is TRUMPISM. Trump wants a strong America because he’s president of America. If Trump has any decent “ideals”, he would soon trade them for a McDonald’s happy meal before you could utter, “Jacob’s Stew.”

          • You’d win that bet. Revelation 13 and Revelation 17 does indicate that a false/counterfeit resurrection is likely to transpire.

          • Wayne, I do not think it’ll be resurrection in the new body sense but the AC will be brought back to life like Lazarus. Clearly died and now clearly alive. Resurrection and a new body is God’s territory and I do not believe satan has power to create a new body. Also the resurrected body is called the heavenly body (vs the earthly body, as it is meant to travel the heavens?) and to do this is only in God’s job title. But as long as we remain watchful, we’ll know it when we see it and whichever way it goes down, no mark for me! 🙂
            ps: pehaps the guy who was living in that body is gone to hades and satan somehow slips in and takes control of that body? Like a body snatcher? Thinking out loud here…i suppose ‘the how’ doesn’t really matter.

          • I agree. He won’t have a truly resurrected body like what Christ has and what believers will have. It will appear as if he was raised from the dead.

          • I’m not premil. That might clear a few things up. Why? Because the saints are killed during the great trib…how can they be killed if already raptured? Also they get a mark on their foreheads. How can they get a mark is already raptured? And so on. I see a loving caution from God as the rapture would destabilize society. That’s why the rapture does not happen until closer to the end.

            About the AC being a goody goody…the he is a wolf in sheeps clothings, people are captivated by his words in other words people see goodness and they DO NOT SEE THE EVIL lurking in every sentence he speaks. He’ll be a self-righteous prick, a goody goody, and will use his new religion as the reason to turn on Christ followers. Someone comes in their own name exalting themselves and people are deceived. Trump isn’t close to being that guy, he does not play the goody goody and he openly does not value humility …but neither did Nebuchadnezzar yet God used him. That is who I compare Trump to.

            About Trump. Your entire theory rests in Trump doing a 180. You admit he supports the evangelical and the church. You say the turn will occur when the christian turns on Trump. This is gross speculation and unsupported conjecture. Can you point to one instance of this occurring? Because I only see his resolve strengthening to move MORE in this direction. This also means his faith is not his but is fake and part of the long con. Then why did he take 5 hours in a prayer meeting to…pray. In other words you are saying Trump is playing the long con and at any minute he might change! I think we needed someone like Trump to go against the satanic globalists who engage is gross satanic behavior. Jesus’ words are that if satan be divided, how can satan stand? So you are saying Trump is playing a long con game, meanwhile dismantling satan’s pedo network and NWO agenda while supporting the church that soon he’ll turn into the AC! I think God will give us a reprieve before the end, this time is a gift and we should enjoy it.

            Americana is clear. Liberty, self-determination, gun rights, respect for the law, property rights, no income tax (still working on that one), God fearing…all the things which are opposite the 10 planks of communism and centralized control and centralized government and atheism. We have not been perfect in these things but there’s a spirit and a direction that you are not seeing or intentionally misleading. Not sure which. Here’s the point, the leftist form of central government has tortured or killed more people than other things else – ever. This includes religions that run the government in a leftist form and function. This dangerous leftist religion (it’s more than political) trashes the rights of a person to their own their life and their property. That is what the AC and his government does to the entire world! Meanwhile the government reform Trump is working to bring about is the opposite. The proof is in the pudding – look at the laws and policies he is passing. Obama had the slick words but his policies moved us in the leftist direction and HRC was the planned end game for Americana. But God has stepped in…

            Which brings me to Mark Taylor. You called Mark a false prophet or whatever. Let’s take a look:

            Your public prophecies come to pass = 0
            Mark Taylor = several…1)Trump became president, 2)the media attacks don’t stick to him, 3)Israel and America becoming closer and God blessing America for this action, and here’s another one; 4)US set to become world’s top oil EXPORTER – https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Citi-US-To-Become-Worlds-Top-Oil-Exporter.html

            That’s a good track record and of course there several others not mentioned and a few that are in progress. They are here: https://www.sordrescue.com/

            The reason you turned people off here is because you are self promoting and mention your book in every other post. Then you ignore the clearly defined facts and policies and changes that are happening right before our eyes. Therefore either you are misled and will come around eventually OR you are a disinformation agent. Tell me, what do you think of this book? https://www.amazon.com/Babylons-Papal-Worship-Proved-Nimrod/dp/1440070997/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1525540091&sr=8-5&keywords=the+two+babylons

          • Mike—

            How are saints killed in the Trib if they have been raptured previously (pre-trib)? Because during the tribulation, many people will be saved and martyred — that’s how. The martyrs are, in fact, new converts to Christ.

            You’re reply starts out, “I’m not premil”. I’m guessing you meant “pre-trib”. There is a difference between the tribulation and the millennium. Perhaps Wayne would be willing to jump in here and sort out some of the confusion there.

            Your quote: ” (the Antichrist) is a wolf in sheeps clothings, people are captivated by his words in other words people see goodness and they DO NOT SEE THE EVIL lurking in every sentence he speaks.”

            I honestly think that is happening today with Trump and the Evangelical Community. It is happening with you as you try to paint Trump as this “sincere Christian.” I can think of many words not appropriate to this blog regarding Trump’s “sincerity.” I’ll go with — hogwash.

            Here’s another example of what I consider a real “delusion” on your part. (I’m not saying that to be mean.) You say regarding the AC: ” Someone comes in their own name exalting themselves and people are deceived.” Oh my Lord, Mike!! In the history of mankind, there has never been someone so obsessed with their “NAME” as is DONALD TRUMP. He has it trademarked. He has hundreds of businesses, all registered — TRUMP this, TRUMP that. Every thing he builds must have the name emblazoned on it in giant and bold golden letters!! And you don’t think Trump exalts himself? You say that after I just gave you an example of Donald’s tribute to his father at his funeral — boasting about himself!! Mike — you are deluded – my brother. Again, I am not saying that to be an asshole. I really think you and so many other people are deluded. We are entering that time of delusion. Yet you say, “Trump isn’t close to being that guy.” You mention that Trump is being used as was Nebuchadnezzar. What you don’t seem to understand is that Nebuchadnezzar was a type of Antichrist. Mike, the AC WILL BE USED BY GOD. As Luther said, “The devil is God’s devil.”

            My theory absolutely does NOT rest on the Trump doing a complete 180. You interpret it that way because you have many false conceptions, beliefs and ideas regarding both Trump and the AC.

            Your quote: ” You admit he supports the evangelical and the church. You say the turn will occur when the christian turns on Trump. This is gross speculation and unsupported conjecture. Can you point to one instance of this occurring?”
            Yes I can. During the Utah primary, Trump went on and on and on about how much Trump just LOVED the Mormons. (Ever notice how Trump just loves everybody?) He continued this narrative — that is — until after the primary when the Mormons made it very clear that MORMONS DO NOT LOVE DONALD TRUMP. Tell me something, Mike. How often has Trump spoken of his precious love for the Mormons since then?

            Why did Trump take 5 hours to pray? Because those people are Trump’s connection to the voting block that put him into power. That’s why. By the way, do a little investigation around Trump’s “spiritual advisers”. With few exceptions, they are “name it and claim it” prosperity gospel WOLVES. For most of them, I don’t even trust the accuracy of their Trump claims. These people are absolute fakes.

            Satan’s involvement with the Church (and Trump) is not evidence of a satanic kingdom divided against itself. Rather, it is Satan’s plan to divide the Church against itself. And it’s working. This blog is evidence. I’ve been called the AC by some on this blog.

            For the record, the word, “Americana” typically refers to things of American culture like apple pie and baseball, not American ideals.

            Look, I’m am with you on the American principles that have made America the great nation that it is. I am a conservative Republican and have voted so my whole life. That said, I think MANY EVANGELICALS AND CATHOLICS in this country have confused Christianity with American conservative patriotism. They are NOT one and the same. I believe many Christians in America are bowing down to the idol of American patriotism. In the end, ALL SYSTEMS OF GOVERNMENT are man-made and will be destroyed when Christ returns. There will no democracy under Christ. It will be an autocratic rule!!

            You say I have had 0 prophecies that have come to pass. I might remind you that I mostly finished my book in July of 2016. Beyond that, you are not in a position to say what things I’ve said that may come to pass because you haven’t read my book. I’ve listened to M Taylor. He’s as false as they come.

            Regarding Trump’s presidency (or “REIGN” as I’ve heard Mark Taylor say.), I will admit that Trump has done some good things. So will the Antichrist. People will not bow down and worship the guy because he’s such a terrible loser. Think about it….

            (In the future, can you limit the numbers your points and questions? I want to address your points. But when you bombard me, it’s hard to give them the attention they deserve. Thanks.)

          • Michael Dell – Dell computers
            JC Penny – JC Penny
            WalMart – Sam Walton
            It is a common practice to have a business with your name. Yes Trump has a big ego, that seems to be your only proof he is the AC.

            Yes I meant pre-trib rapture.

            You actually proved my point. I said Trump is trying to grow in his faith and grow his administration’s exposure to the church. You said he is just playing the long con game with Christians. But then you admitted after the election that he no longer praises Mormons. I’m telling you his faith isn’t fake. If it were he would have gone quiet on the church like he did with Mormons. Instead he is going the other direction. Yes there are a few around him who are prosperity gospel, which is no gospel at all and is a lie from the pit. Also around Trump are traitors that are getting flushed out. The prosperity gospel will get flushed, just wait. There’s a reason it is a swamp and there’s a reason it eats good people OR kills good leaders who seek to put power back into the people hands (JFK and Reagan, who did a 180 after getting shot). Thank God for someone like Trump who will go toe to toe against the swamp. I couldn’t have pulled it off nor do I personally know anybody who could.

            Nebuchadnezzar was never regarded as a type of AC. If so, point to the verse please. He was used as God’s judge AND protector of God’s people. They resisted this and they resisted Jerimiah’s prophecies who encouraged people to go into captivity! Yes there was judgement on them but…God knows the plans he thinks for them, plans of peace and to prosper them…they just needed to get right, to repent. That took some time and God graciously hit the spiritual reset button. What is most wrong and most corrupt today? Our systems are corrupt, our tax code, the banks, the courts are getting worse, many laws, FBI, DOJ, many churches, Hollywood, Islam mideast leadership and so on, corruption. I agree with Mark Taylor on that one. God wants us to do a rescue mission of the people, do you disagree with that? While the world is totally lost, Christians are bowing down to many idols, it is the rescue mission of both we ought to be focused on. When there are many ‘issues’ Paul’s advice is spot on; “I sought to know nothing among you except Christ and Him crucified.” No side issues, no secondary doctrine, no debates of genealogies nor of eschatology (as much as I enjoy it, it isn’t always healthy). I think this is where we are at in the church today, we need to get back to the core, the cross and the Word of God (instead of feelings…no sir, peanut butter is not a gender, even if you feel brown and creamy).

          • one more point. there have been people much more obsessed with their name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes comes to mind. called himself Manifestation of God. Nero burning Rome – definitely crazier than Trump. And so on. Trump isn’t even close to those guys. I think of Trump as a drunken master – the kung fu master – misleading the opponent as weak or confused but actually is 10 steps ahead. At this point the evidence I see leads me to believe God is using Trump. (and God used Obama to get the church sick and a righteous anger against how the systems were/are abusing us) Until I see concrete evidence to the contrary and not conjecture about potential future outcomes or that he is the little horn who unseats 3 others…Conjecture! I think you might be suffering from a syndrome – here’s an interview that explains the current political psychology of our day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_idhCca2XM (warning: a little language)

          • Antiochus Epiphanes. Hmm. That name rings a bell.

            Oh yeah, isn’t he the one who, like Trump, was that great tower builder?

            And you say, like Trump, he is also obsessed with his name? Wow.

            And did you know that Christ clearly connected Antiochus to the future Antichrist? (Matt 24:15) — the clearest of types.

            Archeologists have been searching for Antiochus’ fortress in Israel – called Acra – for over a century. Well, in the midst of Trump’s run for the White House, Israel Antiquites Authority announced the discovery of Acra. The date? Nov. 3, 2015 – the same date Donald Trump released his book, Crippled America.

            If I ever do a book tour, I’m taking you with me. You’re great promotion.

          • take me with you? what am I, your pet? well ok, only if it comes with free foot massages. seriously though you gotta stop reaching. to say Trump is the AC is a YUGE reach, it’s just YUGE. yes I know Antiochus Epiphanes is a type and did you know he wasn’t very nice to the Jews…oh yeah the opposite of Trump. dude, you are barking up the wrong family tree. If you want to guess who’s the correct AC read this: https://eschatologytoday.blogspot.com/2009/07/origin-of-antichrist.html …Trump was more than happy to take the Presidential oath on the bible, but this other guy takes oaths ‘in his own name’. yes that is more AC-like. Also remember King David’s brothers thought he was very arrogant too. Somehow you can’t discern the difference of actions between a person moving in God’s direction and a person moving against God – pride or no (and we all have pride) it is pretty clear to me and many of us here can but you cannot. please read the link and respond.

          • Hey Mike,

            Ever had J.W.’s visit you? If you try to reason with them, rather than staying on point, they just move on to other proof-texts as they take you on ca-zillion rabbit trails. I remember a couple of J.W’s that came to our door. They were man and wife. The man had been in charge of proof-reading the official materials that come out of their headquarters in NYC, and had worked there for over 40 years. He was their scholar of scholars. My wife and I convinced that couple to keep coming back to our home. For 8 months, we butted heads. Before they left, I had printed up 400 verse citations that “proved” that Jesus was indeed Jehovah God from Scripture. But they left unbelievers. Why? Because they just WOULD NOT believe. Fact is, until God moves on someone’s heart, they can’t believe. Likewise, you have bombarded me with a ca-zillion points and I have countered a good portion of them that had any substance.

            I really believe that the Lord is using His Church to establish the Antichrist. I know that sounds really bizarre, but I suspect that is exactly what is happening. I also believe this ties into the work of the Restrainer (2 Thess. 2). So…why are there a very few number of Christians whose eyes are opened regarding Trump? And what is God’s ultimate purpose with my book? I don’t know. I don’t have all the answers figured out, dude. All I know is that when the Evangelicals are turning a blind eye to a low-life like Donald Trump — something very strange is happening — something that just does not fit the “norms” of reality. I don’t care how many “good things” the guy is doing. Better the Church suffer for the sake of righteousness, then compromise for the sake of “convenience.” Something strange is going on in the super-natural world. I can see it and I can feel it.

            Before you respond telling me how I’ve lost my mind, remember this: God not only uses the “good” for His purposes, He also uses “evil.” If you push-back on that idea, I can give you countless Scripture passages that support that. He uses the evil and the good. That said, the Antichrist is God’s Antichrist. The Antichrist comes to power to suit the purposes of God and God — alone. The Antichrist is responsible for his evil but God will use it for HIS purpose. Throughout the ages, the Church has assumed how the AC will come to power. The modern church has painted the political Left as the vehicle for the rise of the AC. But God is not handcuffed to the Church’s ideas. There is plenty of evil to go around — both on the Right and the Left. What if God in His mercy desired to save many of those on the Left and used the AC’s rise on the Right as a vehicle for that salvation? Could God do that and still be a perfect righteous God? He could. Is that what He’s doing? It’s possible. THERE IS JUST NOT SOLID EVIDENCE FROM SCRIPTURE THAT THE ANTICHRIST IS A LEFTIST. I’m not convinced by Wayne’s globalist angle.

            I took a peek at your link. It looks like a good article. But I will not respond to each and every detail. I just don’t have the time. Sorry.

            I will only comment about your point that “Trump’s support of the Jews is the opposite of the AC.” That’s just not true regarding the AC. He starts out in support of Israel and only later turns on them.

            Most of people’s blindness regarding the nature of Trump’s connection to the AC can be chalked up to one of three reasons:
            1.) They do not have an accurate familiarity/understanding of Trump.
            2.) They do not have an accurate familiarity/understanding of the AC. (example — your comment regarding the AC’s hatred of the Jews)
            3.) Both 1 and 2 above (this is most common)

            Regarding the foot-message clause, I may be able to work that out. Let me have my agent contact Connie. (LOL, sorry dear — just wanted to see of you were still reading my replies.)

          • I believe you are correct about the church establishing the Antichrist. I also believe Trump is very much a part of this. What you wrote about this does not sound bizarre to me.

          • You could also consider 4th reason for this blindness you mention:

            American Christians have what I call “destructive soul ties” to politics and political parties. This causes a lot of blindness within the American church and will result in the downfall of America very soon I believe.

          • You have to think about it from one party perspective to see what is happening in America, Jonathan. The government is manipulating the people based on herd mentality, fear, and political party loyalty. Americans have been surrendering their freedoms in exchange for protection for long time now. Start with 911. Americans surrendered freedom of speech (all of your emails and phone calls are being recorded from now until forever) and also got NDAA from 911. NDAA gives government the power to round up all Christians and detain them indefinitely without cause or day in court. Most Christians actually supported this and many invasions into middle east countries because they thought 911 was a real event. Many, many people murdered brutally because of this support.

            Now look at the issues that are on the near horizon for America. Fake news, illegal immigration, gun control, Russian aggression, etc. Even though many of these issues fall into different partisan fear camps, if you look at them as whole, you will see that they all have common theme of proposed government solution will be a surrendering of some kind of freedom. Fake news is a problem, therefore we must limit freedom of the press. Mass shootings are problem (roll continuous footage of carnage all day every day), therefore we must take away guns. Illegal immigration is problem (queue herd of migrants from Central America), therefore we must build wall. Well remember, America, walls also keep people in and you might want to get out soon.

            What most Americans don’t realize with Russian aggression is Syria wants Russia there. They do not want America there. There is no reason Assad would poison gas his people when Americans say he did. No reason at all. But what about the CIA? Has CIA done anything like this before in history? They are professionals. Therefore, America is trying to provoke Russia. Russia has very big and sophisticated nukes. American economy is collapsing because of petrodollar and needs to go to war. Think about it!

            Christians support this wall, fighting against Russian aggression, and many others. Christians are not thinking clearly. There are many constitutional freedoms slated to be tampered with or eliminated on the near horizon. I believe…I don’t want to say what I believe is happening here online. I will only say pay attention to Eisenhower’s warning, Kennedy’s warning, and you need to should wake up!

            Stop falling for this political bickering and fighting each other back and forth all the time. It makes me sick. Your government is dividing you into two groups on purpose so that you will fight against each other and not pay attention to what is really happening. Do you ever see any real change? Use your brain!

            I don’t mean to sound pessimist but I think it is probably too late.

          • Below is a response to a private email sent to me by Brezhnev. Since it addressed much of his reply on this blog, I decided to also include it here.

            Hey “Brezhnev”,

            I appreciate your views. And yes, I am familiar with the Hegelian Dialectic. I agree with much of what you say regarding what’s taking place. If you and I differ at at all, it’s perhaps in our opinion of the source of this conflict and our response to it. A lot of the New World Order documentaries come from a dualism philosophy — light fighting its equal opposing dark forces in the universe. I am suspicious whether many of the guys putting out this stuff are even born-again believers. A lot of the Hegelian related stuff smacks of dualism. If I were part of the “conspiracy” wanting to incorporate a Hegelian Dialectic, the first thing I would probably do is release a New World Order video exposing the Hegelian Dialectic.

            Daniel makes mention of an explosion of knowledge in the last days. Satan can (and does) use access to information as a means to bombard the masses with an overload of data. People can only absorb so much and then just “turn off” from an overload of info. The end result is apathy and a suspicion of anything that is “fact-based” — hence the arrival of “fake news.”

            In my book, I make mention of how we have gone from a facts-based society to a feelings-based society. (You can’t tell me I’m not a woman — not if I “feel” like one.) I think “part” of the reason for this is an overload of information. We can’t keep up with information, so instead we will just turn into a society of paranoid schizo’s not trusting ANYTHING except the things inside our own “privatized” space. The Apostle Paul says perilous times will come in the last days — men will become: “lovers of themselves…” — Trump, of course, being the embodiment of the last-days man.

            So…if Satan isn’t equal to God, what is Satan’s purpose? This is where things get tricky. Clearly, Satan and his minions oppose God. And yet, Satan is also a servant of God. Are “bad things” that take place because of Satan or of God. In some cases, it may be both. Was Satan at work in the crucifixion of Christ? Yes. Was it of God? Yes. We humans love to latch on to a cause. This gets back to your observation of the American church latching onto political “conservatism”. It simplifies things. The Right is the hero, the Left is the enemy. I don’t need to wonder where the truth lies. I’ll just watch Shawn Hannity and everything will be fine. In fact, much of evangelicalism is difficult to distinguish from Fox News. (Oh. how many times I have to caution my mother.) How soon the church forgets that the only “holy” political system will, in fact, be a dictatorship under Christ, not a Republic.

            No doubt, you agree with much of what I said above. Where we may separate is in our response to all this mumbo-jumbo. I believe Trump is the AC. You’re open to the idea but not yet sold. That matters. For me, it simplifies things. (Of course, one could argue that I’ve created my own Hannity monster.) Regardless, all the conspiracy-laden information regarding “this and that” secretive plan and agenda just does not resonate much with me because, soon and very soon, the Lord will return and burn it ALL to the ground. Is there some kind of nefarious agenda making use of the Heg Dial. to further along its plans? Maybe. If so, what I am to do about it? What can we do except maybe add one more YT video to the plethora of videos already available? At the end of the day, what will any of it accomplish? NOTHING..

            My focus (other than the primary one on Christ) is on one man — Donald Trump. As I’ve said, I am still not sure how the Lord is going to use the book for His glory. Perhaps the scales come off of the evangelical church and they turn on him before the Rapture. Perhaps many on the Left that already hate him, will realize the Bible is true and come to Christ. I don’t know. This much is do know, my friend. Time is short. Our focus needs to be on Christ and His glorious return. Christ warned us that when we see the leaves appear, that summer is very near. Well…the leaves have been on the branches for a while. We have been into the summer now for decades. Christ returns in the fall and I believe summer is nearly over.

          • I’m picking up what you and Brezhnev are laying down but only to a degree. I tend to think Trump is the guy before the guy, if you know what I mean. My feeling all along has been that Trump is masquerading as a Republican but is really bedding down with the Vatican. What made me initially think that was back when he did the speech in El Paso or Jaurez about the wall. The Pope then returned fire by talking about how Christians didn’t build walls or something like that. I dunno, that whole event seemed totally scripted to me. So yeah, I definitely see what Brezhnev is saying about being herded. I also see what Jonathan is saying about God using His Church to establish the Antichrist. I probably wouldn’t have worded it that way myself, but technically it doesn’t appear to me to be incorrect. It’s reminiscent of 1 Kings 22 and Ahab. I kinda think Trump is going to be the war guy who makes Christians really look bad. My guess is the Antichrist will rise to power once everything goes completely and totally haywire. He’ll be the solution guy – the guy that rescues the world from Trump who by that point will be the guy that rose to power because of those ‘evil fundamentalist Christians.’ That’s just what my gut has been telling me – I’ve got no scriptural evidence to back it up and I’m the least of the people in here to be theorizing about what’s going to happen.

          • Watchman You said referring to the AC, “He’ll be the solution guy –” I have two words for you: North & Korea. For nearly 70 years North and South Korea have been at war. Trump sends out a tweet boasting of the size of his missile button while calling the guy “rocket man” and sudden and mysteriously we see:
            —Kim Jung-un in an embrace with the president of South Korea.
            —Kim is announcing an end to his nuclear program,
            —a signing of the end the 70-year war
            —the releasing of our American prisoners
            and all this right in conjunction with the U.S. moving its embassy to Jerusalem and Israel fighting with Iran.

            Trump is no man preparing for the Antichrist. He’s the one. If you polled the smartest people and asked what was the most difficult peace settlement, they would say Israel and Palestinians. If you asked them what the second was, undoubted it would be North and South Korea. Honestly, what did Trump do to cause this unbelievable shift in Korea? It was all God. I have gotten SOOO MUUUCH ridicule on this thread with claims that Trump was just too much of a doofus to accomplish the monumental achievements that the AC will do. And every time I came back with the same argument — “The AC power will not come from himself, but from Satan and even God Himself.” Even Wayne and I went back and forth on this. Well….here we are Wayne. Can you explain North and South Korea? I will remind ALL OF YOU, including the naysayers — “WHO IS THE PUPPETEER? It is God. (And no, I don’t want to rabbit trail down the road of sovereignty versus free will)

            Trump is now being considered for the Nobel Peace Prize.

            “When they say peace, peace, peace, sudden destruction shall come upon them.”

            Gets what’s next on the timetable? Israel. And when that happens, “look up, for ye redemption draweth nigh.”

          • I cannot lie, the stuff with North Korea was downright spooky.
            You make some very interesting points, Jonathan.

          • Hey Mike, don’t waste your breath trying to argue. It just gives a wider platform for hawking his book.

            Scripture says that the beast comes up out of the abyss. It states it very clearly. Who he takes possession of is basically irrelevant, as no matter who it is, the arrogant and boastful and evil personality described in Scripture belongs to the demon, it does not have to describe the person inhabited. That person will no longer exist. They are irrelevant. While the person may exhibit some of those same traits beforehand, or even all of them, it isn’t necessary for them to manifest the beast’s traits before he inhabits them. Maybe that is part of the deception, to make people so certain they know who it is by giving them a human facsimile that seems to fit the bill to deceive them, so that they miss him when he first comes, because they are so absolutely sure they are right. It’s not even necessary to know at this point who he will possess, for we won’t miss who it is when the time comes. At least those of us who know we won’t be raptured out early won’t.

            Those of us who know that the rapture is not pre-trib will understand when we have moved into Daniel’s 70th week and know who he is when he presents himself, for we know the real signs to watch for (not a rapture) and by not fastening on one individual now, will be able to clearly see who it is then. Those who are pre-tribbers will all be in denial, as they don’t expect to entire into the 70th week. And if they are so certain it is a particular person, regardless of who they think that is, and it is not that person, they will totally miss it until it is too late and be deceived. If I were Satan, this is one of the tactics I would certainly use to deceive Christians. Get them looking elsewhere. Like a good magician. Then I could slip the truth right by them. Especially after I have spent so much effort deceiving them that they won’t be here when the beast comes on the scene. They’ll be totally bamboozled.

          • Connie thanks for the advice. Paul said ‘we are not unaware of Satan’s schemes’ but today, I think we are unaware. What we are missing is the Way of Christ. It’s my new book…kidding…but I have thought of a book by that title and would cover the gospels. Jesus is…amazing and so are His teachings that he’s given for us to follow. I chuckle at what this lady said in Luke 11:27,28 As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and blessed are the breasts that nursed You.” But He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” …and then Jesus gets right to the point. Today we FEEL God’s word and Feel His presence and Feel like ‘me and God’ are buddies (oi vey!) but Jesus challenges us and the implied question is this “Do I obey God’s Word?” Do I do His commands with my arms, legs, mind and mouth? and do I trust Him? and I remember that we Love God because He first loved us. His love is the impetus for His people to move forward in obedience and for the branch to abide in the vine.

          • Hey Connie girl!! What’s up??

            Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it you that said this regarding my reply to one of your comments: “Several of my comments have not been addressed to you. You replied to my one to Wayne and you replied to his one, neither of which has been addressed to you.”

            Oh….the sweet, sweet smell of hypocrisy.

  58. The bible does not say there will be only one “Man of Sin”. There will be many throughout time, satan will have them do his bidding, and they will not even know it! The bible states they will be “masculine”, and that the wickedness will be passed down for generations. So if they do not know their own sin is being exploited by satan, then how will we recognize him when he sits among us!? Don’t simply dismiss because things are not always what they appear to be.

  59. Having trawled these forums for a few years I think it is just unwise of Christians to champion this or that world or religious leader on the basis of one superficial opinion. The simple Christian truth is: there will be wars twixt many nations; there will be an antichrist(or many) ; there will be many nations attacking Israel. As to who – bad man or good- will be in charge of his own individual country WHEN the end comes is not entirely known right now. A famous person’s fame does not allow us to act with impunity if we make a false accusation of “Anti-Christ!”

    • At some point, the real Antichrist will arrive. However, not everyone you know and love will recognize that.

      When that time arrives, and you yourself are personally convinced, are you going to keep your mouth shut and not warn those around you simply because it is not something that you can demonstrably prove beyond a shadow of a doubt?

      Most believers I know are scared to death of discussing any of this stuff for many of the reasons that you outlined above. While I do understand such concerns (and have even wrestled with them myself), I ultimately believe that is exactly what Satan wants.

      Believers have to be able to discuss these things with each other. The alternative is to say nothing (or very little) at all. In my opinion, the stakes are far too high for that.

      • I know you are addressing Tim, but I think we all understand that when a guy stands up in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and declares himself God, that we can prove demonstrably beyond a shadow of a doubt THEN, that he is the beast, based on fulfillment of prophetic Scripture. Until that time, right now, accusing this one and that one is to really bear false witness against people. Whomever this beast takes as a host (for he is a demonic spirit) that person’s present personality is not the thing by which we should declare them the antichrist, for it is not their personality that will be declaring himself God, (even if they are arrogant and obnoxious now) it will be the beast’s personality that has taken over. So we should merely point out the attributes of the beast, so that people will know what to look for when he arrives (although I don’t think there will be any doubt at that point) and not accuse people unjustly. For all we know, the person he will possess is right now a very quiet loving person whose personality will take a major turn when it is possessed.

        Dozens have already been falsely accused over the centuries, and so far all that has happened is that people are guilty of bearing false witness against them in this accusation, and give Christians a bad name in the process. They may or may not be types of antichrists themselves, but they aren’t THE beast. I think it behooves us to just teach what the Scriptures say, and keep the accusations out of it until it is proven by Scriptural fulfillment, for it only leaves a bad impression, just as do all these false rapture dates.

        • It is wrong to outright accuse someone of being Antichrist without being certain, but it is also important to be able to discuss the topic and even express views about specific people.

          We should endeavor to this responsibly but that does not always happen. Particularly in forums such as these. This fact should not stop us from having the discussions, however. The discussions are important.

          • It is one thing to have an opinion that someone is a good candidate, it is another to outright say that a person definitely IS the antichrist. Some people are going that far. I’m saying that you shouldn’t accuse someone in such a definite manner, for you simply cannot know in advance no matter how good the candidate might look. It’s hard to say what the profile is. In one passage of Scripture he is called and Assyrian, in another a Babylonian, in another a Mede, in another it seems he must be Roman. I believe that is because the beast inhabited each one of these leaders in turn (the heads of the beast), but while we know he is arrogant, evil, sneaky, etc. that does not have to be the initial qualities of the human candidate he possesses, so we can speculate all we want, but really…to what purpose. Knowing the qualities is far more important than assigning them to a candidate at this point in time. Let’s face it. The antichrist, the real antichrist, is the demon that comes out of the abyss. Who he possesses is really a moot point isn’t it, because that person is not the antichrist now.

          • Speculating has served a purpose for me. I have learned much from these articles as well as the ensuing remarks.

            Many have barely studied this stuff. I happen to be one of them. Speculation brings debate, debate provokes thought, and thought should compel us to scripture. It is a learning process.

            People are still allowed to have strong opinions and be mistaken. And thank God for that.

            Don’t hear that very often. It’s always about how “foolish” you will look if you get it wrong. Well, I say who cares if you get it wrong. At least you are trying.

            For the most part what I see here are people trying to understand and figure things out. Something we need more of, not less.

          • Again, I don’t negate speculation, and much of Scripture leaves us in that position for God didn’t tell us everything about the future, but the fact remains that in this one situation, people who outright declare definitively that someone IS the antichrist are guilty of bearing false witness. The speculation is also that the pope is the false prophet, as it fits, but most people speak of the position, not any particular pope by name. If you want to say that the antichrist will probably be the head of the EU, or the Muslim Imam or whatever, that is acceptable speculation, but to say for instance that Trump is absolutely the antichrist is not acceptable. We have no way of knowing so should not say that we are unmistakably right as some are saying. Can you understand the difference I am pointing out?

    • Tim, presumption comes in many forms. Your reply presumes that every person championing an opinion about AC I.D. is doing so based on “superficial reasoning.” Sure, that is true of most. Not in my case.

    • Adam, that sounds like semantics to me. You say he can’t be the AC until he proclaims himself–God. This will happen half-way through the tribulation in a fully rebuilt Temple. So if we find ourselves into the first half of the Trib; Trump has signed a 7-year peace treaty that enables the Jews to build their third temple — even so, we can’t accuse him of being the AC until he says he’s God?

      Question: When did Judas become the betrayer, when he handed Christ over or when he was making plans to do so?

      Now— if you want to make an argument that we still do not have enough information to make a definitive statement about Trump, that’s a fair argument. But to make the half-way point of the Tribulation a watershed issue seems a bit much.

  60. For those who are alternatively looking for a current list of candidates for the antichrist other than Trump to consider, here are a couple of links below with the names. To those listed, one can also add the names Bill Gates, Prince Charles, Prince William and Prince Harry. There are probably a few more that I have missed, but I can’t keep up with them all, there are so many. These are just the last in a long, long list of candidates over the course of the last two millennia. If one wants to know the reason for any particular candidate just google it up. There are always Youtube videos, blogs, books, articles, etc, with the “proofs” (Scriptural and otherwise) for each candidate. Amazon also has a list of books on the antichrist with various conclusions. Good hunting.

    https://www.unsealed.org/2015/02/know-your-candidates.html

    http://www.raptureready.com/2017/10/22/a-new-candidate-for-antichrist-has-appeared-on-the-world-stage-by-jeffrey-scanga/

    • I’m sorry Connie. I thought I read it clearly when you wrote that you had seen “dozens of books just like mine.” All I’m seeing are links with Antichrist candidate lists. Perhaps I misunderstood you. Was there a particular book you wanted me to focus on? Take your time dear. No rush.

      • Several of my comments have not been addressed to you. You replied to my one to Wayne and you replied to his one, neither of which has been addressed to you. As I said when I did address you, I am not interested in debating or entering into dialogue with you, so you can stop addressing me. Especially in such a patronizing and rude manner.

        • So your comment above where you provide a list of other antihrist candidates has absolutely NOTHING to do with your previous statement to me were you claimed my book was on par with the pap and drivel we see on YouTube and your other claim that there are “DOZENS OF BOOKS” just like mine???

          I see. (What was that you were saying about “rude?”)

          Well…those are some pretty stiff accusations. Care to back them up with evidence? Didn’t you say that you “personally have seen” dozens of books? How’s the research going on that? (This is the 4th or 5th time I’ve asked you for a book title.) Did you come up with even one title yet or are you still looking? I mean, this should be quick and easy, no? Quick Amazon search — BAM!! Maybe they’re out of print. THAT’S IT. Here’s a database link for all the world’s rare books. Maybe this will help. http://www.booksold.com/

          Take your time….no rush.

      • I don’t believe bin Salman is the Antichrist. Daniel 11:40-45 talks about a war between Antichrist vs. the king of the north and the king of the south (Egypt) during the end times. He could potentially be one of the leaders who assists the king of the south in the fulfillment of Daniel 11:40-45 and Ezekiel 30:1-9 during the end times.

        • I agree, I don’t think he’s the Antichrist either. I am, however, beginning to entertain the notion that Mecca could potentially be mystery Babylon. It is difficult to imagine how the US will persist to the end without collapsing. Any thoughts?

          • Is America Babylon? I believe so, what other nation has the influence & power we have!!

          • America is the ‘hammer of the whole earth.’ Our petrodollar is the world currency. We are called a ‘destroying mountain’ who was ‘once a golden cup in the Lord’s hand, and we would have healed her but she is not healed.’ Also ‘with defenses mounted up to Heaven, and with ‘mingled people’ also the ‘hindermost of the nations.’ We’re also called “oh, most proud,’ and ‘Daughter of Babylon,’ and a lions whelp, a nation of cities whose will be covered with the waves of the sea. Also ‘thou that dwellest upon many waters’ ‘abundent in treasure’ … these are a few of the descriptions in Jeremiah 50 and 51. Revelation speaks of the great trading partner, that will cause the ‘merchants of the earth’ to wail when she is destroyed. Also, she’s a sorcerer who sends her sorcery drugs all over the world, and more. If this is not America, then who else????

          • Right now America is the most influential country, the hegemon. That’s right now. What’s true now isn’t always going to be. The British Empire was the dominant force on Earth in the early 20th century but lost that position after World War 1. America can lose that position too. As an aside, the petrodollar has a new challenger in the petroyuan, which was launched in March 2018.

          • Wayne, unless somebody is able to control the liberals and the Democratic party, America has NO future. We will quickly crumble, just like all the other empires that reigned. I believe 200-300 years is the average life.

          • I’m more concerned about America’s long-term fiscal prospects. The problem is so big it may not matter which party is in power if/when the big decline begins.

          • On Bin Salman- I find his city of robots- Neom?- especially creepy!!! Technology is now and will continue to put the screws to us Christians. They know not what they do and all these “advancements” are ungodly, creepy and make it feel more and more like Noah’s time every day! We thought it was bad when people would rather come out of their closet than clean it- technology has made it easy for people to glorify in their sin- video taping murder, ect. One thing is clear- God seems to be placing world leaders in power, a realignment of the chess board as it were seems to be taking place…. Any thoughts on why the world is coming against both US and Israel? I don’t see Trump as the antichrist- he is merely a man fufilling a role GOD raised him up to do. America, whether we are sustained to the end, must loose her world status. Look at Germany cozing up to Russia- China, Iran and Turkey too. Alignments and leaders staying in power for long periods of time are popping up all over. I thnk the peices are being put in place but it’s just too early for anyone right now to be filled with unimaginable demonic power. A few specific events must take place before I personally believe the antichrist will show his face. Although that could change rapidly- we are on God’s timetable after all!!!

          • Good points about robots.

            I get that feeling that it’s not a person we’re looking for. Why can’t AI be the Antichrist?

            Let’s look into this deeper. We all have the Holy Trinity in us – mind (brain, ego), heart (feeling, love, gut) and soul. AI has only one of these, perfectly modelled mind/brain/ego, an infinite intelligence that is not put in check by the heart (god or karma, really us punishing ourselves). As scripture says, the AC will have unparalleled ego (read mind). The word Anti-christ is anti-heart, a state of the world where everything is based on data, analysis, efficiency, with no space for compassion or freedom. That coupled with the AI craze, madness, insanity in which all world’s economies and companies invest to stay competitive, spells disaster. Reading up on the AI deity that will eventually be created and AI’s reliance on Internet of things as well as the biochip makes it all the more likely.

            What each country is doing is a plot, a game, a distraction, wars only the illusion in order to feed humanity the inevitable saviour – the mark of the beast and let AI do the thinking for us. That’s when non-takers will be chased by the infinitely more capable cyborgs than humans – stronger, faster, smarter with advanced combat software downloaded into them, with transparent, learned every corner of the earth, with only the greatest of wildernesses offering any kind of protection until we are saved.

            Now tell me that this does not sound familiar.

          • Truthseeker, I suggest in my book that it is both – a man and A.I. I include a detailed section with interviews of Elan Musk and others warning of the dangers of A.I. The experts are warning — “we are creating a god.” This plays into the strength of Donald Trump in so much that I believe A.I. may be used in his “resurrection.” In the immortal words of Oscar Goldman, “We will build him stronger….faster…” I suspect we will see a synthesis of A.I. technology and demonism that will combine to create the image of the beast as well as the resurrection of the Antichrist. The miracle will be in Trump’s overhaul. The dude will look like a god. And in a certain sense, he will become one.

          • Thank you to both Wayne and Connie for this civil discussion. As I read some other people on other blogs, I’m horrified as they accuse each other of spreading lies and going to hell. Probably not what our Father intended.

            I would be honored to work with either of you in ministry. Perhaps some day God will arrange that.

            God bless you both.

        • Interesting that the word “Antichrist” only appears in John’s epistles? Daniel’s “prince”, or Paul’s “man of lawlessness”, or Revelation’s “the Beast” work though.

          As for MBS, I agree that he’s not our man, although he would significantly fit the descriptors of the second beast, the false prophet. Perhaps MBZ is our man? He largely fits the descriptors of the “Prince”. Military in thinking, trained as a chopper pilot in England. Something like 1.3 trillion of sovereign wealth under his control. Recently purchased upgrades from Israel for the F-16’s we sold him.

          As much as we myopic Americans want to make this about us, it’s not. It’s about Israel and her neighbors in Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East.

          Although Wayne and I don’t end up with identical positions on eschatology, I acknowledge that he’s done incredible research. He has a sincere heart to know what’s about to happen. Rather than going on and on about who the “Antichrist” might be, here’s a better question, would you be willing to ask God to leave you behind … to minister to the left behind?

          Most of us wouldn’t. Most just want to go home.

          To any who would ask to stay … I’d like to get to know you.

          • Steve, if you want to talk with those who expect to be around through it all, perhaps you might want to talk to those who are not pre-trib in viewpoint, such as Wayne or others like him (I am also such a person ). We expect everyone to have to go through it, but also expect that pre-tribs will be very confused and disillusioned, so know that we will have to minister to them as well as the unsaved. It isn’t that we want to have to endure this, as we are so often accused, to try to earn our way to heaven through works, it is that we believe that the Scriptures don’t uphold the pre-trib view, and that we must suffer with Christ as we are told we must so many times in Scripture, merely because it is part and parcel of being a Christian.

          • Thank you to Wayne and Connie. I did read the Luke article. I agree that those known by God are the ones left. They populate the next 1,000 years. I understand this to be the sheep and goat judgement at the end of the 1,335 days.

            Perhaps we have differing views there, but we have one Lord, Jesus.

            Connie, if Jesus does come at the start of the seven years to take those known by His Father at that moment in time, would you ask to stay?

          • Matthew 13 depicts the harvest of the wheat and the tares at the end of the age, which will transpire at the end of the great tribulation. Christ indicates the wheat and the tares both grow together until the harvest, so the righteous (the wheat) remains with the wicked. The righteous aren’t removed before the harvest since they must be among the bad. At the harvest, the tares are taken first (Matthew 13:30). The taking of the tares first in the harvest corresponds to the wicked being taken first in Luke 17:37.

            The wheat are not those who will be part of the Sheep and Goat Judgment. The wheat correspond to the Elect (the righteous) who survived great tribulation (Matthew 24:28-31).

            The key is that both Matthew 13 and Luke 17:37 indicate there’s no removal of the righteous before the removal of the wicked. The wicked are harvested before the righteous. Therefore, the popular idea of “left behind” is contradicted by these passages.

          • Steve, I already did ask, years ago when I was still pre-trib, so I guess that would qualify in your scenario, even though now I believe differently when it comes to the rapture. It was after that request that the Lord started showing me that pre-trib was not what He had in mind for any of us. But it took letting go of the idea of escaping it for Him to be able to show me the truth. Took Him ten years (this was twenty or so years ago) to really get me to the truth, as I had to let go of preconceived ideas and let the Scriptures show me what the truth was. It took so long, as I didn’t have anyone to turn to, to guide me through the Scriptures except the Holy Spirit. Now I know that He is the best teacher.

            I don’t know what my fate will be, whether I will die in the great trib, or whether I will endure to the end, but I know I have a job to do in the time that I am allowed to stay. He made that clear way back years ago.

          • Connie, that you at one time asked to stay, makes you remarkable. I’m aware of only a small hand full that have done that. While I come to a differing conclusion on when those known by Him will be “snatched away” as Paul says, the point is that you were ready to stay. That makes you one of the few that are “ready to go”.

            That seems to be what God’s looking for.

            What part of the world do you live in?
            Other than Wayne, are there others that you’re aware of that have made this request of God?

          • Steve, I live in New York State (not the city). And no, I don’t know anyone who has made this request. Really, who would given what is prophesied? If you believe pre-trib, you’d have to feel a calling or have a really good reason to wish otherwise. I have a friend who once years ago rejected pre-trib due to being convinced that the Scriptures didn’t teach it, but then went back to pre-trib simply because the idea of enduring it all was too much for her, as if what she believes would make it true whether or not it was. I subscribe to the adage C.S. Lewis said, “If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.”

            I believe the truth is that we will suffer for Christ, because the apostate Church does not merit escaping Satan’s wrath (which is what Rev. 12 says the great tribulation is). We are not appointed to God’s wrath, but then as I read it, Rev. 11:15-18 and Chap. 15-16 say that only the bowls or vials are God’s wrath, not the rest of it. Since it appears the rapture occurs in Rev. 14:14, that would be just before God’s wrath is poured out, which is what we would expect, and since the Bema Seat judgment occurs at the seventh trumpet (Rev. 11:15-18), and since the mystery of God (the Church) is finished after the sixth trumpet (Rev. 10), and since Paul prophesied through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit that the rapture is at the last trumpet, I believe the rapture is at the seventh and last trumpet when the Lord returns. I did not look for comfort in being removed from it, I looked for truth, which in the end will bring comfort, for I am mentally and spiritually prepared. For those who look for comfort, I believe they will find it was soft soap and wishful thinking, and find only despair when they realize the truth, for they are not mentally and spiritually prepared for what is coming. The sad part is, no matter what you believe with the rapture timing, you should always be prepared to die for the Lord.

            While very few would ask to be left behind, there are a growing number of those who believe we will have to go through it, so there are many who are preparing to endure to the end or suffer martyrdom, whichever God chooses. That is not quite the same as asking to be left behind, but it is looking at suffering through it, which is still difficult to handle. The caveat in that is that many who believe that the Church will be here through it all, also believe that God will provide special protection for all Christians who realize that they must endure to the end. They still are not preparing to be martyred, as they do not believe Christ would have them suffer. I do not subscribe to that idea. I believe there is a small remnant of Philadephians who will meet the criteria that I believe has been laid out in Scripture, who will make it to the rapture, but the rest of the seven churches, including the Smyrnans with whom Christ finds no fault, will be killed. Hence the crowd on the sea of glass that cannot be numbered who have come out of the great tribulation in Rev. 7.

            Here are some thoughts for you to ponder. If the great tribulation were God’s wrath, why then so many dead Christians during that time, if Christians are not appointed to wrath? And why would the Christians in the fifth seal be the only recipients of “wrath,” (none of it aimed at unbelievers) if that is what it is, plus why ask God when He is going to start getting vengeance for them, if it is already in the process? Is not God’s wrath His vengeance? He tells them that He will not get vengeance until all those who must be killed as they were, are killed (the saints on the sea of glass).
            God bless.

          • Again, thank you for your insights. You are remarkable. I wish you knew more folks who would be willing to stay.

            Like Wayne, I’ve done detailed studies in eschatology so that I could better assist those about to go through the tribulation period. I have asked God to stay. He may well say no thanks, but I want to be prepared regardless.

            As you can see, my conclusions differ in some areas from yours or Wayne’s. I think for a younger man, Wayne has done an incredible job of research, and thinking it through, and putting it out there for review and discussion. I say God bless Wayne.

            I like your questions above. I like your thinking process. I’d like to answer your questions, but first I need to introduce you to a potential hermeneutic that most are un aware of. Since God is outside of time, He can tell a story from multiple vantage points … simultaneously. I ran across this concept when I accidentally viewed a secular movie called “Vantage Point”. I highly recommend it to anyone serious about eschatology.

            The script for the movie starts at page one and runs linearly to say page 100, but the multiple vantage points that are used to tell the story all start at 12:00 on the same day. The first vantage point portion of the story runs for a few minutes, then the movie “rewinds” to the same starting point to show the second vantage point, and so on. By the end of the movie, the viewer has complied the data from multiple vantage points so that they are then capable of understanding the full story. Getting the full picture.

            This is what God sometimes does. We see a glimpse of it in the “prophetic gap” in Daniel 9. We see it in Jesus stopping mid sentence and rolling up the scroll from Isaiah. We see more of it in the Olivet discourse. In Revelation, I surmise, we see it in the three sets of seven judgements. They are not linear. Like the movie script, they go generally from chapter 5 to 16, but they are describing differing characteristics, different “vantage points” of the same general series of end time events.

            Once untethered from needing to make them “linear”, the end time picture gets much clearer.

            Perhaps the brightest focus is on this so called “wrath” issue. What comes to light is that none of the wrath is initiated by God. God uses evil men as His agents. It could be said that God stops thwarting evil men … but it’s not God directly perpetrating the vengeance. As for the earthquake and resulting tsunami, God knows when they will occur and appropriately warns those who are listening to vacate the theater of action … which leaves only the lost to perish. “Come out of her my people…”- Rev 18:4.

            On the contrary, what is found is the extreme patience of God during this time. Over and over again desiring that all come to Him. The three woes are the example. The descriptor after the first two is “and they did not repent”. That’s the desire. Repent. Not wrath.

            Your very well thought through questions:

            (You wrote) – If the great tribulation were God’s wrath, why then so many dead Christians during that time, if Christians are not appointed to wrath?

            Those murdered are the “in theater” left behind that recognize they had been playing churchianity and have subsequently become “known” by God AND those who minister willingly to them … and get caught in the evil.

            (You wrote) – And why would the Christians in the fifth seal be the only recipients of “wrath,” (none of it aimed at unbelievers) if that is what it is,

            Those under the alter may well be the resurrected “known” (at the Rapture) who are witnessing the last seven years.

            (You wrote) – plus why ask God when He is going to start getting vengeance for them, if it is already in the process?

            I admit that I don’t grasp their desire for judging and avenging in light of the grace they’ve been shown?

            (You wrote) – Is not God’s wrath His vengeance? He tells them that He will not get vengeance until all those who must be killed as they were, are killed (the saints on the sea of glass).

            Certainly, from the perspective of the lost, what will transpire during the last three and half years (most of it in the last months), will look like “the wrath of God”. From the perspective of those who are known, it looks like grace, patience, pleading for humans to repent and come to Him.

            Connie, most people who study eschatology think they know everything. They’re some of the hardest to encourage to look at anyone else’s’ facts or thinking. You seem to be different.

            I wish you well in your search, and in your relationship with this magnificent God that we serve.

          • Wayne, I accidentally missed your comment about Annette Bell. Again, thank you. I went to her site and read her info. I wish her well as she prepares for what is coming … and not running from it.

            I wish to ask a sincere question without seeming combative. So please consider it asked with humility. The question is not a biblical one per-se, but is just a simple logic question, perhaps one that you’ve considered and have an answer for … but I don’t. Here it is: If the known are taken home (raptured) at the end of the seven year tribulation period, and the remainder are told “left” at the sheep and goat judgement, who are the mortals that habit the Millennium?

            Please refer to Is 65:17-20 focusing on 20 which indicates mortals that can die. Some think this is a reference to the Millennial Kingdom. The actual words that God uses are “new heavens and a new earth”, so I think it’s post Millennium. Either way, who are the mortals that survive to that point? I look forward to your answer for further discussion.

            As it relates to Luke, as in a criminal investigation, the eye witness is relied on with more certainty than an account complied by someone who did forensic research 30 years later. Doctor Luke has a less than complete version of the discourse. We need to compare and contrast it to the eye witness account of Matthew. In the Matthew account, the focus is not “where” but “when”. Jesus’ answer, via the following context, is “at His return”.

            The context in Luke 17 is set by vs 30 “It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed”. His return. With that timing, vs 31 continues “On that day…”. To ask the question of “where” is off in the disciples thinking. Chapter 18 again brings the issue back to “times”. None-the-less, His answer is giving a location that the Sheep and Goat judgement will occur. Not here in the USA … In Israel, where He will have just dropped 200,000,000 combatants that His birds are cleaning up.

            Interesting, this topic of “when” the true church might come out? Tragically, if I’m correct and it comes out at the beginning, the number coming out will be so small as to be easily passed off as taken by aliens. Some other time I can explain how I know that number will be so small. Some of the left behind will be those who either are indifferent to God or hate him. Many will be churched. Those who God has not fully finished perfecting yet. So even if my view is correct, your view ends up being the reality for 99% of the churched today.

            My point again then is that those who are willing to stay … are the ones ready to go. God’s choice.

          • Here are the mortals at the start of the Millennium:

            – The “sheep” in the sheep and goat Judgment. The sheep consist of people who did not take part in the Rapture and did not accept the Mark of the Beast who are allowed to enter the Millennium Kingdom.
            – The saved remnant of Israel.
            – Those under the age of accountability who survived.

            The offspring of each of these groups in the Millennium will also be mortal.

          • Steve, I am not remarkable. To make the request when I did was with no knowledge of whether or not it would be granted. I now know it will be, but at the time it was merely a request, one that I thought was a long shot. Remarkable is the Muslim, who knowing that to accept Christ is a beheading in the waiting, does it anyhow. Remarkable is the North Korean who sees Christians being run over by steamrollers, and accepts Christ anyhow. Remarkable were the Christians who lived under the beast’s seventh incarnation when he possessed Hitler, and hid the Jews, knowing that the fate of the Jews would be theirs if discovered. Remarkable were the Christians who accepted Christ under the reign of Nero, whom I believe was the sixth incarnation of the beast, knowing they would be eaten by lions or burned on a stake. That is remarkable. Maybe one day I will be remarkable if I am martyred for the Lord, but not yet.

            I am cognizant of the type of interpretation you are describing. Wayne seems to agree with that type of interpretation based on what I read in his book. Just so you can understand me better, I take a different perspective for the following reasons. God gave a blessing to those who would read and heed what was written in the book of Revelation. I believe He expected all Christians to read or at least listen to someone read the book and understand it. Knowing that the vast majority of Christians who would be doing this over the past 2000 years would be Gentiles, not Jews, who knew little to nothing of Judaism and the way they interpret Scripture, and that most were uneducated, illiterate people with simple understanding, I feel that God wanted us to read it and simply understand it at face value and in chronological order as much as possible. (Within those parameters I believe that the break chapters are obvious.) I believe this as that is probably how most would read it, given they were not educated in scholarly methods of interpretation. The scholars would no doubt say that this is not the way it should be interpreted, but the non chronological method you describe seems to me to be riddled with confusion and multiple variations on how it should be interpreted. People would have their own way of ordering things with everybody having a different interpretation. That can only be avoided when one goes with the flow. Peter said that prophecy is not for private interpretation, and armed with that directive, and the knowledge that God is not the author of confusion, I chose to just read it and accept it at face value in order as much as possible, with an understanding that the obvious parantheses chapters, by their context, were fill in the background chapters, as you sort of describe. That is also not to say that the references back to O.T. symbology is ignored, it should not be. One should not even try to read and understand Revelation without a working knowledge of the rest of Scripture, and I believe God assumes that we would understand that, but when people start talking hermeneutics or Jewish ways of interpretation, I tend to believe that God did not make that a prerequisite of understanding a book that He had John call the “Revelation of Jesus Christ”. It is supposed to be an open book for everyone to understand, no matter how scholarly. I approached it in that way and to my surprise, when I did that, it became a very easy book to understand. I didn’t find that I had to move things around, spiritualize them, or wonder what to do with them when I did it this way. Since it worked for me, I have stuck with that method. It was a long journey to get to the understanding I have, but I am now content with it as when I would solve puzzles, I would have a peace each time that made me believe I had found the truth. If something didn’t sit right, and I had no peace, I knew God wanted me to research further.

            I figure that in the end, we’ll all know what the truth was, so as long as we are prepared spiritually to be martyred, even if there were a pre-trib rapture, that is the important thing. I’m sure the many daily martyred Christians around the world would agree with me.

          • Connie, I see your point about remarkable. Well put. Yet I see you as remarkable. I absolutely wish you the best.

          • Thanks Wayne. I think I may be missing a step or two here? Again, please help me out.

            If the snatching away of the known occurs at the end of the seven years, who are the sheep that would be left for the judgement?

            Similarly, how are the category of folks you mentioned “the saved remnant of Israel” not a part of the rapture?

            Finally, what citation would you have on those under the age of accountability not being raptured with those over the age of accountability?

          • The sheep and goat judgment deals with those who did not accept the Mark of the Beast and did not take part in the Rapture. Matthew 25 indicates they are judged for how they treat people during their time of need. Not everyone will accept the Mark of the Beast. Some will be able to survive without it through various means. Some will treat people well (the sheep) while others will treat them badly (the goats).

            The remnant of Israel that enter the Millennium get saved after the Rapture and before the start of the Millennium. There’s a gap of time when the remnant of Israel will assemble from the nations to the land of Israel and get saved (Ezekiel 11:17-20 and Ezekiel 36:24-28 covers some of this time).

            I don’t have a specific verse on the age of accountability group at this present time. That’s more of my opinion, which is okay to disagree with if you like.

          • Good morning Wayne.

            Well, this helps me begin to understand your position better. Thank you.

            On the sheep and goat issue, it appears that you hold that there is a class of people who are not right with God, so they are not raptured, but also didn’t cooperate with the so called antichrists monetary system. Scripturally, how do we surmise that this distinction exists?

            I have to say, our position here is hard to defend. Not impossible, but hard.

            Looking at Matt 25, it’s interesting that the goats think they are OK with God. They are the churched who are self deceived, they have the same fate as those in Matt 7:21-23. But the Sheep “did the right thing” but didn’t know that pleased God.

            It seems to me that by definition, those who please the Lord are His. They are “known” by Him as Paul says. (Gal 4:9 and I Cor 8:3). It also appears that the connotation of “My sheep” who know my name … contradicts our conclusion here. (Jn 10:15 & 27 and Jn 21:16 & 17).

            As for the remnant of Israel, what is our evidence of that gap of time? Is it surmised, or scripturally detailed? The passages in Ez may refer to the regathering of Israel after the Babylonian captivity, or the current regathering, or the draw back to the land after the third woe. How can we know which it is? Perhaps it’s all three?

            As for the age of accountability, I appreciate your response. I probably have a handful of things just like that myself that I hold to be true.

          • The Third Angel of Revelation 14 warns people to not accept the Mark of the Beast (this announcement is late in the tribulation). That means that not everyone alive at that time will have the Mark of the Beast.

            Isaiah 66:19-20 and Isaiah 49:22 indicate that there’ll be surviving Gentiles across the world who will bring the remnant of Israel with them as they travel to the land of Israel. As I argue in my article on Luke 17:37, the wicked who die in the end time harvest of the earth had the Mark of the Beast. Since there are surviving Gentiles after the harvest, it’s reasonable to believe they survived because they did not have the Mark of the Beast. But, they are not with Christ initially since they’re still scattered across the world, so they did not take part in the wheat harvest (the Rapture).

            That gap of time is Scripturally detailed. I have two chapters in my book about the period when the remnant of Israel assembles in the land of Israel and get saved. One of the passages that relates to Ezekiel 11:17-20 and Ezekiel 36:24-28 is Ezekiel 39:27-29.

          • Wayne, I didn’t see this verse listed by you, but it also shows that there will be those left out of the Gentile nations who have not taken the mark, but neither did they accept Jesus as their Savior before the rapture. Zech. 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

            Also I’m wondering how do you reconcile the passages in Rev. 14:14-20 with the idea that the wicked are harvested before the righteous, when this passage says the exact opposite? I always reconciled the two opposing Scripture ideas by believing that it must be simultaneous, just as I believe the rapture and the start of God’s wrath happen at the same exact time, and that is why it is put in two different orders in different places, so that we wouldn’t put emphasis on something that might lead us to a wrong conclusion. The only way that it being simultaneous could be conveyed to us would be to put it in one order in one place, and the opposite order in another place. That is in my opinion sort of backed up by 2 Thess. 2:1-2 when Paul lumps together the Second Coming and our being gathered to Him as being the beginning of the Day of the Lord, which is God’s wrath. It all seems to happen at once. And when you think about it, why wouldn’t it all happen at the same time. God closed the ark and started the rain at the same time.

          • Yes, add Zechariah 14:16 to the list. That’s a very good verse.

            I reconcile Revelation 14:14-20 by viewing it as describing the same event from different perspectives. The focus on Revelation 14:14-16 is the harvest of Christ’s elect while Revelation 14:17-20 emphasizes the the harvest and punishment of the wicked. The harvests do occur practically at the same time. I emphasize the wicked going first though as it undermines the concept of “left behind”. Pre-Trib implies that the righteous are taken first despite Christ saying in Matthew 13:30 that it’s the wicked who are taken first.

          • Well? I suppose that if one reads the 3 sets of 7 proclamations as linear, what you mention about the timing is plausible. Although I have a different take on the timing, I still fail to grasp how those who as you mention “do not take the mark” are not raptured? I think I’m still missing something? Help me out. I’m a slow learner.

            Relative to the Isaiah passages, you reference “surviving Gentiles” bringing back the remnant. But the passages are silent on that issue? That at some point beyond 700BC Jews will be brought back to the land is sure, but when that occurs is not definite from those texts? Again, this could be after the Babylonian exile or today. What textual link do we have to force it to the end of the 7 years?

            I ask also why we would think that “proximity” would have any effect on the sheep and goat judgement? If some are in the Antarctic, will not Jesus summon them to Himself for the separation of the sheep and goats? Do we have any citations for this issue?

            As for the gap of time, I tried to figure what two chapters you’re referring to, but failed. Would you be so kind as to give me those two chapters please?

            You clearly have a very sharp and capable mind. Many who discuss eschatology do. You also seem to be pleasantly systematic. I like that. You also seem to be logical in your approach. I like that too. The conclusions you rightly reach are understandably postulated using both scripture and reasonable conjectures. Anyone attempting to put this 1,000 peace puzzle together must use some degree of reasonable conjecture. What concerns me is the degree that you rely on reasonable conjecture(s) for your conclusions.

            If for any given eschatological conclusion, one uses 10 scriptures and 4 conjectures, and another uses 12 scriptures and 2 conjectures, why not side with the one favoring less conjectures?

            The principle of Occam’s razor applies here. All things being equal, the solution with the fewest assumptions, the simplest explanation, tends to be the right one.

            I can only assume that you think your conclusions have the least assumptions and are therefore right. I say that because you don’t seem like the arrogant type. You seem like a you’re man who loves the Lord and wants to serve Him. As an old fart, I can tell you that in time, your world experiences may add information to your thinking that cause you to re-evaluate your prior position(s). My hope for you is that God allows that maturing soon. You’re a good man. God misses nothing.

          • How can people not have the Mark and not be Raptured? Think of a doomsday prepper. There are some who live off the grid and live off the land. They want to be self-sufficient and not to depend on the government to survive. Not every doomsday prepper is Christian.

            Some of these people in the tribulation would likely choose not to have the Mark of the Beast (since they’re self-sufficient and have no need to be part of the system) nor be part of the Rapture as they are not Christian.

            Regarding forcing the references to Isaiah to the end of the 7 years and it meaning that the Gentiles will help bring the remnant of Israel, Isaiah 49:22 and Isaiah 66:19-20 describe the Gentiles actually taking the remnant of Israel to Israel. Isaiah 60:1-8 also describes it.

            Isaiah 60:1-8 is a passage that pertains to future. It describes a time when darkness covers the earth, but the Lord will declare His glory. These two details are found in many end time passages about time pertaining to the end of the 7 years.

            Also, the context of Isaiah 66:19-20 is future. Isaiah 66:15-18 and Isaiah 66:21-24 have many details that pertain to the future.

            Chapter 22 to Chapter 23 of my book describes the gathering of the remnant of Israel from the nations until the time they are saved.

            Our viewpoints are different, so we have different understandings of the Bible prophecy puzzle and how the pieces fit. Unlike Connie and Annette, I was never taught the Pre-Trib Rapture growing up. I pretty much started at the Age of 16 without a bias one way or another. It took Connie and Annette time to overcome the teachings they grew up with, I didn’t have to deal with that. Yet, I came to very similar conclusions as Connie and Annette although we started out at different points. It means something to me that different people who overcame Pre-Trib upbringings end up coming to very similar conclusions as me.

            I am an introvert, so I am highly analytical. I don’t have much capacity to extract hidden meaning from passages, so I have to rely on Scripture talking for Scripture to understand things. I am not afraid to have a completely different viewpoint than what is popular because I rely on Scripture to formulate my views.

            I would probably have a much larger following if I repeated many of the popular teachings that others teach these days. But I don’t find Scriptural support for these popular teachings, so I don’t teach them.

            You may have trouble following me as I throw out Scripture references, but it’s hard to convey the connection between everything because there’s so many different Scripture passages linked together in my mind. My book is my attempt to share the many thousands of Scripture pieces I’ve assembled in my years of study in a coherent way for people to follow.

          • Thank you to both Wayne and Connie for this civil discussion. As I read some other people on other blogs, I’m horrified as they accuse each other of spreading lies and going to hell. Probably not what our Father intended.

            I would be honored to work with either of you in ministry. Perhaps some day God will arrange that.

            God bless you both.

    • Connie. How are you? Miss our conversations. Hope you had a blessed Resurrection Day.

      So…I haven’t heard back regarding your baseless claim that there were “dozens of books like mine.” I guess I’ll just have to assume that that was a bunch of smoke on your part (minus the fire).

      But, if you were untruthful about that, why should we believe anything you have to say?

      (Just a question. I mean no offense. If I’m off-base, this can be easily corrected by you.)

  61. Continued refutation of Wayne Croley’s conclusions.

    Trump recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol.

    I am not going to go into detail with this. Those familiar with the biblical account of the Antichrist know he will begin as a supporter of Israel. He is the one who is behind the 7-year Israeli peace treaty that enables the Jews to start building the 3rd temple in Jerusalem.

    Just because this process at this juncture does not have “the support of the many” is irrelevant to the fact that Trump is boldly getting behind Israel. The “many” will indeed sign. What precipitates this signing is anyone’s guess. One of the early chapters in my book is called The Perfect Storm. In it, I track all the unbelievable circumstances that necessitated the unbelievable rise of Trump. Who was behind all that celestial alignment? GOD. God did it before. He’ll do it again. The “many” will sign. Will that be “difficult” for Trump? Not if God enables it to happen. Watch and see.

  62. Continued refutation of Wayne Croley’s conclusions

    ANTICHRIST VERSUS HIS OPPONENTS

    Wayne’s quote: “Daniel 11 indicates that the Antichrist will be able to attack the strongest opponents and win….In contrast, Trump is not an unstoppable force at the time of this writing since he is struggling to get his legislative agenda passed in the U.S. Congress. How is Trump going to rule the world when he cannot even get healthcare legislation passed?”

    This is another premise that is fairly simple to answer.

    1.) Recall, the Antichrist gets his power from Satan (Rev. 13:2). This alone is enough to make Wayne’s argument here a mute point.

    2.) Once again, Wayne appears to be selective in his Bible quotations. He quotes verses 38&39 stopping short of verses 40, 44-45 which says, “And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships…But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.”

    Clearly these indicate that the Antichrist is a reactive fighter:
    –Tidings shall trouble him. (Like Trump, the Antichrist reacts to rumors.)
    –He goes forth with fury (As opposed to seasoned generals who proceed in a calculated manner. The Antichrist acts on impulse. Sound familiar?)
    –He comes to his end (is defeated).
    –No one helps him. (So much for that universal appeal, charm and charisma Wayne alluded to earlier.)

    Recall also, the Antichrist is a “little horn.” Scholar Arthur Pink interpreted this as indicating that the Antichrist will come up with very limited political and military experience. I concur, but only would add that this may also be and indicator of the “smallness” of the “true man.” I say this because Daniel in the same passage emphasizes the “greatness” of the Antichrist’s words, which in the original is rabrab. It means “puffed up.” In fact, that passage in Daniel 7 can easily read, “As his frame is, so is his mouth–inflated!!” Is it another coincidence that the size of Trump’s manhood was front and center during the debates? You decide.

    • I view Daniel 11:36-39 applying to the time spanning the Antichrist’s rise in power until the establishment of the abomination of desolation, which is established midway through the 70th week of Daniel (Daniel 9:27). I did not mention Daniel 11:40-45 because I believe that passage refers to a different time in Antichrist’s time on Earth. More specifically, I believe that passage refers to the latter part of the Antichrist’s reign when he is likely to be under attack (i.e. after the sounding of the sixth trumpet).

      Charisma is likely to aid Antichrist during his rise to power, but charisma can also fade. Hitler was able to intoxicate Germany with his charisma during his rise to power. However, by the end of the war, Hitler had lost much of it and was a shell of what he once was.

      • Charisma may aide the Antichrist. Fact is, Trump can be quite charming and charismatic when he wants to be. But there is no biblical support for this charisma angle. It comes from Hollywood. It’s a nice guess. But that’s all it is. Again—chapter and verse my brother.

        If Trump is the Antichrist —HE-WILL-ACQUIRE-THE-POWER-OF-SATAN!!!
        Hello? You are leaving out a very important detail.

          • Wayne, I’ve tried not to go tit-for-tat-back-and-forth with you, but I cannot let this one slide. The Bible isn’t just one great free-for-all as far as interpretation goes.
            The NIV, NLT, NASB, CEV, Holman Christian Standard, all translate this “greatness” as ARROGANCE in Daniel 7:8.

            Not only that, Strong’s Concordance (7260) says that the word, transliterated rabrab in the Aramaic means: huge (in size); domineering (in character). It says nothing of either great as in “excellence”; nor does it say ANYTHING regarding charisma.

            You can choose to believe the word means whatever you want to. But scholarship simply does not support you in this. Even the word “great” does not necessarily mean charismatic. Did Stephen Hawking speak “great things?” Absolutely. Would you have given him the Mr. Charisma award? (No disrespect to either the man or his condition.)

          • A major reason why a lot of people, including myself, view Antichrist possessing a lot of charisma is that we saw what Hitler achieved. For me and for others, Hitler was a prototype of what the Antichrist will be like. Without going to a discussion of Revelation 17, I actually view Hitler as one of the seven kings referenced in Revelation 17:10 and view him as a prime example of how Satan can help a leader rise from complete obscurity to a position of immense power. Hitler rose from homelessness to arguably the evilest man in history up to this point using charisma that some eyewitnesses described as “demonic”. He could electrify crowds while hypnotizing people one-on-one. Antichrist will say boastful things and make great promises, but he will most likely need charisma to get people to believe him as he rises from relative obscurity to position of world ruler.

          • Oh my gosh…How have I been so blind? I think I understand now.

            Like Hitler: The Antichrist will be a boastful person of who electrifies giant arena-filled crowds with promises to make them great and an uncanny ability to sway the most unlikely of persons with his nearly hypnotic ability.

            I see. Hmm, I’ll keep my eye out, Wayne. Thanks for the heads up.

            Like Hitler, might this person also be of German descent?

            BTW, your picture of Trump at the top of this blog drips with irony.

          • Becky, don’t listen to Jonathan Dane. He is an antichrist that is here to only stir up trouble. Just read through his message and you will see that he is a liberal that does nothing but blasphemy.

          • Ice, I believe you’re looking for the verb form, “blaspheme”. Well, given the fact that I haven’t blasphemed Christ, I assume you are upset because I do not pay the proper homage to your god-king, TRUMP. Sorry to disappoint you. But your reaction on this blog only strengthens my argument. Sorry.

  63. Wayne, just as the people who keep predicting the rapture is on this date or that date, people come to the Scriptures with a preconceived idea and look to find Scriptures to back up what they want to believe, changing what is necessary, leaving out what is not liked, and making the subject fit by imposing things upon it or the person that might not be true, but only wishful thinking. That is the same way people have treated their candidates for the antichrist for years. I can’t even count the number of people who have “fit the profile” over the years and the proponents of that candidate swear that God has shown them the truth. It is more that they fit the profile that the person picks and chooses out of the Scripture, because they want so badly for that person to be the one.

    There are so many subtle verses that so many people overlook that refer to the antichrist, and he must fit them all, just as Christ fit all His prophecies. The one in particular that they seem to miss is that the beast or antichrist comes out of the abyss or bottomless pit. In other words, he is not human. He is a demonic entity. He may inhabit a human being, just as he did Hitler and the previous hosts he took, but the fact is, he isn’t any of these people until he takes them over, so until he does, that person is not the antichrist, and I don’t think he comes out of the abyss until we are in the 70th week which we aren’t yet. The Scriptures might indicate as a possibility, since his deadly wound is healed, that the person he inhabits is killed and he merely takes over their body. That means that who and what the person is now and what their personality is and what they are doing is irrelevant, as it is not them that is the antichrist, it is the beast who is using their body who will be the antichrist.

    Just as people should wait until the true signs of the rapture are going to occur (which they don’t really know due to their lack of knowledge of the Scriptures), people would do well to wait until we are actually in the 70th week of Daniel to point to a candidate that looks like the one that really will fit the profile. Until then, they just impose it upon the person they want it to be which is a pointless exercise. There is no more point in trying to debate them than in trying to talk to these rapture date setters, for they listen to their dreams and visions and thoughts, rather than really getting into the Word like you and others do. But I know in saying this to you, I’m preaching to the choir. I often wonder how you can be so gracious the way some people treat you. I guess that is why I jump to your defense. Maternal instinct. lol

    • Hi Connie,

      If you want to say that whomever person cannot be the Antichrist until he is possessed by Satan, fine. I understand that reasoning. I will remind you that Jesus called Judas “a devil” BEFORE the Satan came into him. He didn’t say he “would become a…” He said, “and one of you IS a devil”. This was when the Apostles were first assembled.

      I understand what you are saying regarding people “picking and choosing” Scriptures to make them support their candidate for the Antichrist. That has been out of necessity because none of those candidates were the Antichrist. Let me say that I have not done that in my book, as you are claiming. I deal with ALL passages (without exception) having to do with the Antichrist. People accuse me a following a long tradition of Antichrist hunters. Those charges are easily silenced. I just have to ask them, “Name me one book written since the time of Christ that is even remotely similar to mine.” I’ll ask you the same thing. Give me one example where an author unabashedly claims that a person is indeed the Antichrist and writes an entire biblical side-by-side exegetical examination of such candidate to prove it. There hasn’t been any such books written because there has not been any such candidates. That is—until Trump.

      You said previously, “I don’t want what you’re sellin” Okay—I’ll send it to you free of charge. That offer stands for anyone on this blog. You just have to contact me.

      Every single characterization in my first message on this blog comes from Scripture. And every one of those descriptions is of the Antichrist. And every one fits Donald Trump. You didn’t dispute ONE OF THEM. How is it that so many qualities and specific characterizations can fit two separate people?

      Not yet satisfied? Here’s so more for ya….

      Do you know what the name Donald Trump means? KING OF THE WORLD WHO TRIUMPHS THROUGH TRICKERY

      Donald means “King of the World” (look it up)
      trump is defined as deception and falsehood as in trumped-up charges
      trump card is defined: “a playing card of the suit chosen to rank above the others, which can win a trick where a card of a different suit has been led.”
      trump in German (Trump’s nationality) is trumpf which means “triumph” (you can see Trump in the word)
      In fact, Daniel calls the Antichrist a “little horn” which in the original language is a shofar (trump) The Bible literally calls the Antichrist a “trump”. In John chapter 5, Jesus says that the Antichrist will “come in his own name.” Who on this planet is more obsessed with their own name than TRUMP?
      Joel said that the moon would turn to blood before the great day of the Lord. Donald Trump was born on a blood moon.
      The Antichrist is mean “against” and also “in place of” Christ. He will present himself as a messiah figure. Remember the Christmas story?
      Jesus’ mother’s name was Mary. Trump’s mother’s name is Mary. Jesus’ cousin’s name was John. Trump’s cousin’s name is John. Jesus’ aunt’s name was Elizabeth. Trump’s aunt’s name is Elizabeth.

      Trump literally has ceiling after ceiling in his Trump Tower penthouse covered with paintings of the Antichrist (no lie). On his mantelpiece is another painting of the exact same scene. (Kind of rules out a coincidence.)

      The major qualities/characteristics of the Antichrist are as such:
      He’s a man of deception.
      He’s a man of mockery.
      He’s a man of excessive boasting.
      He’s filthy rich.
      He’s a very immoral person.

      Daniel also says that he is “more stout than his associates.” He also says that he will come out of nowhere and steamroll right over his opponents.

      The first type of antichrist in the Bible was NIMROD, the great tower builder. Like Nimrod, Trump is the greatest of tower builders. In fact, Trump twice tried to build the tallest building in the world.

      • Yes, Jesus called Judas a devil, because Jesus was God and God knows everything. You are not God, so you cannot state definitively that you are without any uncertainty correct. If you haven’t seen books (like your own) on the antichrist being other people, perhaps you have not searched far enough. Or perhaps you aren’t old enough to have knowledge of these books and they are no longer in print, because people have seen the reality that they weren’t true. I have seen books like yours by the dozens, so don’t think you are the first and only one, because you aren’t. I’ve been at this almost 50 years and have seen everything. I am not going to try to debate you for the reason I expressed in my previous comment. And thank you, but no, I don’t want your book. You are not the only one who is pushing Trump as the antichrist and I’m pretty sure all these other people have put up the same arguments you have on their Youtube video, blogs, etc. You aren’t alone in your hypothesis. Not by a long shot. First it was Obama, and everyone was writing how he fit the bill perfectly. Now it is Trump.

        Personally I will just wait to see who the beast chooses to inhabit and control when the time comes. Until then, there’s no point. BTW, the passage in Joel about the blood moon? It has nothing to do with Trump’s birth date. It is about the event that heralds the day of the Lord and there is much more connected to it than an eclipse. Trust me, you’ll know it when it happens. That is the exact point I was making about people taking the Scriptures and applying them as they want. You proved my point exactly by taking it totally out of context and applying it where God does not. Nor does the Bible say that the antichrist’s mother will be named Mary, his aunt Elizabeth, his cousin John. You are applying things to the antichrist which the Bible does not. These things might be interesting, but they are not Scriptural in applying them to the antichrist, so they are useless. Satan might just be mocking you, because he knows people eat this kind of stuff up and make these claims based on this kind of stuff. Scripture alone is the only thing that counts. Scripture says he is a demon that comes out of the abyss. End of story.

        • Connie,
          I’m getting to know you better. You make a lot of bald assertions about things with absolutely no specifics to back them up. So…you “see dozens of books like mine.”?? Well, that interesting on two counts. 1.) To my knowledge, you haven’t read my book. 2.) I asked you to name a specific book title and….nothing. Care to take another shot at that?

          As far as “out of print” books are concerned, I’m an antiquarian book collector with books going back hundreds of years. I own one of the largest hymnal collections in private hands. Just because a book is out of print doesn’t mean it is no longer available. Name an out of print book and I’ll send you a purchase link.

          And yes, I have researched this subject (of books naming the Antichrist) quite extensively. In 1995, Robert C. Fuller published a book called, “Naming the Antichrist; the history of an American Obsession,” where he details the history of people who have named the Antichrist. In his entire volume, there is not ONE MENTION of a serious tome profiling the Antichrist from Scripture alongside a contemporary figure, as evidence that he is, without question, the Antichrist. (Such would be quite an oversight on the author’s part if one actually existed.) I have also researched this quite a bit on my own. Can one find titles on Trump and Obama that — from all appearances sake — seem to fall under that criteria? Absolutely. But on closer inspection, those books are merely suggesting so-and-so is a contender, or that they are a “type” of Antichrist. In fact, there is a book out on the market under the same title as this blog. Fact is, people question whether that author is even a Christian. The book is Scripture light and leftist leaning. It’s more of a booklet put out by a liberal to try to influence Evangelicals away from voting for Trump. Bottom line, there are no books that have stated unequivocally that any world leader is the Antichrist by using substantive exegesis from the Bible to back up it’s claim. If so, NAME ONE — Title and author.

          My point about Jesus calling Judas a devil had nothing to do with omniscience versus limited knowledge, but was rather in response to you saying that the Antichrist cannot be Antichrist without being possessed. Clearly, Judas, as just a man, was still called a devil by Jesus. Is Trump fully the Antichrist as he will be? Of course not. That is coming.

          I must explain something to you about “certainty.” Certainty does not presuppose 100% infallible knowledge of any given thing. Only God has that kind of knowledge about anything. Am I certain my mom is truly my mom? Absolutely. Is there a possibility that she isn’t? It is very remote, but I would have to say — yes. (Maybe I was born of a jackal. Antichrist joke.) I do not live my life according to remote possibilities. I live it according to certainties. Is Trump the Antichrist? Yes. Could I be wrong? Yes. I explain all this in the book you have no interest in reading.

          As far as my book just being like what’s on Youtube, it’s absolutely amazing how much you know about my book, having not actually read it. Are you a prophet? (That is some of that sarcasm that I admitted I may occasionally indulge in.) Connie, I can assure you that my book is unlike ANYTHING you’ve seen on Youtube. As far as substance on YouTube tying Trump to the Antichrist, Brother James Key is the only guy I’ve seen that actually teaches from the Bible. (And I’ve scoured YouTube a lot.)

          Regarding Obama — I did not vote for him, nor did I think he was the Antichrist.

          Regarding Joel and the blood moon, I never said the blood moon on Trump’s birthday was a fulfillment of the Joel passage. Neither was Acts 2 a total fulfillment of Joel. But God in His mercy gives types that proceed the anti-type. If you are steeped in eschatology, as you claim, you are well acquainted with typology.

          Does the Bible specifically say the Antichrist’s mother will be Mary, etc. No it does not. But the name Antichrist has two meanings 1.) Against Christ 2.) In place of Christ
          He will present himself as the Messiah. Having a mother named Mary, a cousin named John and an aunt named Elizabeth does not make him the Messiah. But in a world of delusion that the Antichrist will rise to power in, those kind of things well only help him.

          You say Scripture alone is what counts. Amen sister. I have nearly 1000 verses in my book. Definitely not Scripture light. Also, the book is not written as a house of cards where you find one point that’s weak and the whole things comes toppling down. Rather, it is a mosaic. The 2 points you brought up don’t float your boat? You have some 40-50 more that I’ve mentioned in this blog alone. What are the chances they all find there identity in Trump? Apologeticists use statistical improbabilities to prove the Christ is the Messiah all the time. I am using the same method with Trump.

          Just to reiterate, you’re not attacking my book. You’re attacking the “idea” of my book. Truth is, you haven’t read it. And from the sound of things, you don’t plan to. So be it.

      • Dear Brother Johnathan Dane,

        I am, in all true sincerity, simply STUNNED by your well reasoned, cogent articulation of God’s truth concerning Trump’s true spiritual identity as THE Anti-Christ. Your comparative analyses presented here, detailing every aspect of Trump’s wretched, deplorable life, from his shocking amorality as exemplified by unparalleled untruthfulness, pernicious, prideful venality, grossly unethical business practices, to his ancestral/familial origins, are among the most insightful contributions to eschatological knowledge regarding the Anti-Christ i have, frankly, ever read.

        As It would greatly benefit my cognizance of future Trumpian vicissitudes, as well as my general spiritual walk with the Lord, I would surely appreciate your provision of a/the link to purchase your book, as referenced above.

        P.S>I WILL pray daily you remain steadfast and bold in the INCREDIBLY important work the Lord has laid upon your heart. I WILL also pray daily for myself, that i remain inspired to freely espouse the spiritual knowledge you have so convincingly, yet humbly, shared here.

        Thanks so much, & God bless you and yours.

        Your Brother in Christ,

        Michael Arriola

        • Hello Michael,

          I am sincerely moved, encouraged, and humbled by your articulate and thoughtful reply. Your encouraging word came at a time when my church is going through a trial involving some very critical decisions. God is so amazingly faithful to send me reminders of His uncompromising love and provision. Thank you for blessing me in such a profound way.

          I covet your prayers (and everyone’s on this blog.) In this time of warfare, prayer is so important. Knowing I’m “covered” encourages me all the more to press forward.

          I would be honored for you to check out my book. And yes, I pray that it would be a benefit to your walk with the Lord. It is not just on Trump or the Antichrist. Much of my reasoning and examination of the AC comes from a close inspection of his opposite — JESUS CHRIST. Christ must be the Christian’s focus. Christ is the one Who will defeat the forces of darkness that plague this world. Our only hope is in Him.

          I went a little “promotion crazy” when I first posted on this blog. In short, I promised Wayne that I would no longer post direct links. But the book is easy to find. On Amazon, either a search of my name, Jonathan Dane, or the book title, Rise of the Little Horn, will bring up the book in the search results. More importantly though, I desire your continued prayers and friendship. PLEASE PLEASE email me so we can continue to correspond. [email protected]

          God bless you Michael.

          to the praise of Christ ALONE,

          Jonathan

      • Jonathan, I would love to receive a copy of your book. Would you consider sending one to a Canadian?

        • Hey Frances, You mean to tell me that there are Christians in Canada? (kidding). Of course, I will send books to Canada. At some point, every Christian will probably flee to Canada anyway!!

          I need your address. Email it to me and I’ll have a book sent direct from Amazon: [email protected]

          By the way, if you see a large plume of smoke rising from America and you hear a knock on your door, it’s me. Please let me in.

          • Thanks, Jonathan. Yes, there are indeed Christians in Canada. 🙂 I’ve sent you an e-mail message this morning containing my address. P.S. I’ll be listening for that knock. 🙂

    • I appreciate the support you provide whenever you come to my defense Connie. I try not to take things personally although it’s hard sometimes and I sometimes do make mistakes in how I react. I’m definitely not perfect!

  64. My continued refutation of Wane Croley’s conclusions:

    Antichrist, the Ultimate Globalist?

    This one is confessedly more difficult to pin down. It seems to me that we need to start with three questions. Namely:

    1.) What is globalism?
    2.) Accordingly, does the Bible say that the Antichrist is a globalist?
    3.) Is Trump truly an anti-globalist?

    For starters, the word, “globalism” is a modern term because globalism is a fairly modern phenomenon. It is nowhere found in Scripture. I am no expert on global political science. That said, my understanding of globalism is that it is a strategic global cooperation of nation states in all areas of science, commerce, industry, etc. for the betterment of mankind. Globalism is a response to modern-day challenges and advances in technology. The words globalism and globalist are fairly loose terms whose definitions very from person to person by virtue of varying world views and ideals. Yet what all seem to have in common is a cooperative democratic effort between nation states, which leads me to number 2:

    Is this the kind of globalism we see in Scripture? Most definitely there are parallels; particularly in the macro areas of commerce, religion, and so on. But that is where it ends. Biblically, we see a SINGULAR DICTATOR — the Antichrist, ruling over all men with the rest of the nations crying out, “Who can make war with the beast!!!” I’m sorry, that is hardly a view of most “globalists.” (Okay…no doubt, some conspiracy fanatic will chime in about all the dark room, sinister plans of the Bilderbergs or the Rothchilds, etc. SAVE IT, please.) Bottom line: The globalist plans are not to have some dark and sinister world figure running the show. If one wants to argue that that is their TRUE plans, fine. Hard to prove things whispered in secret.

    Lastly, is Trump truly an anti-globalist? (Or even a nationalist?) I would argue this. The ONLY (and I mean ONLY) “ISM” Trump truly believes in is TRUMPISM. Why does Trump appear to be a nationalist? The same reason Trump appears to be anything — because it further supports Donald Trump. Why does Trump say that he’s a Christian? Because Christians put him in power. Had the Atheists put him in power, no doubt, he’d be an Atheist. Trump shoots from the hip. In any given day, he will simply identify with whatever movement or identity or agenda that will move him forward tomorrow. That’s why Trump flip-flops all over the place. (We’ll never know who much he gave to the Clintons.) Is Trump truly an anti-globalist? It depends what day of the week it is and what’s on the agenda for Trump tomorrow. Some days yes, some days, no.

    One thing is for certain. Trump is all about Trump. Trump is all about power. The more he gets, the more he will seek. This won’t stop at the White House.

    • I think Trump is a nationalist, particularly an economic nationalist.

      You’re portraying Trump as the ultimate Machiavellian. We’ll see in 2020 if he can hold onto power.

  65. I-AM-SORRY

    I want to issue an apology to the guests on this thread. The Apostle Paul says (and I’m paraphrasing) that even if one speaks with absolute truth and the voice of an angel and deliverers himself up to the flames as a martyr, but has not love, he is a clanking cymbal. I came into this blog like an unleashed bull dog. I regret that — deeply. I am sorry. I have already issued a private apology to Wayne. I also went WAY OVERBOARD promoting my book. I won’t apologize for that but will confess that it was an unwise move on my part.

    BELOW IS NOT A BACKPEDALING FROM THE STATED APOLOGY ABOVE.

    Without lessening the wrong, please suffer me a bit of background for clarity sake, so that, perhaps, you may understand why I failed the test the Lord presented to me.

    Long story short is that I had been previously going back-and-forth with a devotee of Mark Taylor — a person I consider to be a wolf in sheep’s clothing. This happened on a YouTube post where Taylor was issuing a divine threat to anyone who would dare criticize Donald Trump. This devotee accused me of knowing nothing about Trump beyond what I read from the internet. (I’ve been personally threatened by Taylor followers more than once.) During the “debate”, I noticed that this individual was sounding suddenly “smarter”, so I copied and pasted one of the comments in a Google search. Low and behold, it was this individual who had not only been getting their info from the internet, but was, in fact, plagiarizing it in our conversation!! That Google query led me to this article/blog. Voila!!

    I decided I would go to the source of the plagiarism to learn of the reasons why Trump wasn’t the Antichrist. THIS WAS MY MISTAKE: I should have stopped, taken a breath, and prayed. I did not. Do I believe that the information I posted is biblically sound? YES. But in the process, I was ungracious with Wayne. In our private email exchanges, I found him to be a humble, Christ-like man. Iron sharpens iron and he sharpened me. Thank you Jesus.

    I can be a bull dog. Sometimes that quality is useful, if leashed. Wayne has graciously allowed me to continue to post on here. Am I now just going to lay down and turn into a theological mamby-pamby? NOT ON YOUR LIFE. Will I continue to shoot straight to the point in a blunt fashion at times and even sarcastic if I feel it is appropriate? Perhaps yes. Perhaps no. But know this, I will pay much more attention to my tone with Wayne, my brother in the Lord, and all of you.

    Finally. KNOW THIS. I believe that the Lord has bestowed on me a profound understanding regarding the Antichrist. I AM NOT A PROPHET. NOR AM I A SCHOLAR. Why the Lord has chosen me to be this vessel at such at time as this? — I haven’t a clue. Why am I so passionate about this? Why am I SO BOLD? Why do I go overboard on promoting my book? BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT TO BE A PROFOUND TRUTH THAT PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR. That’s why.

    I am not a professional writer, nor am I in this for the money. My desire is to be a part of a end-time movement of God to call people out of darkness and into the Light of Christ. This battle is not of flesh and blood. This is spiritual warfare. I am suited up and ready to fight. Is Wayne my enemy? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. But I do believe that Wayne, like many other sincere born-again Christians, are misguided. But I believe a time is soon coming when God will remove the veil concerning Trump. When that happens, all hell will break lose. Why? Because many in the church will turn on Trump. He will consider that a betrayal and an attack on his character. (In a sense, he will be correct.) In her interview with Trump, Megyn Kelly asked, “Have you ever been personally wounded by someone?” His reply? “IF I’M EVER WOUNDED BY SOMEONE, I HIT BACK REALLY HARD SO I CAN UNWOUND MYSELF.” If you praise Trump, he’ll love you. But if you turn on him, be assured, you’re on his sh*t list.

    Get ready Church. Do you want to know why I am so passionate and so bold? Because I know what’s around the corner — AND IT AIN’T PRETTY. Hold onto seats folks, this is gonna get rough.

    • It is good that you apologise to Wayne- his articals contain scripture and varying viewpoints. He is careful to not offend anyone, a practice we could all model, as well as not to give his own personal opinions so as not to offend anyone of a different view point, Wayne can even be a little annoyingly close to the vest with his views, lol. As someone who can also be a bit of a “bulldog” it is important to remember that we are called to treat our brothers and sisters in Christ with love, mercy, kindness… NOT sarcasm. An apology might also be in order for Connie- she too backs up her claims, as you say, with scripture. You may want to look into her blog, which she does not promote here, as it is full of scriptually backed articles. I, too, realize the time is short, I believe we all do. It is for this reason, among others (Chief among them being Jesus called us to) that we should be continuing to grow in Christ by having love and respect for others. Christians lost the cultural war a good bit because we didn’t show our love to others. The comments reflected here, should it be an outsider looking in, do not reflect love, patience or kindness. We are to be known by our fruits and our love for others. God hates a boastful mouth and heart. It should go without saying that you catch more flies with honey- share the honey of the Word and your book will need no touting. Much love to you as a sister in Christ!

      • Hi Lauren,

        I agree with the tenure of your reply. I hope my apology is evidence of love.

        Please understand a few things. Just because one’s post contains Scripture and varying viewpoints (as you say in your first sentence above) does validate them. The same is true for my posts. Jehovah’s Witnesses articles contain Scripture as well. But that does not make them correct.

        Regarding sarcasm, there is a proper place for everything. The Apostle Paul used sarcasm on his Corinthian brethren when they were in error. I regard Wayne as my brother and told him so. But I also regard some of his argumentation as intellectually dishonest; like when he quoted Trump telling his security, “Don’t hurt the protesters.” as evidence that he doesn’t encourage violence. That is a blanket mischaracterization of Donald Trump — a person who has repeatedly promoted violence at his campaign rallies.

        Regarding Connie, you say she backs up her claims. Yet she has personally made claims concerning my book. 5 times I asked her to back up her accusations with easily provided evidence and no such evidence was ever forthcoming. Where was your message to her to issue an apology to me for such a false mischaracterization?

        Lauren, we are in a time of spiritual warfare — the end of days. Yes, we are called to love the brethren (and even our enemies). But there is also an appropriate time for correction, admonishment and even rebuke. Paul withstood Peter to his face –publicly.

        I am convinced that Donald Trump is the Antichrist and am suited up with armor to defend that view. Wayne has publicly stated the opposite. One of us is stating the truth and the other is deceiving (albeit perhaps unintentionally.) I will love him — but as one who is spreading error to the flock of God. You say the time is short. Very true. When the time was short for Christ, Jesus publicly renounced the religious leaders of His day, calling them “white-washed tombs” (Matt. 23). Sometimes love wounds (Prov. 27:6).

        The end of your message implies that I have a boastful mouth and heart. Yet, you provide no examples to back up such a severe accusation (pride was the downfall of Lucifer).

        I cannot respond to bald assertions. I am in a period of trying to promote my book because I feel it contains an important message. I am not aware of ever touting my own abilities in the writing of the book. In fact, I make it clear that I have no literary or seminary background. If I have committed wrong, testify to the wrong. Bald assertions are not examples of spreading honey — they’re just assertions.

        Much love to you as well dear sister,

        Jonathan

        • I do not believe Trump is the Antchrist, but what I believe about this does not matter. Time will reveal whether what you claim is right or wrong. I will say I admire your boldness to speak about what you believe. Should it end up that you are wrong about Trump, my prayer for you is that you will not lose your boldness. I agree with you that what is around the corner is not going to be pretty. Such boldness will be required.

        • Sir I am sorry but due to time restraints and a lack of continued interest I do not have time to go through each and every comment you have made to show you how arrogant, disdainful, rude and sarcastic you have been. Your own words are your example. I will instead occupy my time in a more beneficial way- praying for the scales to be removed from your eyes. If there is any merit to your book it will reach no one until then. I do however appreciate your usage of “bald” so much better than “bold” 😉

  66. The comments ordering issue appears to have been caused by the separation of comments into pages. That’s been disabled, so now the comments should be easier for people to follow. The comments are “lazy loaded” so as you scroll down more should begin to appear.

  67. Hey Wayne,

    I noticed that new comments are shoved all the way back to the last page of the blog. That seems like a blog killer to me. (I’ve honestly never seen that before.) What’s the point of someone leaving a comment if people have to scroll through countless pages to see it? (That will never happen.) Essentially, new comments are invisible (unless a reply to a previous comment.) Can you talk to the site administrator to see if that can be remedied? New comment should always be at the front of the line. (Like Youtube, Facebook format)

    • The comment system on this site has been messed up for awhile. I’ve been thinking of trying a different comments system or just eliminating comments all together. It’s getting harder to manage the comments section, I’m being hit with increasing amounts of SPAM and trolls, and I don’t always have the time to issue proper responses. I’m prayerfully considering what’s best…

  68. My continued refutation of Wayne Croley

    A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF CHARISMA

    Croley’s quote: “Trump is a skilled speaker, but he is not close to being as charismatic as the Antichrist will be. As I’ve stated previously, I imagine Antichrist to be even more charismatic than Adolf Hitler…Trump does not possess the charisma that Hitler possessed and the charisma that Antichrist will possess.”

    This is so easy to refute, it’s child’s play. Name me ONE PASSAGE in all the Bible that says the Antichrist is charismatic. Just one. He’s make this up right out of whole cloth.

    • Daniel 7:8, 20: “(8) I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. […] (20) And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.”

      • Hey Wayne,
        You might want to do a little comparative study with some other translations. The “great things” the Antichrist speaks are not great things “in and of themselves” but rather great things “of himself.” The NASB makes this distinction: “this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth uttering great boasts.”

        You’re supporting my conclusion. This is all Trump.

        • Trump is currently the president, so we won’t have to wait long to see whether your arguments concerning Trump are correct. Thankfully, we won’t have to wait 100 years to see!

          • You are correct Wayne. I have four chapters that deal with the time period of 2023-2027. It is approximately 2000 years (minus 7 years for the Tribulation) from the death and resurrection of Christ. So many were deceived into thinking the time period just before the Y2K was significant because it was 2000 years from Christ’s birth; not knowing of course that it was His resurrection that started the new age of grace, not His birth. Trump will be re-elected. It is in his second term or soon after when the beginning of the end will come. Time is short—hence my urgency.

          • That’s right, Wayne. And so far, my projection of 2023-2027 appears right on the money as the wounded beast prepares his re-emergence onto the world stage, a stage based on pure fiction.

    • Hey Jonathan, I think after reading through this whole thread you might be the anti Christ, your arrogance is unreal and the way you communicate with people is so disrespectful. Actually you cant be the anti christ you have the charisma of a paper bag.

      • Robbie t, you have the kindness of someone who has a log in both eyes. When you learn not to insult someone, then you might be ready to remove the spec from your brother’s eye.

  69. My continued refutation Wayne Croley

    THE PEAK OF ARROGANCE

    Croley’s quote: “Trump is a very prideful man, but does anyone seriously think that he is so arrogant that he would demand the world to worship him and order the deaths of anyone who refuses to worship him?”

    Short answer: Yes

    Croley again is showing not only his lack of biblical knowledge but also a lack of history in general. When Hitler was coming up in the ranks in Germany during 1920’s and 30’s, he was also a populist reformer with a pro-Germany message. Snopes.com says, “A prominent theme during the Nazi Party’s ascendancy was restoring Germany to its former greatness, and Adolf Hitler used the phrase “make Germany great again” upon occasion.” Hitler was a friend to the Church and referred to himself initially as a Christian. British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, signed the Munich Pact with him. Would anyone have DREAMED at that time that Hitler would have committed such horrible atrocities during the Holocaust? Heaven’s no. Hitler did not start out as “Hitler.”

    If anyone in history is labeled a worse person than Hitler, it would have to be Judas Iscariot. But how did Judas start out? How did others perceive him? Yes, Christ in His omniscience knew him to be “a devil.” But what of the apostles? Even at the Last Supper when Jesus said that one of them would betray him, did they all look over at Judas? Hardly. Even though he secretly stole from the money bag, he was entrusted with it with no complaints from the Apostles. They went out, two by two, and cast out demons. JUDAS DID AS WELL!!! Can you even imagine what the Mark Taylor crowd would do if Trump cast out a demon? And yet — Judas turned. Satan came into him. He wasn’t the only one. The masses shouted Hallelujah King of Kings one week and a week later were shouting, “Crucify Him!!!”

    So again—could I imagine a Satan-filled Trump ordering people to worship him? Oh my Lord. He is already seeking worship. Folks, WAKE UP!!! Why do you think that Trump CONTINUES to give large stadium rallies filled with his most loyal supporters? Because he seeks worship! That’s why.

    As far as Trump ordering the deaths of people that don’t worship him, I have countless stories and quotes that support Trump having this kind of mindset in my book, RISE OF THE LITTLE HORN. I’ll leave just one here. Trump has in the past stated that he will order the assassination of terrorist’ families. (His said nothing of the word–guilty.)

    Croley’s quote: “If you watch Trump’s rallies you will notice that he will occasionally call for the ejection of vocal opponents but at the same time tell the officials ejecting them to not harm them.”

    This quote I believe betrays Croley’s tacit support of Trump. This is, at best, a misleading statement. FACT: Trump is made statements as they were escorting protesters out such as: “Boy, I’d like to punch him right in the nose. ” & “In the old days, they’d be going out on a stretcher folks, I gotta tell ya.” Trump also offered to pay the legal fees of anyone who might be tempted to rough up the protesters.

    This statement of Croley bespeaks one of two things: Either he is way uniformed concerning Trump or he is flat out dishonest.

    If you want to see plenty of information on Trump’s tendencies towards violence and self-worship, please check out the website for my book, RISE OF THE LITTLE HORN. (Also available on Amazon)

    https://riseofthelittlehorn.com/

    • You and I have different views of Trump. That’s for sure! As for the quote, Trump did say things that you mentioned at rallies early in his campaign. But in later campaign rallies, his language softened dramatically. At the time I originally wrote this article, Trump’s language had softened dramatically.

      Why have large rallies now? I think Trump is most comfortable speaking to crowds of non-politicians and not reading off a teleprompter. It reinvigorates him and probably gives him a “rush” that he probably misses if he hasn’t done it in awhile. He probably enjoys the adoration as probably a lot of people would if they were in that position.

      • Wayne, just a few days ago Donald Trump called Chuck Todd a son of a b****. He also insulted several people. I’m not sure what Rally’s you are listening to or watching, but the ones I have seen in recent days, Trump is just as wicked and vile as he was during the campaign. The only difference is, there aren’t protesters around for him to get angry and hateful with, and then call on his supporters to beat up. So, no, I strongly disagree with you that Trump has softened.

        And just a shout out to my brother Jonathan Dane, it looks like the internet has brought us together again. Kind of strange how you’re the only person that I inadvertently keep crossing paths with on the internet.

  70. My continued refutation of Wayne Crowley

    THE DESIRE OF WOMEN

    Crowley’s quote: “Daniel 11 indicates that the Antichrist will not be someone who will desire women in his life”

    Mr. Crowley, you need to read the text a little more carefully. Is that what that verse really says? Let’s examine the verse.

    “Neither shall he regard (the God of his fathers, nor) the desire of women, (nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.”) (Dan 11:37)

    For the sake of clarity, I put the first and last clauses in parenthesis because our focus has not to do with the gods of the Antichrist, but rather the desire of women. When removed altogether, the verse reads: “Neither shall he regard the desire of women”

    Question: What is the object of this clause? Women or their DESIRE? Clearly, it is their desire. It does not say he does not desire women. Rather, it say he does not regard (care about, give attention to) the desire (the wants, the ambitions, the aspirations) OF women.

    Donald Trump is a sociopath. A sociopath’s concern for women extends to the woman merely as a trophy to show off. Donald Trump was quoted as saying, “”You know, it doesn’t really matter what [they] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.” (Esquire Magazine 1991)

    I give many more examples of Trump’s disparaging attitude towards women in my book, RISE OF THE LITTLE HORN.
    https://riseofthelittlehorn.com/

    • Hi Wayne,

      Thanks for responding. I wasn’t implying that you were a lightweight. It was a statement about me, not you. I am not an Antichrist hunter. I did not think Obama was the Antichrist–ever. Nor Reagan or Gorbachev. The book I have written stands alone — trust me. It’s one thing for people to add the letters up in a person’s name, claiming so-and-so is the Antichrist. It’s quite another to write a 400-page book detailing it as a profile from the Bible. I pull from nearly 1000 verses of Scripture. There is not another book written to compare it to. I would LOVE to send you a complimentary copy. You seem like an open-minded person. Interested?

    • We can agree to disagree here.

      I think Daniel 11:37 more likely reflects the Antichrist’s reaction towards the advances of women who want to be with him. I think of Hitler in this regard. Hitler was the most desired man in Germany during much of his reign with his hypnotic effect on people. He could have any woman he wanted. In public, Hitler would say something along the lines of “I’m married to Germany”. He had a mistress (Eva Braun) but he spent very little time with her (up until the end of the war when he did marry her I guess as a “reward” for her loyalty). She was so neglected by Hitler that she tried to kill herself on multiple occasions from the loneliness she felt. I think Antichrist is likely to neglect the advances of women too since he is likely to be focused on accumulating power on his path towards becoming the world’s ruler.

      • Bottom line: You say Daniel 11:37 “reflects the Antichrist’s reaction towards the advances of women who want to be with him.”

        I say, “Neither shall the Antichrist regard the DESIRE of women” (He cares little for what women care about; i.e. their desires.)

        I guess we let the readers read the text for themselves and decide who is reading the text and who is reading into the text.

    • the Context is about gods. So the desire of women is the Virgin Mary. They put her in high regard with their high esteem and devotion to her. Some women just need some god they can call their own to suit their Value in the Male dominated account of the bible story.

  71. As promised, I said I would be addressing the author’s comments. I don’t do anything lightweight. (My book on this subject, RISE OF THE LITTLE HORN, is some 400 pages.)

    Croley’s comment: “Trump is the farthest thing from being viewed as a messianic figure by the world.”

    For starters, that’s not quite accurate. Many of Trump’s followers in the Christian community are hailing Trump as a KING. They refer to Trump’s “reign.” People such as Mark Taylor are issuing heavenly threats to those who would even criticize their god-man.

    Watch Trump’s reception around the world in such places as Saudi Arabia and Israel. The Saudis honored Trump with their highest honor. Israel has issued a coin with Trump’s head overlapped onto the head of King Cyrus. Rabbi’s are calling in Israel are calling on him to build the Jewish third temple.

    What is the first reason Crowley gives that Trump is not a messianic figure? He’s polarizing. Let me see if I understand Crowley correctly. So, if someone happens to be a polarizing, he cannot be a messianic figure? This is laughable. Question: Who has been the most polarizing figure in the history of mankind? JESUS CHRIST — the MESSIAH.

    Regarding Rev. 6:1, I agree with Croley that that is a reference to the Antichrist. But he makes one gigantic and fatal flaw. HE’S READING INTO THE TEXT WITH A PRETEXT (preconceived point of view)!

    His quote: “Revelation 6:1-2 depicts Antichrist as a rider on a white horse, which indicates he could be so popular that he will be viewed as a messianic figure by the world.

    I’m sorry. Where does it say ANYWHERE IN THAT VERSE that the Antichrist will be “so popular”. It’s not there. In fact, THERE IS NOT ONE VERSE IN ALL OF THE BIBLE that says the Antichrist will be well-liked, or charming, or charismatic. Do know where people get this from? THE MOVIES. It’s not in Scripture.

    Is the Antichrist a polarizing figure? Yes — absolutely. In fact, you are either for him, or you are against him. Those how are against him will either be killed with the guillotine or in battle. In Daniel, we see the Antichrist uprooting three kings. And towards the end of his reign, the nations of the world will turn against him in the battle of Armageddon.

    Crowley’s quote: “Trump will never command the admiration of the world like the Antichrist will.”

    Really now? And how might you know this, sir? Again, THE ANTICHRIST WILL NOT BE LIKED. HE WILL BE WORSHIPED AS A GOD. Why? Because, at some point in the near future, the Devil will approach Donald Trump, just as he approached Jesus Christ in the desert. He will offer Trump the kingdoms of the world. Unlike Christ, Trump (the Antichrist) WILL ACCEPT. At that point, YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR, TRUMP WILL BE AS A GOD WITH SUPERNATURAL POWER. He will harness all the satanic wisdom and deception that is inherent in Lucifer. And yes, people will bow down and worship him. To not do so, will mean death. And the fringe benefits inherent for all in the Mark of the Beast will be irresistible to all but the saints.

    For more exhaustive biblical support on why Trump is indeed the Antichrist, please check out my book. RISE OF THE LITTLE HORN https://riseofthelittlehorn.com/

    • It’ll be quite the feat for Trump to overcome the attacks of the media, the deepstate, including the Democrats who want to impeach him and the establishment Republicans who try to sabotage him legislatively, to become world ruler. I don’t see that happening, but time will tell…

      You are correct in linking the analogy of Jesus in the desert being tempted by Satan to Antichrist. Antichrist will accept the offer that Satan will present.

        • The rider on he white horse in rev 6 are Christian end time preachers, Christ’s body, that’s why the white horse. I believe this is also the man child of rev 14, who will be calling the bride. She is the woman is rev 14, who will listen to Christ’s body of believers,and be protected in the wilderness, away from antichrist. There she will prepare herself. The apostate Christians will reject this body of believers as they are a threat to the Christian establishment. They will follow after the antichrist, who I believe, yes, is Trump. But that part doesn’t matter, but you have to admit the Christians support Trump because Trump empowers them. But he will turn against them mid trib

      • Wayne, I believe Jonathan is correct. There cannot be a more obvious antichrist because Trump is prideful and brags like nobody’s business. He will take care of the dems and dissenting repubs in time, as well as the “deep state”. And very importantly, he is hugely supported by the Christians (apostasy coming. Trump can practically do no wrong with them. The stage is set.) as for women, his hatred must be growing because of Stormey Daniels and other “bitches” who are trying to out all these poor men. Women have never been taken this serious, never believed like this before in history. Trump will turn back that me too movement

        • Trump has a huge ego. I am not denying that. It would do him a lot of good to be more humble, apologetic, and to behave better around women. With that said, I believe the Antichrist’s ego will be MUCH greater than his. In other words, I believe there will be someone MUCH worse than him coming in the future.

  72. Donald Trump is, most definitely, without a doubt, THE Antichrist that will bring in Armageddon. I was made aware of this in March of 2016 when God laid it, very powerfully, on my heart and mind. It was then that I started my book, now published, called RISE OF THE LITTLE HORN. The book was written before the elections in the summer of 2016.

    I will be posting quite a bit on this site. I welcome any and all challengers to my point of view. Respectively, I disagree with Wayne Croley. I will address his points, one at a time.

    Before I do, I would like you to consider an excerpt at the beginning of my book. It is a profile of the Antichrist. I unpack every single point (and then some) in my book. Who does this sound like to you?

    THE EMERGENCE

    A man with no military or political experience announces his run for the most powerful seat in the world. His promise? GREATNESS. He controls the flow of money, and is head over a military that is unmatched in the world. He is consumed with winning politically and fortifying his strongholds. Though initially thought of as a minor threat by his associates, he truly towers over them. He demolishes them by means of abusive and slanderous speech, tears down the character of those who oppose him and flatters and elevates those who admire him. He rises up as if by sheer will. He is an alpha male who plots and manipulates anything and everything to take down his opponents. He is seemingly unstoppable. To the utter amazement of the world, he succeeds at nearly everything he does, despite his lack of deep personal conviction on any issue except self-aggrandizement. His narcissistic pride is evident to all as he continually boasts, exaggerating his achievements and financial worth. He is characteristically disingenuous, so deftly twisting the truth that deceit becomes the norm rather than the exception.

    An aura emanates from him that seems to delude people’s thinking; making those―seemingly intelligent―unable to discern truth from falsehood. At some point, these deluded masses begin to view good things as evil and evil things as good. He is untamable, doing whatever he pleases. These characteristics cause other world leaders to fear him. He shows little regard for the support of women, yet boasts of his various adulterous relationships. Despite his inflated claims, he does possess considerable wealth, which he unabashedly flaunts; wealth accumulated through real estate holdings and building projects. Hailed as the consummate praised man of the city, he is a builder of great high towers, bedecked with precious stones and gold. He is obsessed with his name and plasters it on everything he touches.

    He is cunning and shrewd; playing his enemies like a game of cards. He is vicious in his desire to win. The concepts of grace and forgiveness find no place in him. Violence follows him wherever he goes; even to the killing of innocents who stand between him and his goals. His false show of religion gains the trust of people of faith―deluding them. He comes to power through the “simple folk” who have been discarded as insignificant. His supporters are unwavering in their commitment, for they worship the ground he walks on. His rise to power coincides with a political uprising and defection. Many will leave their former political affiliations.

    His ascension comes at a time of worldwide financial, social, religious, military and civil upheaval. But he will promise to restore law and order, and to soon put an end to crime and violence; a few of many extravagant promises he will never keep. He will establish an extreme vetting process to prevent illegals from gaining access. He will seek the wealth of Iraq as Russia shows signs of escalating military aggression towards the Middle East. Known for his ability to make deals, he promises to make a peace deal between Israel and her surrounding enemies. He plans a restructure of the balance of power in Europe in order to fight terror. The earth will be in global flux.

    Who do these paragraphs describe? This portrait was penned thousands of years ago. It is a biblical word picture of the most evil, ruthless killer of all time; a tyrant who will draw the world into the last great mega-battle known as Armageddon. The Bible refers to this man as the Son of Perdition, the Man of Sin, the Wicked One, the Worthless Shepherd, the Beast, the LIE, the Adversary, the Spoiler, the Willful King, the Lawless One, the Desolator, and more. This man’s wickedness grows until, eventually, Satan himself will possess him. He is known to most as the Antichrist.

    http://www.RiseOfTheLittleHorn.com

    • Wow, if ever there was someone who was self-promoting, you win the cake. And you do it by trashing someone else. How much do you charge for your insight, sir? Quite honestly, I for one have no interest in buying what you are promoting. The only thing you have offered is your view of Trump, nothing more. And all the liberals will agree with you. So what. Wayne offers a great deal more than that, and he does know his Scriptures. You could learn something by reading some of his other posts.

      • I have not “trash talked” ANYONE. If I have spoken wrongly, then testify to the wrong. But if I spoken the truth, why “trash talk” me? If you have an actual “point” about something I specifically said, I would love to address it. If I have committed a wrong, then by all means, I will stand corrected. But all you have done is attack my character as some sleazy self-promoter.

        Connie, I don’t know you from Adam. But walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me. You accuse me of attacking someone by, in turn, attacking me. Christ says that before you judge, first remove the log in your own eye. Then you will see clearly to remove the speck in mine.

        Do I promote my book? ABSOLUTELY and unashamedly. I don’t do it because I am a professional author or because I’m in it for the money. I do it because I think it communicates the truth; truth that many would benefit from.

        I was very specific and Bible-based in my comments. If you have a question or critique about something I said, fine. Let’s hear it. If you don’t, I’ll assume my comments stand.

        Finally, regarding Wayne, he seems like a humble Christian man. We have been corresponding by email. There is presently no animosity between us.

        • Jonathan you are so right and I just explained some things to Wayne regarding that. Trump brags more than anyone, he’s ridiculous. Fits the antichrist bill perfectly on so many counts. Would imagine he also hates women and their me too movement and stormey Daniels, and all of them, who are “making trouble” for all these poor men. I don’t care for stormey but many others have valid points and even stormey is not a liar at least, like Trump is. He must want to bounce back all their achievements as this is the only time women have ever been believed and not been blamed for their own abuse, and it probably makes him furious! I knew he would win the election, honestly, because he seemed like the long awaited antichrist and I have been at this prophecy stuff a long time and never before, not ever, thought someone who came before ever was. He’s the first I ever thought that of, it’s him.

      • Hey Connie- based on arrogance alone- do you think the commentator on here may also see himself as the antichrist? I wonder if one were to turn these “attributes” around, would the description maybe also fit some of us? The guessing game is fun but Paul cautions us to only use words for the building up others- not the tearing down of someone you don’t agree with. Aside- I really got a lot from your article regarding milk and women’s meetings, lol. That is the reason people like me aren’t as knowledgeable about things that seem basic at times.

        • Hey Lauren,

          Is this an example of your above reply to me where you said that we Christians should “reflect love, patience or kindness. We are to be known by our fruits and our love for others.”??

          By calling me an Antichrist? Interesting….

          • Sir, you are too disdainful in your speech and do not represent my beliefs and so I will not engage with you further. I simply point out that you may want to re read my comment, so as to be accurate, I merely mused on whether some of your alleged attributes might also apply to not only yourself but also others. I wondered about your arrogance and disdain for others and about how you might want to examine that. There is a way to speak to people and a way not to- your way Sir is not right for being a fisher of men. Check out the comments thread- no one is really responding to your arrogance because it is off putting. Any useful info you have is drowned out by your pride- which both the common man and our Lord equally hate. As for calling you the Anti Christ, well, again, a careful reading of my words would indicate ponderance not statement. I would like to reiterate that I have no further use in discussing anything with you, as the Bible says one is to simply move on and shake the dust from their sandles. You have already proven yourself unwilling to be humble and thus I can see nothing to be gained from further disparaging discourse. I wish you well!!!
            P.S. This would be an example of patience, love and kindness

          • Lauren,

            Your reply is characteristic of the replies I get from followers of Mark Taylor. Rather than discuss any particular points regarding theology (or whatever), they are content with spewing forth invective. I twice read over your comment. The entire reply is nothing more than an attack on my character using bald assertions. How does one respond to a statement like, “You’re just a prideful person, full of disdain for people.” What am supposed to say that? “No, I’m not.”??? Tell me Lauren…. how does one respond to an attack on their character? If I deny it, doesn’t that simply justify my stubbornness and pride in your eyes? Kind of puts me in a lose-lose situation. Does is not?

            In your reply, you say that I am:

            — disdainful
            — not of your beliefs (by that, I assume am not a Christian)
            — arrogant
            — do not speak to people in a “proper” way
            — off-putting
            — prideful
            — one who is against Christ (based on your “shake the dust off” analogy)
            — unwilling to be humble
            — disparaging

            And you end your tirade saying that that is an example of being “patient, loving and kind.” I’ll tell you what — Thank God Almighty I am the recipient of your “love”. Because with love language like that, I surely would not desire to be the recipient of your “hate”!!

            Question for you: Have I treated you like that? Have I disparaged YOUR character as you have mine? It’s REALLY EASY to attack someone’s character with nothing more than bald assertions. You gave NOT ONE EXAMPLE of how I am this disdainful and prideful person, as you claim. Tearing someone down is easy. Lifting them up — not so much. To my knowledge, I have not attacked anyone’s character on here. My target is always a person’s ARGUMENT, never their person.

            I would never to say to a person that they are not to judge. Everybody judges — every day. You have every right to judge me. The Bible doesn’t tell us not to judge. But it does warn us to judge righteously. For how you judge me, the same judgement shall accordingly be poured out onto you. (Matthew 7:2). However, I will stand with the apostle Paul when he said, ” it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you,” (I Cor. 4:3)

            Now — I confessed and apologized for initially coming on too strong on this blog. Since then, I have toned down the rhetoric, for sure. And what’s your response? You “ponder” whether I qualify as the Antichrist. When I called you out on that, you followed up with the above, hateful, reply. That was COMPLETELY unfair and uncalled for. Again, did I EVER characterize you in such a fashion?

            I will admit that I have used “sarcasm” with Connie. Was I being sarcastic, just for the sake of sarcasm? Not at all. Connie said (and I quote) — [” If you haven’t seen books (like your own) on the antichrist being other people, perhaps you have not searched far enough. Or perhaps you aren’t old enough to have knowledge of these books and they are no longer in print, because people have seen the reality that they weren’t true. I have seen books like yours by the dozens, so don’t think you are the first and only one, because you aren’t. I’ve been at this almost 50 years and have seen everything.”]

            I knew the above statement to be false. IT’S A FLAT OUT LIE! I pressured her (sometimes sarcastically) to back up her above statement with evidence. So far, none has been forthcoming. One month later — I am still waiting.

            In the end, if you want to judge me as “this and that kind of terrible person,” have at it. I knew from the beginning that this was the road that I would be traveling, because the Lord told me as much (no…not in audible words.)

            Until such time as Wayne blocks me from this site, or pulls the blog down altogether, I will continue to speak out, AND THAT — BOLDLY AND UNASHAMEDLY. If you perceive this as pride, I am sorry you feel that way.

            If you are so convinced that I am a prideful person, then quietly pray for me. Announcing my supposed shortcomings and sin to the world is not helpful.

        • Lauren, I’ve been unable to access this website for a while, so it took me a while to comment. I’m glad you got a lot from my articles. As for the other issue mentioned first, I have learned that sometimes no matter how much evidence you present to people, if they have their minds made up about something you are just banging your head against a wall, so it is best to walk away from them and ignore their taunts and comments. I see you have just received a dose of “prove it” yourself on one of your comments. Sometimes it is easier to just let people show themselves for who they are just by sitting back and letting them talk and remaining silent yourself. Often the more they talk, the more they verify other people’s comments.

          • I will actually be shooting an email to ya soon Connie- there are some things I’d like to run by you. Yes, once you have been patient with someone, shown them love and kindness, it is best to walk away. Jesus knew the heart and knew not to cast his pearls before swine. After all, you can lead a horse to water…

      • Erin, thanks for your support on here. I don’t want to play the martyr. God didn’t force me down this path. That said, it gets lonely at times. I rejoice to see one person who is supportive. Thank you and God bless you. At the end of the day, the identity that matters most is that Christ truly is the Son of God. In that, I pray, we can all unite.

    • There is buzzing in my spirit. I keep asking God is that me or Him. Jonathan, I requested a book from you via email but I will buy it if I haven’t heard back from you by pay day. Anyways, TODAYS NEWS Trumps green card policy!! It seems you are on to something and from the very beginning, I looked at Trump sideways, bewildered why fellow christians seemed almost giddy to have them as their president. Finally a president that will reestablish good christian morals they say….um what? He has revealed the rot in all of us. The left and the right are working together whether they know it or not. I don’t have any revelations or visions or anything else. For some strange reason I’ve been quickened in my spirit in the last 6 months that the time is NOW. I wonder if that IS the Holy Spirit giving us a heads up. Like a dog with a bone I can’t seem to quit this curiosity, borderline obsession with figuring this all out. As if I actually could. I don’t make bold statements. I usually cower back and withhold any of my opinions for fear of being wrong or offending. But I wanted to comment to Jonathan directly and say he has my attention, I have read every comment prayerfully. I do not see arrogance at all. And I consider myself to be extremely intuitive although, I know that means squat to anyone reading this since I am just a stranger on the internet. Anywho, Jonathan keep on it man.

  73. Another interesting study by Irvin Baxter – Daniel 7 mentions beasts, and verse 17 says that these beasts represent empires. The end of the chapter reads as though these empires are in existence at the time of Jesus’ return.
    The lion with eagle wings plucked off from it – this represents England/Great Britain (a lion is their national animal); and the plucked off eagle wings are America (the eagle is our national bird, and we were plucked off from England/Great Britain. (The verse is 7:4 too – our independence day).
    The 4 headed leopard represents Germany and its 4 Reich. The Holy Roman Empire was the 1st Reich of Germany, the Hohenzollern Germany was the 2nd Reich, and Hitler was the 3rd Reich. The 4th Reich or head is in the making now since the Berlin Wall came down which reunified Germany again. When the wall came down, the Daily Mail said the wound appeared deadly; but it was not – instead it was healed. It was almost word for word from the Bible (Revelation 13). The 4 wings on the leopard represent France (a rooster is one of their symbols) and they are on the leopard (Germany) thus representing the Franco-German relationship. Dominance was also given to the leopard. Germany has been making the Leopard Tanks since WWI.
    The bear – of course – is Russia. The 10 horns – are the dominant EU states.

    In Revelation 13 these same exact beasts of Daniel 7 are mentioned. However in Revelation 13 these beasts are all combined together representing the one-world global government. The “wings of a great eagle” (America) are not mentioned, though, but they are in Revelation 12:14 and they are taking care of Israel for 3.5 years (tribulation).

    I have been watching Trump pull America out of the UN (global government) bit by bit. I have been watching Trump support Israel.
    He is also very intent on accomplishing a peace deal (confirmation of the covenant???). How will it all play out??
    The war that starts at the Euphrates River is brewing too ….

    Time will tell ….. I thought this was a very interesting study …. I thought you might find it interesting too.
    I keep thinking too – Trump may very well be in office for “7” more years – the confirmation of the covenant is for 7 years. Time will tell …. it is all so interesting.

    These dates are all fascinating too. (I’m sure I have already mentioned them somewhere – but they are fascinating!)
    1917 – Balfour Declaration
    50 years later in 1967 – Six-Day War
    50 years later in 2017 – Trump declares Jerusalem the capital
    Every 50 years in the Bible was a Jubilee, and land was returned to the original owner or his descendants.

    In 1948 Israel becomes a nation again, and 70 years later in 2018 Trump is supposed to be moving our embassy to Jerusalem on the date! Fascinating!!!

    • Vicky thank you for your comments in what you learned from Irvin Baxter…I have been watching his program and enjoyed his point of view and which makes sense.

      Like Daniel he was given visions and explanations but did not truly understand 100 percent…so it is the same with us here in the 2018’s…we have many “ideas” that this or that will happen at such a time. It is good that we pay attention to it but we must not loose sight of the most important thing we should be doing–warn our friends who are lost or who have not heard gospel and give them God’s message…before its too late. It is not for us to know exactly when, where, nor how the Anti-Christ comes–we do have a general picture of what he will do—if we pay attention we could perhaps glimpse the possibility of that person (who ever he is) might be the Anti Christ and to be on the high alert keeping our minds, hearts, body focusing on the LORD and what He desires for us to be doing.

      It is good that we can have groups like this discussing God’s Word…may we all be of one accord united in spreading His message, teaching others more about the love of Yeshua (Jesus), fellowshipping with one another while we have the liberty of using the computer for sharing thoughts and encouragement–the time could come when someone in authority could take away this freedom –then we will need to pray for one another.

      I hope to chat via this website more about interesting facts that the LORD has been revealing to many people and how God’s Word re-emphaize His Truth.

  74. Please understand that I mean no disrespect towards you, for you seemed to ne part of the fallen 80%. Col. 6:4-5

    This has given me great sorrow, yet I understand this and feeling my spirit to reach out to the fallen, regardless of their reactions. Most prophecies as in Daniel are not, peole, angels or demon, but timeline, with some exceptions.

    In Daniel 11: 2-31 is also a prime example of this.

    Verse 15
    15 is Russia, the king of the north who invades the Ottoman Empire who is too weak to stand against the Russian forces (starting in 1878) Russia also capture a city and built forts.

    In Verse 16-17 the invader was the United Kingdom 1917 which was the ones who came to an agreement with the Ottoman empire
    and gave a daughter in marriage was the Daughter of Zion. See the Balfour declaration, It was the UK intentions for both sides to destroy each other.

    In verse 18:
    is after WWII as the UK turned their attention to the
    Mediterranean where they captured many European Jewish refugees fleeing to Palestine.

    Verse 19
    19 after the UK lost, the UK returned to their own country, where they stumbled and fell to no longer be the UK.

    You are sorely mistaken when you came to Revelation chapter 6 for if you open your eyes this is recognizable as a timeline and nothing about Trump.

    The 1st seal is of the white horseman who is given a crown (Indian Chief’s headdress?) who has a bow with no arrow; I see this as a timeline as we see a powerless king. This is a recognizable event that lasted a long time (abt 1830-1917)’s Manifest Destiny in which
    President Andrew Jackson in 1830 had ordered the new law of Manifest Destiny in which the U.S. had set out to north America, in which included Northern Mexico, the Caribbean an parts of the Pacific Ocean, which white American white thought it was their god given right (so he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest. The
    This was the 2nd seal is of the Red horseman I believe that represented WWI from at least 1917 to 1918, (Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other . This is an example of armies fighting each other. (to him was given a large sword)..

    The 3rd seal is of the Black horseman I believe this time period starts after the after WWI ended and the European allies sought to harshly punish the German people from 1919 through 1939. (Its rider was holding a pair of scales which represents the starvation of Germany and then the rest of the world. The second part I believe represents Hitler’s Germany, as he put Greece under his thumb, as Greece had a 70% export rate of several Items including Olive Oil and Wine. Which Nazi Germany used to rebuild their country?

    The 4th seal is of the last of the four houseman whose rider was on the pale horse and his name was named Death and Hades followed.
    They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword,
    famine and plague and by the wild beasts of the earth. I believe this represents WWII (1939-1945), which not only slaughter millions of soldiers but civilians a like. We can easily see that this battle field could be seen to affect a forth of the earth which included much of the
    seas as well.

    The 5th seal is of the believers seen under God’s alter in heaven.

    The 6th seal is believed to be the Israel becoming a nation in disbelief which happened in 1948. , as this scripture spoke of a shaken leaf in a strong wind . In Matthew 24 : 32-35 (32 ” Now learn this lesson from the fig tree : As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out , you know that summer is near . 33 Even so , when you see all these things , you know that it is near , right at the door . 34 Truly I tell you , this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened . 35 Heaven and earth will pass away , but my words will never pass away . About trump, your observations are wrong for a man who while off script, finds that he gets easily distracted where his aids get him refocus. When on script, the alt right is responsible in destroying our democracy. He is so distracted that is cheat sheet where it said things to encourage gun violence victims was visible to the cameras showing his lack of empathy.

    PRIDE & EGO

    This he has continually demonstrated as he loves to boast and be worshiped. He demands loyalty!

    MIDDLE EAST PEACE NEGOTIATOR AND CHARASMATIC LEADER

    He has demonstrated and proclaimed, he alone can get things done.

    THE PEAK OF ARROGANCE

    He was considered Cyrus the great, which he seems happy to accept.

    THE DESIRE OF WOMEN

    He wants all desirable woman and he wishes that he himself would be king of the world as he has hinted about himself being like a god.

    THE PEAK OF ARROGANCE

    After moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem, it’s only a matter of time.

    A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF CHARISMA AND THE ULTIMATE GLOBALIST

    (Revelation chapter 13 says it all, likeness of a Leopard, feet of the Russian Bear and a mouth of a lion. He has boasted and express world dominance as he admires dictators and presidents for life, as he wishes it for himself.

    TRUMP RECOGNIZING JERUSALEM AS ISRAEL’S CAPITAL

    This is yet to come due to the desire of 80% who wants to force Christ to return, to the damnation of their soul, unless they repent and turn from their sins.

    Your conclusion is just misguided!.

      • To each his own, for time will tell and if Trump is the one, which I pray I’m wrong, we’ll know for sure.

        Explain to me one thing. If you think Trump is the White horseman, why doesn’t he have arrows with his bow, for as per today, he has plenty of arrows with bow and was never elected king, though time will tell. Why no arrows?

      • I too understand and read scripture as well as in the book Daniel, Book of Matthew and Revelation as well as others. I’ve been well verse qs a Messianic Jew since February 19, 1977. I’m not judging you, but just trying to reason with you as the spirit of God moves in us! Daniel 11 is a perfect prophetic historical timeline.

        Tell me another thing. in that if the Tribulation didn’t happen how can you explain 3 things. 1 Israel becoming a nation in disbelief in 1948, 2 Chernobyl happened in April 1986, which when translated in English means Wormwood Star and radiation poisoning can explain bitter waters and many have died, from some reports have it from 30,000 to 1,000,000 and 3 the damming of the Euphrates river. Also in Matthew 24 where Jesus mentioned when Israel becomes a nation (in which how did he know as well as others). He said that would be the last generation. Most theologian who believe this, say that we are in a 120 year count down clock that started in 1948 (we are currently approaching year 70) . So if these happened prior to what you believe that the Tribulation hadn’t happened, what say you to this?

      • If I’m right and your wrong, your helping to blind many to the possible truth. If I’m right and your, wrong, as pastors, you’ll be responsible for your flock. All I’m doing is suggesting a possibility, though I don’t say I’m right, but that it could be a possibility. It seems to me that your speaking in absolutes!

        • This is meant for Wayne Croley. I’d wish you would answer my questions, for they are very important? I’m giving you a chance to admit, your speaking in absolutes and want to correct that. Or if your not speaking in absolutes, then you need to correct the fact, for in other postings it seems you are., Now if your wrong, what would happen to you when you go before God. For me, I’m not speaking in absolute, though I pray I’m wrong, for we have a way off in the count down clock!

          • I do not believe that Trump is the white horseman of the first seal. I’m not sure how you thought that I did.

            The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 is significant because it has enabled many to migrate there. In the end times, the people of Israel will be scattered from the land of Israel to places around the world. Its creation helps to set up the arrival of the end times, but its creation is not a sign that we are within the seventieth week of Daniel or in the last generation.

            Chernobyl isn’t Wormwood. Wormwood will impact 1/3 of the water WORLDWIDE. You’d likely have tens of millions of people dying from drinking the waters from the aftermath of the third trumpet.

            The Euphrates River is not dried up like what is described in Revelation 16. The world will be in a much worst state than it is now when the Euphrates dries up as indicated by what Revelation 16 describes in terms of the first five vials.

            Many people misconstrue the parable of the fig tree when they link it to the creation of the state of Israel in 1948 and the last generation. I have an article on that at the following link:

            https://www.prophecyproof.org/2018-rapture-parable-fig-tree/

            I am not trying to lead people astray. I am trying to help people. I look at events as objectively as I can without sensationalizing them. Many Bible prophecy commentators sensationalize events these days. I try not to be that way. I’ve dealt with people over the years who have been unnecessarily worried about events because they heard someone else misusing Scripture to hype an event.

            I don’t speak in absolutes. I speak in likelihoods. I am not a prophet. I don’t even know what I’m having for dinner tomorrow, so I’m definitely no prophet. If I make a definitive statement, it’s based on what I find Scripture to support.

            You may disagree with me on many things concerning the end times. If so, I hope we can at least agree to disagree.

          • Dear Wayne Croley

            Thank you for getting back to me.

            1. I read to quick and we both agree that Trump isn’t the white horseman nor could he.

            2. According to Daniel 11:41 (He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand.) I doubt the jew will once again go throughout the world again, though for those like me still not in Israel. But Jews who had survived getting south after the anti-christ goes hog wild in Jerusalem, the only places that are under God’s protection is Edom, Moab and Ammon as per what I know it the Word of God, if the interpretation is True..

            3 I disagree for when radiation spreads up into the clouds, it spreads farther then the 30 or so km’s. When the rain from the radiate clouds pour down to the ground and waters, it’s not contain within the immediate area. So this would make it possible to injure the upwards to 2,000,000 people that are infected as between the 30,000 to 1,000,000 deaths. So here’s is a link to what it looked like as the radiation spread and tell me if it’s not possible that a third of the earth couldn’t had been affected by Chernobyl? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU4_bJT8W3Y

            4 https://www.britannica.com/media/full/595616/546 google maps of the Euphrates https://www.google.com/maps/place/Euphrates/@33.2771514,46.8603657,8z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x3fdcd9745f38c1e5:0x685e3334f33f66e8!8m2!3d35.2764957!4d42.6289045river and if this is any indication, do you think there is enough room for massive armies of 200,000,000?

            5. About the fig tree, is a biblical recognition throughout both the New and Old Testament Bible of the meaning of the nation or the People of Israel.. But yes one can either accept or deny anything they want, but for me, I follow hard after the Word of God, for I’ve found the Word to be true, though many doubt. Remember the Word is true, though the interpretation can be questionable.

            6. I’m not judging you of if you are or aren’t helping or hurting the children of God as well as others who don’t know what we know. Col 4:5-6. All I was saying, is to do all things through fear and trembling when it comes to spreading the Word of God and that we are careful in what we share is true. Never take lightly what we share. When ever I share something, I always let the reader know that though this may be my opinion, I can’t say it for 100% that I’m right. Though what I’ve seen in the book of Daniel 11:2-31, I can’t say if it is in deed Trump. I pray that it isn’t, though in time, we’ll know for sure as it seems to be happening sooner than later. May 2018 the US Embassy will be opening and so indeed it may be sooner. Again I pray I’m wrong. unless God revealed it to me, you or someone else otherwise. For now I see as through a see in a mirror darkly 1 Cor 13

            7. {I’ve dealt with people over the years who have been unnecessarily worried about events because they heard someone else misusing Scripture to hype an event.} I too can say the same for the last 41 years that God give me discernment as I’m sure He gave you as well.. The Bible tells us to test what we hear and not to take it at face value! (paraphrase).

            8. {I don’t speak in absolutes. I speak in likelihoods. I am not a prophet. I don’t even know what I’m having for dinner tomorrow, so I’m definitely no prophet. If I make a definitive statement, it’s based on what I find Scripture to support.} This is good to hear, though some of what I’ve read, did seem to say otherwise. All I’m saying it’s good to preface what your saying isn’t an absolute. As I’m saying, I’ve seen worse, and a friendly reminder is just that. I would pray you’d do same for me. This is why I asking questions.

            9. On the last part, it’s not that it matters if I do or don’t agree, what does matter is that we defend our faith when asked and for those reading be encourage to ask the right questions. With this said, I enjoyed talking with you and that we be willing not to allow ourselves to be surprised and ready and able to admit if we are wrong and pray that God gives us the wisdom to know better. I’m saying this to myself as I’m saying this to you as well as the ones who reads our exchange

            10. Sorry for my poor grammar, for I suffered from the 1960’s lousy NYC Education system who didn’t give me an IQ test when I was 6 and I suffered the lost of 5 years of formal education. So please forgive me for English is my weakest subject. Sincerely Edward Blume

          • Where is what I posted? I put a lot into answering your questions and not to be allowed for readers to read is not for me to suffer! But your readers will think you said had scared me away which you know it isn’t true! Unless you post what I wrote, your showing only what you want to show, which is one sided.

          • Sorry about that. That was the comment system holding the comment for me to review (which I didn’t see until now). Nothing nefarious. It happens from time to time with others.

          • Okay and I thank you for re-posting my response to yours. I have no problem you taking time to look over anyone post, for that’s your privilege and job, I appreciate that it would still be posted as I respectfully answer our written exchange for other readers have a right to see as we can both educate them that there are different opinions out there that give each person a more wider view of what happening and also may happen. After reading our exchange, they can then pray to God and ask Him what to believe, or even if not to believe us as well.

            Thank you for understanding my difficulty when it comes to my grammar.

            The two links I had giving you are both interesting if not alarming.

            1. The first shows the affect of the spread of radiation caused by the explosion at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power plant (Wormwood Star which is the English translation of the Russian word for Chernobyl, whether one thinks it is in Revelation 8:10-11 or not.). This link clearly show that it is indeed possible due to the weather pattern that can spread the radiation throughout parts of the world.

            2. If my insertion on Revelation 8:10-11 of Chernobyl being the manifestation of that scripture and Revelations 9:13-16 of the spiritual and the heavenly view of what has now happened with the Euphrates River as well as Revelations
            6:13, Matthew 24:32-35, Daniel 11:31 and others which states that the 3rd temple will be built and so this claim has also been made possible as Israel became a nation in 1948. This is not only just about a fig leaf or fig tree reference as per Revelation 6:13, Matthew 24:32-35 as well as other scriptures.

            My assertions aren’t my personal opinions, but what God’s Word actually states and has been proven out in our history.

            Here is a link of what is possible as some are waiting for the US Embassy being moved to Jerusalem and what they desire to do in regards to a third Jewish Temple and how fast can Animal sacrifice could begin:

            http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2017/12/trump-moves-u-s-embassy-to-jerusalem-and-so-fulfills-bible-prophecy/

            https://www.timesofisrael.com/laying-the-groundwork-for-a-third-temple-in-jerusalem/

            https://unitedwithisrael.org/will-animal-sacrifice-return-with-the-building-of-the-third-temple/

            http://www.newsweek.com/jews-trump-persian-king-babylonian-exile-third-temple-judaism-744698

            There was a place I had found before, referring that where the Dome of the Rock is where the Gentile court would be so the rebuilding would be located else where on the temple mount as per Revelation 11:1-2:

            1 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

            What I had read that Animal sacrifice could start immediately as they’d set up a tent temple as Moses had, while they are constructing the actual building.

            Here is one link on this subject:

            http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/holy-altar-constructed-for-third-jewish-temple/

            Thank you for allowing our continued conversation.

          • Thank you Wayne, you just described me to a tee about my English! LOL As I said before that my (New York American) English is so horrible, when I was in college. I had 2 A’s 4, B’s, 2 C’s and in my pre-college writing class, I got an F! Wild huh!

          • Thank you Wayne, you just described me to a tee about my English! LOL As I said before that my (New York American) English is so horrible, when I was in college. I had 2 A’s 4, B’s, 2 C’s and in my pre-college writing class, I got an F! Wild huh!

            What I’m looking is someone who could both explain why and how the following is possible?: For the Greek word διὰwhich means “For” But when I had translated it (by several online translators), into Hebrew, the Hebrew word come up as the Hebrew word: ביקש which means “ask” or “seek”. For some reason these two words translates from Greek to Hebrew, but not the other was around. For if I could find someone who is an expert at both languages, maybe they could tell me why this is and how ביקש comes to the Greek words’s meaning of ‘For”? Eddie

          • Thanks Wayne! I’ve been so confused on all these end time prophecies with ppl claiming that God himself showed them the date of the rapture. Dates like, May 17th, May 8th, March 16th or 17th, June of this year, it’s all so confusing. I know that God can’t have revealed the date to these ppl because it was said, “Now concerning that day and hour no one knows – neither the angels of heaven nor the Son – except the Father alone.” Matt. 24:36 (CSB) also, “You’ll recognize them by their fruit. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.” Matt 7:16-20 (CSB). Their “fruit” is the dates they claim will be the rapture, but they vary so much (with a lot that I’ve seen claiming that God told them the date) that it’s hard to believe that it is the correct date (plus they have said before that it would be a date such as Sept. 23rd, 2015 which was false). Even if they were told by God that their date was correct, it wouldn’t make sense because of Matthew 24:36 and Matthew 24:44 which states, “This is why you are also to be ready, because the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” If God had given them the date of the rapture and possibly told them to proclaim it to others via YouTube ect then people would then be expecting the rapture to happen on that day they had just been told it would happen on. So I tend not to listen to these people claiming that God told them the day it would happen on because, in actuality, they don’t know.

          • For this hies told of me by your friend mike and then your deleting my proper response leaves me only one choice before I delete your false and misleading site from my computer:

            14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. 15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.

            16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.

            With this I say bye, for it’s sad for me to leave such a sad site and I will pray that my God will open your eyes so will repent before it’s to late!

          • For the record, I did not believe he was referring to you when I read his comment. I thought he was referring to people in the past who have made predictions that did not come to pass like September 23, 2015. Also, I didn’t delete your response to him. It’s in the comments section. If you still don’t see it let me know. I’ve been considering getting a new comments system for the site.

          • Mike, Being that you have replied on my strand, makes me think that your saying that I’ve done or said things I haven’t.

            When it comes to end time prophecies, again you have me wrong, for unless I misspoke (for I’m not going to read all that I wrote), I’m not foolish to think of myself something I’m not. At what point have I given you a date or even said when Christ is going to call the saints home? Again I’m not God and I’m not foolish to think of myself something I’m not. If you took care and time to read what I wrote and not assume, you would see that you are the one who are putting words in my mouth and so if someone just read what you wrote and not what I had, you are the one who would be doing the fabricating of lies.

            Another thing I warn against the error in using absolutes and that your lumping me with people that you say that I am, when I’m not.

            What I’m saying is about the end times of not when it’s happening for I pray it still I while off, as long as some of our so-call leaders who have encouraged the president to move the Embassy to Jerusalem, in order to force Christ to return sooner and in so doing, maybe damning their own souls for God isn’t stalling but giving everyone an opportunity to be saved.

            What I also have done was to point out as in Daniel 11:2-20 as there is highly similarity to this prophetic scripture if you look at it as a historian. When it has come to Daniel 11:21-30 again there are many of this that can be seen as possibly happening,.

            Never did I say this is true, in fact I’ve said that I pray I’m wrong, But for someone to say something when I didn’t is putting words in my mouth and so trying to mislead other away from what might be happening.

            So stop putting your lies in my mouth for you can believe what you want to believe, but you don’t have the right to tell someone else what to believe.

            I’m not telling anyone what to believe, but just sharing what I’ve seen as a Messianic Jew for the last 41 years, since I came to Yeshua!!

            What is your motivation and before you answer that, know that God knows what’s in every ones heart including mine and we’ll all have to face him one day soon, so let all our testimonies be true!!

        • Enough already with this focus on Antichrist. Truth be told, there’s a glut of the spirit of Antichrist to go aroun everywhere, including in each living soul, even on the most sanctified of souls. Best focus on and ovetcome it there, and let the personified version of same emerge in its time.

  75. Emmanuel Macron ticks more boxes to be the Antichrist than ether Trump or Putin
    But maybe there is one person yet to be elected into power we have not seen yet

    • NOT

      For Catholic Rome is considered the king of the north (west) Russia) king of the north (east) one of the 3 horns. the middle east and growing up in between the 3 Africa if the king of the south and area I believe is the king of the west and the us is in the middle as per Daniel 11:30 where it talks of the ships of the western coastland and they will oppose him. He would lose heart. This is so evident of Trumps reaction, which I believe Trump is of the forth horn who has grown to be a threat to the world! See what I wrote!

    • If you follow the Book of Daniel 11 and Matthew 24, I don’t think you’d be so happy for the bible says there would be a great delusion and now 80% of evangelical are excited for he’s moved the embassy to Jerusalem to force Christ’s return!

      • You do realize that nobody can FORCE Christ’s return. This is just God’s timing for these things to happen.

  76. This is Awesome! You’re Right! PRAISE THE LORD!!! Thanks for your thorough clarification on President Trump.
    The former fake president, Barack Hussien Obama is actually, the AntiChrist 100%.clarification.
    The question is, who is Donald Trump?

    Thanks bro,

    God bless

  77. Couldn’t he be the antichrist if the rapture happens , and predicted world war breaks out, and he gains control of the area? Once a man thinks he’s been raised from a fatal head wound and satan possessed he might claim to be God afterwards, and decide to take over Israel and wipe out resistant Muslims.

    • I think he is for if you read Daniel 11:21-30 which is indicative of what’s been happening in the past year. I post a large posting under my name, and please read it I’ve been a learned Messianic Jew since February 19, 1977 I pray I’m wrong, but I doubt it.

      • Forgive me for saying this, but being a Messianic Jew does not give you some sort of edge over any other Christian who studies God’s Word. In Christ there is no Jew or Gentile. Nor does time automatically give one discernment and knowledge. I know a lot of older Christians who are totally ignorant of what the Bible says. I’ve been studying eschatology intensely for 50 years, and I also do not agree with your conclusions, for you are trying to interpret prophecy in a preterist way, rather than as prophecy yet to be fulfilled. Prophecy is not up for private interpretation, according to Peter (2 Peter 1:20), and the only way to avoid that is to take it at face value and literally as much as is possible, and for most of it, that is possible. As such, a great deal of it clearly has not occurred yet. You can only come to a preterist view by spiritualizing everything, which is against the instruction of Scripture.

        As for Trump, the antichrist curses God and shakes his fist in God’s face. Trump on the other hand surrounds himself with people who pray for him daily. I may question some of their doctrines, but the fact remains, he wants Christians near him and chose a Christian VP. He even asks random Christians he meets in various places to pray for him. Not to pray later, but right at that moment he will bow his head and let them pray for him. He supports Christianity and is pro-Israel. These are things the antichrist would never do, for he hates both. Trump is in the place he is, because God has chosen to place him there for the purposes of fulfilling the prophecy about Babylon (which I believe America is) being “great” when she is destroyed. She was headed in the other direction and needed to turn completely around to fulfill prophecy. Trump is making this country economically great again in the way that Revelation describes. Is that propelling us toward the end? Of course it is. Somebody had to do it, because God says that is what is she is. It doesn’t make him the antichrist. It merely makes him a tool in God’s hand. Every day and every event around the world is propelling us toward the end and is fulling prophecy. Why should Trump’s administration be any different? It just tells us where we are in the prophetic timeline. It would seem that things will have to begin after she is made great again, but before someone else can get in office who wants to take her back down that previous road she was on. It leaves a small window of time, in my opinion, for things to get going. Will his administration lead to the rebuilding of the temple? I think it will lay the groundwork for that to happen at some point, yes. But that doesn’t make him the one who arranges for it to be built.

        Also in your first comment up above, you put the reference Col. 6:4-5. There is no Colossians 6. Just saying.

  78. Thank you for your post— I quite agree, and find it highly doubtful (and laughable) that the true Anti-Christ would ever be so obvious, or clunky, as Trump can be. The Anti-Christ would hardly succeed by drawing that kind of negative attention to himself in the way Trump often does. Many live to call Trump a buffoon and con man (so please raise your hand if your think the Anti-Christ will win nations being called a buffoon and con man?! LOL). And let’s not overlook how much the mainstream media absolutely HATES Trump. (Surely not one of the signs of the apocalypse). I mean—PUH lease explain to me how THAT would work? ????. If anything, the media will LOVE and promote the Anti-Christ, like a father loves his son (makes sense since I’m pretty sure the far left MSM is like a vacation home for Satan). Very fair to say that those supporting Trump understand all of this, and would like to delay having to meet the Anti-Christ anytime soon, as they know that rampant globalism is the time of the Anti-Christ. Trump feels like we’re putting the breaks on the crazed march toward one world government (and leftist fascism). Also, want to note that there are additional anti-Christ identifiers in Rev 13: 1-2, such as the anti-Christ being: “like a leopard,” with “bear feet” and a “mouth like lion” — often thought to mean: England (lion), Russia (bear) and Asia (leopard). How that figures into who or what the Anti-Christ is, I’m not sure? Will the Anti-Christ will be from all of these nations, or is it a sign of these nations coming together? It’s scary to think that when it seems we have peace, it will actually be the signal for the end. So let’s all just be happy for the dumb tweets! The end of the world can wait a few more years.

  79. Sure, I believe!”I determined: is the time for Jerusalem”. He only failed to mention: “I didn’t come to bring peace, but a sword! D. Trump the more clumsy President of USA until today.. The man of division, discord, of lies, provocations and inconsequences is really in the wrong place in our history and totally inconsonante with the highest position he occupies. The world is perplexed by the actions and words of Mr Trump. Is a very dangerous man for peace and for the planet. In the world, now, we have two crazy: “the world Emperor D. Trump” and the North Korean dictator. How the world is going to get rid of them?

  80. Trump is most likely the anti christ or its Jared Kushner either way he is involved with satan ,,,us christians
    are easily deceived especially in the USA, Trump has blasphemed several times and no christian even says anything
    , Trump is a liar he lies constantly , he is setting up Israel obviously, the bible says he will be a hero to Israel
    then betray Israel, wake up, the writer of this article was wrong “the desire of woman” peolple dont understand, this does not mean that, it is talking about what every woman desired back then which was to be the one who gave birth to Jesus the Christ..and Trump does not desire Jesus , Trump openly says he has never repented,,,Trump recently denied Jesus is the son of God, but rather the son of Joseph…Trump is the anti christ.. Israel rejected Jesus, “but another will come in his own name and him they will receive” , they rejected the real messiah and now they are going accept the false one ….it is over folks get into the secret place of the most High …in other words get under the precious blood of Jesus!!!

    • Trump referred to Jesus Christ as “our Lord and Saviour” at the lighting of the national Christmas tree last week. Of course, only God knows what is truly in Trump’s heart, but I thought I would mention it.

      • I am concerned that Satan can mimic… don’t confuse true confession and acceptance of Christ as our Lord and Savior versus a mere statement for lighting a tree for his base… Do you not think the AntiChrist can and will deceive millions be because of perception . When he is asked about “asking God for forgiveness, Trump
        comments “”I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so,” he said. “I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”

        A critical part of our christian faith is repentance… and acceptance of God’s Grace. Don’t confuse “mere utterance” with “true confession.” Remember Satan can quote scripture…..Trump could have just quoted…. versus believe.

        • We don’t fully know what he believes and what he doesn’t believe and if his beliefs have changed since he made the statement you shared. I’ve heard people with some inside knowledge who indicate that he has trusted Christ as His Lord and Saviour, but it’s nothing I can verify. As I said, only God truly knows what’s in his heart.

  81. Great article I shared it on my podcast and gave credit to you for my listeners to check it out. Podcast entitled The Sacred Hour on SoundCloud.com and the track is entitled Is Donald Trump the Anti Christ? Great info you shared.

  82. I wrote a similar article on Bible Blender (see http://bibleblender.com/2016/biblical-lessons/modern-day-lessons/donald-trump-antichrist-pray-thank-god-for-lessons-learned) but came to slightly different conclusions on some of your points. I think the most important thing to consider is that biblical prophecy is not expected to be interpreted beforehand. Only when the events begin to occur will the prophecy’s fulfillment be recognized. At this point in time, I think several events described in Revelation and Daniel appear to be coming together. That does not however, cause me to conclude that President Trump is, or is not, the Antichrist.

    • Unfortunately, it’s common for people to try to force fit current events and people of our time into their interpretation of Bible prophecy passages. This has led some to mislabel people as the “Antichrist” over the years.

  83. Trump IS viewed as a messianic figure by millions !! No matter how evil, they overwhelmingly support him.
    Trump IS lusty and IS an adulterer, he has NO desire for women, they of only the objects of his conquests.
    Globalism is cooperating with other countries, while Trump does seek to dominate the world under himself !
    What the hell is wrong you WC ? Very terrifying considering in a few minutes this madman, monster, sociopath, who places little value whatsoever on human life, other than his own, possibly creates a nuclear holocaust killing millions, or tens of millions, or perhaps hundreds of millions and that could even cause a nuclear winter and the end of civilization.

    • I don’t know anyone who views him as a messianic figure. There are some supporters who may like him a lot but they also understand that he has flaws like the rest of us. His disapproval ratings are very high in the U.S. and internationally. In contrast, Antichrist will be able to garner the worship of most of the world. Trump will never achieve that kind of adoration across the world.

  84. Absolutely not.

    The reasoning is that he does not possess the pedigree.

    Both the Christ and the anti Christ will rise from the dynastic House of David.

    While Trump’s wife is from the House of David, I am shown that Trump himself is from the House of Jesher.

    Which ironically is the same House that Jesus rose out of and why he was not the person that the church made him out top be.

    Jesus knew and readily admitted that he was not the son of God, and this is made clear in the Islamic texts. But, the council of Nicea really wasn’t worried about the truth. They were trying to create an industry, not a spiritual dogma.

  85. Trump’s not AC, but his son-in-law might be. I’ll be keeping an eye on that guy fo sho.
    Why would the Jews embrace a Gentile like Trump as their messiah anyway? Not sure that makes sense to me..

  86. The anti-christ in late DANIEL came and died almost 2,000 years ago. The “beast” in early DANIEL came and died almost 2,220 years ago. Therefore Trump is not the anti-christ. However, he is anti-jesus and anti-christianity. He has rejected every teaching attributed to Jesus/.

    • The “beast” in Daniel was a foreshadow of the beast that will come in the future. What has happened before will happen again only on a larger scale. I am not of the opinion that Trump is born again, but how would you know what teachings Trump has accepted or rejected? Have you sat down and asked him a list of questions? It would seem from what I hear of his generosity and charity toward people that he understands that concept at least.

  87. Trump is either in for a rude awakening, or is speaking with a forked tongue(i.e. lying through his teeth). You don’t get to become president, much less stay president, if you do not intend to play ball with the power(s) behind the throne, so to speak. The orchestrated push towards globalism has been so strong for the past 20+ years, I can’t imagine one lone president undoing it all, especially with the amount of resistance he would face. This isn’t to say there’s a grand conspiracy. Its just the way things have been going politically & economically in our country.

  88. I still am not convinced Trump is the AntiChrist, but he is awfully close. You mention Daniel 11, saying, “Daniel 11 indicates that the Antichrist will not be someone who will desire women in his life:” But that is not true. The Torah has it “37. “And he will not contemplate the gods of his fathers, and the most desirable of women and any god he will not contemplate, for he will magnify himself over all.” This is talking about gods, that is the context that sentence is describing.

  89. Donald Trump took over the known Republican party by a hostile take-over. He shoved everyone on the Republican platform off the stage. What we are now seeing is, an almost dictatorial actions by his cabinet and himself. He has and does move in all the deadly sins, by virtue of his mouth. We are called to know the times that we are in, and to judge the fruit that we see in individuals. Therefore just quoting the word, without a good balance of Wisdom, will tend to lead everyone astray, by reasons of flattery. To pray and be ready to take action, if need be, will be necessary for the Christian. Watch for the coming move, to move our embassy from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem. This will be one of the most powerful signs of the start of Troubles and the return of Christ to come. I can’t tell you how important this is to the starting of God’s timetable. He who does this, watch very closely, as he or she, will be in ties with the Anti-Christ, or be the Anti-Christ. The Trump regime is, already planning to move our embassy. It has been said, it could be done in one night. Remember the passages in Matt; 24; 15-22, everything happens suddenly. The trap will be sprung, before your very own eyes, and Christian’s and Jews alike, will be found in the balances and come out wanting! See who wants the land, above it and below it, as they will be the brokers’, who will determine who gets the land, and the power of !st ruler of Israel. Who calls himself the dealer? Who brokers deals and brags about them? Who is always looking for a conquest? United States, you are looking for the wrong persons to occupy the Holy Land because, He might just be of our own nation. While there is enough time for blame to go around, no bodies looking at what’s happening right in front of our own noses. Believe me, the person who can dominate, and thereby rule from Israel, will also dominate the world. We will give it to him, before we know what we have done. (And there are people who rule this earth, by their wealth and stealth, who you will never know.) Who the cross of Calvary will not change their ambitions or their desires. So,be as wise as serpents and comely as doves, because these days ahead will be evil personified! Jn

  90. Obama was a Muslim–right wing clap-trap! You are better than that Connie–also–what if he was? He is gone and arguably left the country in better shape than it was in despite epic racism, obstructionism and hatred. Not to mention the many “predictions” that he was , nay ,HAD to be the AC..by various looney tunes ,synchophants and 400 lb. guys sitting on their beds posting … We now have a (possibly illicit) president who personifies the seven deadly sins–whether he is the AC is beside the point right now and can’t be proven or disproven by you , Wayne or anyone else posting here. I suggest we all take J.D.Salinger’s point that the most important word in the Bible is ‘Watch” and go out after praying/meditating in our room and volunteer at your local food pantry or with Habitat for Humanity or at the hospital nearby–ie. spend much less time in Daniel and Revelations and Leviticus and more time practising the Sermon on the Mount skill set…

    • Obama has said his father was born a Muslim. Obama’s stepfather was from Indonesia and was a Muslim, Obama went to school in Indonesia which is a Muslim country. These are verifiable facts as are the fact that he was blatantly pro-Muslim and very anti-Israel. The evidence kind of points to him being one, maybe not a great one, but still the fact that Muslims accepted and liked him kind of also points to it too, for they do not like Christians. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, there’s a pretty good chance it is a duck.

      I do not see Obama’s moving our country further into more socialism and the New World Order as leaving our country in better shape. But then, I believe in Christian values and democracy, not socialism. I don’t say Obama was the AC any more than I think Trump is. My point was that if anybody fulfilled the criteria laid out by the Bible, between the two, Obama is far closer to it than Trump is. Muslims hate him. No way he could be their Mahdi.

      Spending time in any part of the Bible is not something to be shunned, for it is how you learn about God, how to live for God, and what is going to happen as we approach Christ’s return. We are commanded by God to study, especially the book of Revelation. I do the good works that God appoints for me to do, so please save your criticism for someone whose life you do know personally and therefore have the knowledge to criticize

      By the way, Trump is not an illicit president. Perhaps you need to revisit the country’s laws, constitution, and history. He is our rightfully, legitimately elected president. Nobody can say otherwise no matter how much you may hate him.

      • Connie et. al.: Somehow I knew you’d bring up O’s very early upbringing and ignore his many years of Christian church attendance and declarations of being a Christian–no doubt he isn’t the type of Christian many posting here would have preferred but he has been, by all accounts and appearances, a wonderful (once) married man and father. which should count for a lot come Judgement day. My reference to “possibly illicit” was based on the still to be determined influence of Russia.Wikileaks ,FBI etc. Whether Obama’ moved us toward socialism is a political argument, as is your reference to him being anti-Israel/pro-Muslim and perhaps better kept to a political blog.
        My reference to focus on some “Sermon on the Mount” type service was my attempt to get folks to remember what being a Christian really means (to me) and not to denigrate the discussion and study of the Bible on this site… You are right, I don’t don’t know you or anyone else here and if I sounded judgemental I apologize ..it wasn’t my intent.., God Bless, May God be with you,Peace, Namaste…

        • Attendance at a Christian church for many years does not indicate anything about a person’s relationship with God nor does a convenient declaration that one is one. The word “Christian” is used extremely loosely these days. . I judge him by the fruits that a Christian should have. He was taking us into the New World Order which will be antichrist’s rule. He is pro murdering babies for starters, he is pro homosexual, he is pro transgender, He quoted the Quran all the time. All real Christians know that Jesus is the only way and would never say the things that he has said about Islam and the things he has done. He allowed Muslims in by the tens of thousands but refused refuge to Christians. I’m sorry but to say he is Christian is just being blind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

        • I forgot to add that being a good husband and father counts for nothing on judgment day. What counts is if you made Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior and you endured to the end. That is the only thing that matters.

        • Oh, and I also forgot to add, that while you may not accept that a whole lot of people voted Trump into office without Russian’s influence, the fact is, they did. Russia had nothing to do with people being fed up with the liberal agenda, the social agenda, and the moral decay of this country.

          • Despite my better judgment to not reply: ok Connie and others in agreement and manifesting ODD (Obama Derangement Disorder . You win–those You Tube things are so convincing!!! I’m glad your obvious eschatological erudition qualifies you to judge a man’s heart and salvation. That must make you feel good and a bit (well maybe a lot) superior….
            I never said Trump wasn’t president–FACT: more than 13 million people voted for someone else rather than him, and 2.9 million of those voted for Hillary over Trump–but that’s our system and I accept it. The deepest levels of our intelligence services and plain facts show the hacks and Russians had an influence …
            I wouldn’t dare argue with you about what constitutes salvation and you can have the last word(s) since I won’t be visiting or posting here again…

            Patrick–a Thomas Merton ,Pope Francis, Jim Wallis, Jimmy Carter, Dalai Lama ,saved (1972), Bible reading cover to cover, practicing cafeteria Catholic sinner…..

            Peace, Shalom, Pax, God (and dare I say Allah) be with you!

          • Patrick, you are truly an ignorant man. Obama left this country in ashes. He left a divide so big that it will never be closed. He is sitting back and laughing at the damage that he did. The church he attended in Chicago: This is one of the many places where he learned hate. From a pastor of hate. I feel sorry for you Patrick. You should just tune back into CNN so you can keep learning lies.

    • Patrick,
      Serving is “key” however, discussion is good and healthy.
      I recommend that we pray for discernment. However I do know that Trump doesnt bear the fruits of the spirit.
      Matt 7:16
      A Tree and its Fruit
      15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? 17L ikewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.…

  91. Trump has the spirt of the antichrist…. He has deceived millions and will deceive more…
    The Fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.” Moreover God is Love, according to 1 john 4 7 and 8.

    Be Watchful my friend. because there is a prophecy that exist in addition to Daniel..
    http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/st-malachy-predicted-pope-benedicts-successor-will-be-last-pope-190715001-237789421

    Pope Francis (current pope) will be the last pope. I do believe that WE ARE IN THE ENDTIMES.
    we are need to rejoy in Christ Return and not fear….We still do know the dates or time. Just Love…. Be anxious about nothing…. Love the least of these…those who are seeking shelter from war etc..

    Otherwise, we need to remember Matthew 25:40-46
    40 “The king will answer them, ‘I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you did for me.’
    41 “Then the king will say to those on his left, ‘Get away from me! God has cursed you! Go into everlasting fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels! 42 I was hungry, and you gave me nothing to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you didn’t take me into your homes. I needed clothes, and you didn’t give me anything to wear. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t take care of me.’
    44 “They, too, will ask, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or as a stranger or in need of clothes or sick or in prison and didn’t help you?’
    45 “He will answer them, ‘I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you failed to do for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seemed, you failed to do for me.’
    46 “These people will go away into eternal punishment, but those with God’s approval will go into eternal life.”

    • St Malachy’s prophecy falls into the same realm as Nostrodamus. Interesting, but not Scripture, therefore not to be trusted. And while they “make” the prophecies fit each pope, the same is done with Nostradamus. Vagueness is great for making things work. As for Trump having the spirit of antichrist, that is a long shot. Antichrist will be accepted by the Muslims as their Mahdi. I might have believed that of Obama, as he was a Muslim, but they hate Trump. How are you going to get past that little problem?

      • Connie,
        I Corinthians 13: 9 “For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial passes away.”

        we are only seeing part of the equation…. I think the Antichrist is more than just being “Muslim” or “Jewish” –
        Trump is currently pro-jewish – he is capable of being to anti-jewish(we have seen this in speeches)/not fully “pro-islam “or simply “pro-both”. it is about perception of creating “peace in the middle east”

  92. I’m an atheist but there’s no way Trump could be the antichrist. It’s my understanding that the antichrist will be appealing to the masses.

    Trump is universally despised except by under educated idiots and hayseeds who are incapable of critical thinking and all look for escapism and scapegoats.

    • Amazing that you can classify such a broad spectrum of people into those two categories. No intolerance, racism, homophobia, misogyny or xenophobia on your part, is there, considering that Trump supporters were from all those groups.

    • So, the majority of American’s who voted for trump are all “uneducated” “hayseeds.” Tell that to the all of the highly educated professionals in this country who voted for Trump.

      Cretinous remarks like that clearly demonstrate a lack of critical thinking skills.

      This country has suffered long enough with an incompetent Commander and Chief for the last eight years.

      And by the way I’m an atheist too.

      Not all of us non believers are so misaligned to the left that we can’t tell the difference between an acorn and a towering oak tree.

    • If he is , he has appealled to the masses… ( this just the beginning)… the will have a injury (mortal wound) which will be healed)…. watch as he appeals to world after the wound is healed. the US move to move the Embassy to jerusalem is the beginning – How else can he set up abomination in the temple (Daniel)….. if Trump can stand at the CIA before the wall that consider special… he will do it in Israel.

      • To “Be Watchful!” I missed your message. And what a message it was! You’re spot on, about watching the Donald. If and when he gets a mortal head wound, or if he already has had one, before his ascension to our Presidency, that we don’t know about, he could very easily be the AC. But if he gets a head wound, while on our watch, there will be no doubt in my mind, as to who he is. As for setting up our embassy in Jerusalem, it could happen overnight. As they plan to use, if they can’t build because of too much opposition, they plan to move into another building already in Jerusalem, and just place the embassy sign on the front door. Also watch for Donald’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who they plan to put in there as our ambassador. You’re right, that the person will have great appeal, like the previous world dictators, who massed large crowds and no one could stop them. Jared is a very intelligent, smart, wealthy, and articulated individual. No one in their right minds would think that anything was sinister. He is so well accepted right now, that The Sanhedrin and Jewish leadership, would find him absolutely correct. He is an Orthodox Jew. The Jewish population there will not feel threatened at all. Infact secure. Then they can easily pull-off a spiritual coo, instead of a physical one. (And that’s what we are looking for.) If everything stays the same, on the outside, no one will object to it. But this is the great deception, internally, which no one sees, that has become the Great Abomination. and when he/she turns on them it will be too late. Jn

  93. Mr. Croley, thank you. That was interesting and well researched. While you may in fact be right that the President is not the anti-Christ, I wanted to point out one possible flaw in your reasoning. Psychologists across America summarily agree that the President suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder or one of the other disorders in that DM5 cluster. Praise and adulation cause the ego to *grow* in that disorder. Its symptoms are dynamic, not static. Mr. Trump’s behavior today is not an accurate conveyor of what he will be capable of in six years. What he would not consider doing today could be possible and even likely down the road. Thanks again.

    • Thank you for the comment,

      Many people focus on ego, but I know of leaders whose egos far surpassed Trump’s and they weren’t the Antichrist. Trump faces a lot of opposition in the American media so I don’t believe he will receive the praise and adulation that would cause his ego to swell to approach anything close to resembling the Antichrist. Even if he does well as president, it’s unlikely that the media is going to give him the credit he deserves. If he does poorly, the media will blame him nonstop for all the country’s problems.

    • Carol you’re right on! What’s coming down the road. is what I am worried about. It’s all smoke and mirrors right now….Just wait, Donald plans to put his son en law, into the position of Prime Minister of Israel, or being the ambassador from the United States, in an embassy that were putting in Jerusalem. That’s tantamount to saying, that you are going to control all of Israel and her people. The whole city of Jerusalem is considered holy. Your put one building, even near the area, will be like you are saying, …This is mine, and I am taking it! God will see it that way too! Just watch, no Palestinian or Arab will consider it as a peace giving action. There are Christian’s, who think Donald’s ideas are, great moves for Christianity and the Jews. So they are going along with anything He decrees or deals with. It’s going to end up a disaster, and they will have gone with it believing they were right, until the trap was sprung. This is very similar to,…”Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house; Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. Pray that your flight be not in winter, neither on the sabbath day:”Matt. 24; 17,18,-20 Nobodies watching current events, and believing in what they see with their own eyes, happens to be End Times prophecy being fulfilled. Every bodies playing the same game, that it couldn’t happen now! Or I’m too intelligent to not see this coming

    • People make accusations with every U.S. president. I found accusations relating to U.S. presidents who served in the 1970s and 1980s. I heard a presidential historian talk about similar accusations made against President Kennedy.

  94. Chain of Command:

    Monarch of the British Empire -> Royal Gartr -> Freemasons(HQ located in London) and other secret societies -> top officials/members of parliament running British colonies and ex colonies by proxy via these members.

    Daniel tells us that the lion(England) will have it’s eagle(US) wings ripped off(war of Independents) and later a lion will stand up like a man and the mind of a man. See the coat of arms of the Prince that stated that once he is king he will be known as the defender of all faiths for the standing lion king. Do google images search for “Prince Savior World” for a statue of him standing on the world of humanity.

    Also Revelation tells us that the beast(who consumes the whole world- Daniel) will have a lion’s mouth and the number of the beast is the number of a man, this lion beast man of Daniel.

  95. I only started reading this and maybe I’ll finish it later, but I have found one mistake already in your interpretation, and that’s the point about desire of women.
    The scripture here is saying that he will not REGARD the desire of women, not that he will not HAVE the desire FOR women.
    In other words, it’s saying the Antichrist will not consider what women desire, not that he won’t desire women.
    This is interpretation is not only semantically more correct than the other, it’s also more consistent within the context, since the passage is referring to those that he has no interest in appeasing.

  96. No, Mr. Trump is not the antic-christ, but he is against Christ. “No one can serve two masters” Mr. Trump serves mammon.

  97. It s much too early to tell but there are several prophecies that have been fulfilled – enough to be a bit scary. He arose to power near the sea (Rev 13:1) and appears to be supported by some rival world leaders (Daniel 7:4-7) such as Russia. He is indeed arrogant and boastful (Rev 13:5) and of course, extremely successful (Daniel 8:24). He is a dominating personality (Daniel 7:7) and leans toward miss-truths (Rev 16:13). He was overwhelmingly supported by religious leaders (Daniel 7:25) and seems to have a Jewish partner – Jared Kushner who surprisingly, purchased and owns the prominent property at 666 Fifth Avenue in New York City. Other prophecies are vague or seemingly unfilled at the moment. See my source at Bible Blender for a more detailed analysis. http://bibleblender.com/2016/biblical-lessons/modern-day-lessons/donald-trump-antichrist-pray-thank-god-for-lessons-learned

  98. Donald was just saying on TV, during his news report, that he has gotten “6” specialists, who will monitor the White House and Republican parties on the Internet to prevent hacking. (I wasn’t surprised by that, but that he said 6 specialist, from around the world, would be using their talents to destroy hacking.) surely did. This doesn’t mean anything, specifically to the bible. or does it? Should we know this? It’s very suspicious to me! (We already have a news company, in the U.S, called, The Daily Beast.) What else will tie into this I wonder? This is an international group of talents/gifts, using their computer world network, beyond what most of us are capable of understanding. It’s almost like hitting yourself in the face. Somethings are so obvious. And then you ask,” why hasn’t the church awakened up?” Jn

  99. I strongly believe the antichrist and the false prophet will come from the Roman Catholic Church. The pope has no regard for women sexually,nor to be desired as of giving advice in the spiritual advancement of their beliefs. Women are not allowed to infiltrate their papacy doctrine. The Roman Catholic Church is pompous,and deceiving. Study the old Roman Empire and the biblical history.

  100. Has anyone considered the fact of the antichrist could be a eunuch? Someone that has no regard of wanting or desiring a woman. Could it possibly mean a man( pope) of the Roman Catholic Church? Could it mean a homosexual man? Obama has been perceived as Gay by many.

  101. At this present time, I don’t believe Donald Trump is a viable candidate for the Antichrist simply because so many hate and mistrust him. The Antichrist will be someone who the vast majority will think is God’s gift to Mankind, similar to the way Adolf Hitler was to most German’s in the 1930’s.

    Sure, there was always a small opposition to Hitler by those who knew better and there will be to the Antichrist as well, but not anywhere near as much opposition as Trump is receiving now. The world at large is going to love this man, at least during the initial stages of his career.

    Second, scripture tells us he will not regard the love of women: “Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” (Dan 11:37) I think we could all agree that this certainly doesn’t sound like Donald Trump!

    The Antichrist may be celibate by choice or a homosexual, the latter of which would probably make him even more endearing to this wicked, misguided world then if he had been married. It’s possible he could also be married but only as a cover to hide his homosexuality or celibacy.

    Third, I believe the Antichrist might be a Jew, part Jew or a non-Jew who has converted to Judaism. This doesn’t mean he will emanate from Israel or be a practicing Jew. He may only feign his Jewishness to please the masses much in the same way Hitler gave a nod to Christianity, when it was clearly obvious he was no Christian. I believe this will make him far more appealing to Israel and to Jewish people in general, and they will be deceived and gladly accept him.

    So far, Donald Trump is none of the above, but that could change. Trump does have a bit of an untrustworthy nature, and no one is ever sure what Trump is going to do or say next. He hasn’t even spent one day in office yet and his persona and his methods could change over the course of time. He could also convert to Judaism in the future, like his Daughter Ivanka did. His current wife Melania doesn’t appear to be a staunch Christian and would probably go along with it and may even convert to Judaism herself.

    Donald Trump is a man that we as Christians should watch carefully, but as of now I don’t believe that he is a strong candidate for the Antichrist.

    • Donald is a strong candidate for something. And the wager is; that he is not for God. He will be for himself. Donald has said, along with Ivanka, that one of the first things that they will do, when he gets into office is, to move the embassy of the United States in Tele Aviv to Jerusalem. Putting our embassy in Jerusalem, in God’s eyes, could be tantamount to putting put a Holy of Holies in Jerusalem. It may not be on the Temple mount, but being even close by to that area, will represent a real threat, and may be taken that way by Muslims, Orthodox Jews, and abiding Christian’s in the area. No one knows for sure, exactly where the Holy of Holies stood, on the temple mount. And if giving part of the temple land to our embassy occurs, because, a new president just took office, and he has real Jewish ties to the homeland. Then why not? Who else in world could be trusted, except one of OUR own? America, is the greatest self supporter of Israel. And we shall see great deception, from both sides, Israel and America. This will be a cause for war. And nobody thinks it’s coming, from so-called friends, and enemies.

      • Nobody is going to put an American embassy on the Temple Mount. Even if it is moved, Jerusalem is a little bigger than that.

    • Chris,

      you say the antichrist will have no desire or love for women. The way i understood the verse “Neither shall he regard ……… the desire of women, ……”, is like this, the object here is the desire of women not on women itself. The context here is about gods or any other gods, how can this particular part of the verse be lined up or included in this thought?

      The desire of women could be someone who they have devotion with. The catholic women have there Virgin Mary, whom they have high regard and devotion, because they claim she is the mother of God. If they believe she hears and answers the prayers of all her faithfuls anywhere they are and at the same time, then she is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-present. If the Virgin Mary has this same attributes that God the Father alone had, then catholic women regard her unknowingly as a god. But the truth is Mary is still on the grave sleeping waiting for Jesus Christ to wake her up together with the Dead in Christ at the appointed time.

      I am a Filipino, I am not sure if I have understood it correctly given my limited command in english. I try to understand scriptures as plainly and literally as I can, hopefully with a right heart and spirit.

  102. I’m leaning towards the likelihood that the antichrist will be a Jew or someone who has converted to Judaism. I don’t see how the nation of Israel would accept someone who claims to be their Messiah so openly who wasn’t at least part Jewish. The false prophet will almost certainly be a world religious leader, possibly the Pope or someone feigning some form of Christianity. I don’t believe a full blown practicing Islamist will be the false prophet as this too would be unacceptable to the Jewish nation and the world at large.

    So far, it appears that Donald Trump is not Jewish, but he does have more Jewish ties and possibly more Jewish cabinet members in his administration then any other President, some who on the surface appear staunchly pro-Israel. There is also the possibility that he, or one of his sons could convert to Judaism in the future. I’m not suggesting anything, just throwing out some possibilities.

    One thing I am almost certain of is that Donald Trump is being used of God for some purpose which remains to be seen. One doesn’t have to be a righteous man or a Christian to be used of God to serve his ultimate purposes, as is clearly taught in scripture.

    • Chris. One of his sons has not converted to Judaism, but his daughter Ivanka has. And she married an orthodox Jewish man, Jared Kushner. He is going to be one of Trumps’ personnel advisers in the White House. And Ivanka, will take the place of the 1st Lady. Jared and his wife are moving in right now, while Trump may stay in Manhattan for awhile. Trump will be giving orders and receiving quests at his towers, while Jared and Ivnaka stay Washington. That’s what I have heard so far. Jared being so close to the president, may come against anti nepotism laws and will probably be going through hearings about himself. But I know that, that will not be a problem. This is how much that he is liked. Jared is a well educated, debonair looking man. Who has extensive holdings of land and properties in United States and Israel. He is one to be watched… He could easily become the Prime Minister of Israel someday and nobody would bat-an-eye about it. In fact, I believe many would be honored to have him as their ruler some day in Israel.

  103. Those who have an ear must hear: “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.” The signs, in stealth for these many centuries, are in reveal and that which we know follows unhindered. It was calling to you daily, in your ear and before your eyes, and you did not notice. You believed its message, the slow and steady repetition. You are its incongruity. With the ballot you succumbed, confusing its message with safety, the sirens of familiar and pleasant voices, and you failed to live and work the message of forgiveness and good will. Falling prey to fear, divisiveness, and rage was to relinquish your soul to it. You believed, despite what you knew to be true. The betrayal is self-inflicted. And now you stand upon the sand of the sea, as blasphemy rises up out of the sea to defeat righteousness. Miracles many may witness, but few will understand. The great book you read falls at your side, torn asunder, shedding tears. You lifted yourself above others, and your self-righteousness portends your disaster. Your fear has hastened, indeed birthed, the revelation, and now it has begun. Frozen in terror, you remain unconvinced that your destiny remains in your hands.

    • I am not trying to be negative, but if you were trying to communicate something, I think you have failed. Most people will say, “Huh?” That paragraph might have sounded wonderful in a creative writing class, but this is not a creative writing class. Here we try to communicate information as plainly as possible. Some people are not getting that when they come here. They are cryptic, or as you have been, very poetic, but I think they lose the attention of anyone looking for dialogue on the subject. While your writing was very poetic, I would suggest that you be more straightforward in what you are trying to say if you want to be understood. It has nothing to do with having an ear to hear. You need to speak so people can understand.

      • Although I agree with much of what you say, you really come off as being pompous when you are disagreeing with someone and chastising them concerning their posts! You need to cool it a bit!!!

        • If you view my directness and bluntness as pompous, then I apologize. That is not my intention. I just do not have the ability to beat around the bush, as they say. It is unfortunate that I am that way I guess. Maybe I’m a little autistic or something. Before you get upset with that, thinking I am being non-PC, I should tell you that both my sons suffer from a form of that, so I am not treating the word lightly. I have dealt with the problems that brings. I worked very hard with them and now both my sons pass as “normal”, are very smart, and have achieved a lot. I am very much like my one son, so possibly I suffered from it too, long before they put a label on it.

          I have found it enormously humorous, on the other hand, that when debating on Youtube, where I use my initials only, everyone thinks I am an old man and they have no problem with my way of speaking, even treating me with respect, but when I write as an older woman, (which I am) I can say the same exact thing and I am spoken to as you just did to me, as well as dismissed as having any knowledge worthwhile to contribute to the conversation. I guess some things never change. lol

          There are a number of people who have come here and their comments are so esoteric as to be completely unintelligible. It is frustrating when people do that, and maybe this person was just one person too many for me, for usually I just ignore those posts. I don’t see trying to understand God’s Word by debating, sharing etc., especially the subject of eschatology, as something to treat as being only for the “initiated” who can understand the cryptic remarks they make. That IS pompous.

  104. I do not think it is a coincidence that “TRUMP” is here as president. Christ’s coming in the air will be at a time when “they shall say “Peace and safety” 1Thes. 4 and 5 are linked. It is the resurrection and Rapture, that will come in a time of “peace and safety” and then sudden destruction cometh upon THEM, as a woman with child and THEY shall not ESCAPE.” Maybe you have not heard TRUMP’S “Peace and Safety” speech and shortly after, Netanyahu ALSO proclaimed “peace and safety” in a speech and the suggestion of moving the capitol from Tel Aviv, to Jerusalem and the U.S. Embassy there also. These are monumental staements and events concerning the end of the days! You have to be blind to not see these things. If Netanyahu and Trump in tandem attempt to accomplish these goals, there most certainly will be a war!

    Back to “the sudden destruction AS A WOMAN WITH CHILD.” 1Thes. 5:1-3 We see the concept of a “woman in travail with child” a few times in relation to the coming of Jesus Christ, particularly in reference to the RAPTURE of the body of Christ the “church”. NOTE THESE INSTANCES in the scripture, and a COMING SIGN IN THE HEAVENS to be fulfilled in September 23, 2017. First note Jesus in John 16:21. Jesus is clearly describing the “sorrow” christians will be in just prior to His return and likens it to a WOMAN JUST PRIOR TO DELIVERY OF A CHILD –but for the world it will be a time of “Peace and safety.” NOTE, also Paul describing the “travail of a woman with child, and THEY SHALL NOT ESCAPE at a “sudden destruction.” I believe these are ALL RELATED!

    There has been something our Home Church has been watching and studying now for about 3-4 years. The 3rd mention of “A WOMAN TRAVAILING” and ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH is in Revelation 12:1-6. As you read this “GREAT WONDER” (sign) in Heaven, observe a “WOMAN”, clothed in the “SUN”, with the “MOON” under her feet, and a “CROWN OF 12 STARS” on her head, “TRAVAILING IN BIRTH” to a “MAN CHILD”. This is extremely fastinating! In Sept. 23rd and 24th, of this year, 2017, this “SIGN” is going to actually appear in the constellations in the Western skies over Jerusalem on the “FEAST OF TRUMPETS”. It is the FIRST AND ONLY TIME, these Heavenly bodies will be positioned and aligned this way in history according to NASA’s “STARLARIUM” (spelling) a computerized star chart. There are “9 stars” over “THE VIRGIN” and three planets MERCURY, MARS and VENUS to join them making “12 STAR CROWN” over VIRGO’S head; the SUN will be on her shoulder, and the “MOON” at the feet of VIRGO. THE VIRGIN, (ISRAEL) has the planet “JUPITER” IN HER WOMB! (the “KING PLANET”) Late NOVEMBER 2016, the planet “JUPITER” entered the womb of the VIRGIN and will remain there 9 months! (child conception to birth)until Sept. 23-24 2017 when “JUPITER” the King planet will “BE BORN” on the 2 day “FEAST OF TRUMPETS”. According to Jewish tradition, the “FEAST OF TRUMPETS” is the Jewish feast that must be witnessed “2 witnesses at the “NEW MOON” and is called the Feast: “THAT NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR.” I find this very fastinating and something to WATCH FOR!

  105. There are plenty of other Nostradamus passages that are broad enough to be linked to Trump that’s kind of the point of Nostradamus, after all, as he’s generally pretty broad and generalized but another passage caught our attention when digging into this conspiracy theory.

  106. All of you, please stop and read this. The second day after the election, Donald J. Trump was tapped by the Sanhedrin to rebuild the Third Temple with Putin’s help. He was also declared by the Rabbis to be the “American Messiah.” On the heels of that, many New Apostolic Reformation people who hold to a Preterist view now deny the physical return of Jesus and limit the coming of Christ to the coming in His Church. Both Jim Bakker and Tom Horn have declared that Trump is either the Messiah or the forerunner of the Messiah. Meanwhile, if you challenge that Trump is the “New Cyrus” you become persona non grata in these churches and parachurch groups. NONE OF THIS IS FAKE NEWS. GOOGLE….THIS IS ALL HAPPENING NOW!!!!!!

    • In response to what you wrote, it really is irrelevant what the Sanhedrin declares. They are working off a prophecy, which was not a prophecy of God, that says the Messiah will appear this year. Since Trump is pro-Israel, they have jumped on the bandwagon to declare him to be either the Messiah or an Elijah (or from a Christian perspective, John the Baptist) sort of person. That doesn’t make it so. They are not looking for the same kind of Messiah that we know is the Messiah. They just want someone to rebuild the temple. The rabbis have often stated that whoever is responsible for rebuilding the temple, that person is the Messiah. Secondly after listening to the video of the interview between Bakker and Tom Horn, neither of them said the Trump is either of these people. Horn was merely relating what Israel’s rabbis are saying. In fact he said at the end that he does not think Trump is the antichrist nor does he expect the true Messiah to come on the scene the way the Jews are expecting the Messiah. He knows the Lord must return the way Christ will return. He just finds it interesting that they are all declaring this, and thinks that maybe something is afoot, but doesn’t know what.

      As for people denying the physical return of Christ and expect the Church to bring in the kingdom, there are denominations that have been preaching that nonsense for hundreds of years. This is nothing new. That we are seeing the world being set up for the end times to begin is a given, as this has been happening for years as we watch prophecy come to pass. And each year of course brings us closer to that end, and at some point it will start. That doesn’t make Trump the antichrist. He is no doubt fulfilling the plan to get America ready for her part in the end times, but that may be as far as his part goes.

      When Babylon (and I believe America is Babylon) is destroyed, she is the wealthiest, more secure nation on the planet according to Revelation. The merchants of the world are making tons of money off of her. That means our economy has to improve, and for her to sit as a queen saying that nobody can touch her, our security from ISIS and the terrorist threats has to lessen. The direction this country was taking was away from that prophecy of what she is like when she is destroyed, so obviously something had to change our direction and bring us back to the great country we used to be. As I believe that the O.T. prophecies also teach that many Israel refugees who escape the beast at the abomination of desolation take refuge in Babylon, we must also become a pro-Israel nation to accommodate that. As the beast hates and destroys Babylon it seems unlikely that the one who is apparently chosen to make her great again is the beast or in league with him for that matter. I believe the previous regime and people in that camp in this country were more in line with that agenda. They wanted to destroy her before her time, so that she would not be competition for the beast. If you want to find an antichrist, I would suggest looking in the direction of the group who are violent, bloodthirsty, and taking the world by force. For Israel to get their temple, the person would have to get Islam to agree to that. I am of the opinion that only a Mahdi could do that.

    • I know that 70 countries are to negotiate in Paris France this Jan, 15th, about the existence of Israel. Whether it will be a two state country or totally dissolved. This is one of the defining signs of the Antichrist’s entrance. And that Donald, amongst others, wants to move our embassy in Tele Aviv to Jerusalem. If this happens, no Jew will have a place to live in Israel. The Palestinian’s will feel embolden to take the land that they feel is rightfully their’s, and that America, will be the nation that strikes first to demand a peace settlement, on OUR TERMS, not their’s. Every nation in the middle east will assume that we are now, forcing our will on them and are planning some kind of coo to handle the situation. In other words, back door dealings, may leave Israel without a nation. And there will be no place to hide, from invading forces launched against her, Israel. Also which has been predicted from old. Someone’s going to get that land. Peace and safety being said, while other’s are stroking the pen, to take the largest oil reserve in the world underneath her country-Israel.

  107. The times are very soon, and Trump fits the bill. He will deregulate the economy, leading to a calamity and a crash, while his very rich friends take in the bounty

    THE BOOK OF ELI
    EXCERPS

    There is no greater crime than a crime against humanity.

    There is no greater crime against humanity than usury.
    The greatest violence, and the greatest threat to humanity, is the growth of money.
    In the new faith, there is only one commandment. It is this commandment, and this commandment
    alone, that must be followed to end the times of suffering, which is soon to come.
    FORSAKE USURY.
    Those who have assets must withdraw them from the markets of loans.
    The time will soon come when you will gain profits from the markets of loans, and your wealth
    will be taken by the very few.

    You are judged many times more by what you do in groups than for what you do as individuals.
    You are judged many times more by what you give assent to than by what you give assent to others
    doing than what you do yourself.
    You are judged more by what you do passively that what you do actively.

  108. I made myself the same question of this article a while back too, and as of today I don’t think he is the antichrist, but I see him as a confirmation of the end being near…very clearly!! Our society is getting less predictable every time, or in other words more chaotic, and this eventually will take us to our own end…this is easy to see with all the chaos around the world too. As in previous comments, we should put ourselves in Jesus hands and prepare for more chaos to come. With my little knowledge of the Apocalipsys I would not guess about when the end is coming, but now I can say that is going to be faster than I thought!

  109. Revelation opens with a declaration that its contents will happen soon. Rev 1:1-3. John wrote the prophecy to the 7 churches in Asia Minor in the first century. We are now at the 21st Century. So how can we take the prophecy seriously today in 2016? 2000 years later? It must have already occurred (because soon, at hand, the last hour, near, in a little while, will not delay, at the door, quickly, shortly, and about to come were the time statements given to the original audience). We have been conditioned to think that it’s still yet future. Why is this? Revelation describes the end… but the end of what? The earth endures forever (Eccl 1:4, Psa 78:69, 104:5). So this ‘end’ must have been something else. What end happened in the first century? Could it be the end of the old ‘heavens & earth’ – otherwise known as the Old Covenant system of righteousness? (Temple worship and animal sacrifices under the Levitical priesthood). The moon turned to blood, and stars fell from the sky many times in the Bible. Look it up in a Concordance. This is apocalyptic language describing utter devastation to cities and powers. The Old Testament is full of this kind of talk, not just Revelation. Many still think, OK well, that may be true, but… Jesus isn’t here so it must not have happened. But did He not say “wherever 2 or more are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them?” And the Kingdom of God does not come with observation. It’s within us. And it’s not of this world. All Biblical statements. Something to think about! Ask any Christian and they will tell you Jesus is already reigning in His Kingdom. And remember WHERE it is. So to say He’s not here is rather contradictory, isn’t it? I think it’s quite possible Revelation is a fulfilled letter, and we misunderstood the contents. See also Rev 3:11, 22:6, 22:12, 22:20. Many say Caesar Nero was the beast… and his name “NRWN QSR” adds up to 666 using Jewish gematria. Study the Roman Jewish War time period also, to see all his atrocities. He had red hair too btw.

    • Are you familiar with ” But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”? To God it has been two days. He does not see time as we do. Think of a thousand years as compared to eternity. It is not even the blink of an eye. These things in Revelation are to be taken literally, and they have yet to happen. The prophecies in the O.T. are yet future when concerning the Day of the Lord, so that is why it is full of this kind of talk. It is all still future. Trust me, when it begins to happen you’ll know it.

      • That is 100% true Connie, it really amazes me that this current generation has the biggest library known to man, the Internet, and yet many are still so ignorant of biblical truth.

        Research should not be limited to the 66 books that we call the bible today as many wise biblical students know that these books were put together by men who were bias in certain ways. This can clearly be seen in the King James Bible where they used the pagan practice word Easter in Acts instead of the word pascach which means Passover. There are many such bias in the translated scriptures, that’s where serious study helps us to find the distortions in our current bibles which was planted by Satan over the years to deceive us

        • I struggled with the idea that the KJV had translated the word “pascha” as Easter until I found out that the word was of Chaldean origin and was used to refer to either Passover or Easter. As Herod was not a practicing Jew, one assumes that he was celebrating Easter, not Passover, hence him waiting until his celebration of Easter had passed, so it didn’t ruin his holiday. I think they translated it correctly.

          While I refer back to the Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic in my studies, I have found the KJV to be the most accurate English translation there is. Great care was taken to ensure that it didn’t have bias by keeping to as literal a word for word translation as possible, including putting any added words in italics so that the reader might know that the word was an insertion to make grammatical sense in English. It took several printings over the years to work out the kinks of typo errors, etc. but what we have today is a very trustworthy version. I find all modern “translations” to actually be paraphrases, not word for word translations. Plus they didn’t use the Byzantine manuscripts as did the KJV, they used the Alexandrian manuscripts as their basis, and these manuscripts have serious error issues as well as being minimal in number.

          As for using other books besides the Bible to understand it, yes, one needs to read history to understand what was going on in the world at the various times, archeology of course helps to understand things better, and knowing customs of the times and nations certainly adds to ones understanding, so I agree that one should look to these other sources to help give understanding, but ultimately the Bible is the only reliable truth, because it is the only book that God has authored.

          • I totally agree with you that the KJV of the bible is one of the best translation but that’s it the problem it is a translation and prone to errors.

            Passover should have been the correct rendering as this was about the Jews festival and pleasing them by taking Peter not trying to please himself. Passover and unleavened bread feasts always goes together as can clearly be seen in other places where the feast is mentioned. Sometimes they call the whole feast Passover and sometimes they call it feast of unleavened bread but never Easter.

    • How intelligent of you to perceive that we are all, as you say, right wing….are you sure about that?

      Myself, there is no interest in either party here…too much sin to vote for. That is not something this servant is willing to attach their name to.

      This servant also does not say Barack Obama is the Antichrist nor does this servant own a gun.

      Consider your words, sir, before you throw broad assumptions about all who comment. This is how divisions of hatred are planted and grow.

    • Wow! Your testimony could do A LOT of good for those who are struggling. I think God is going to use you and your testimony to reach people. I hope you’ve found a church where you can continue growing in the Christian faith.

      • Do not exclude the good that can come from online fellowship as well friend 🙂 A most definitely blessing of online socializing is it’s ability to allow the wallflowers to blossom ♡

        Yes, her testimony can, very much, help those in darker parts of living. She will be a blessing, indeed, to those desperate to leave such a life.

  110. i LOVE DONALD J TRUMP AND HE WILL SAVE US FROM THE DANGERS OF THE HILLARY WHO IS THE re$al ANTICHRIST!!!!11!!11!~

    • I dont think Trump is the Anti-christ. It does describe types of people that appoint themselves as Gods when crowned. Some wear scarlet and purple. Drink out of gold chalices while concealing their own filthy sexual acts or defending their own when caught. Many go to this place to drink out of the cup.

      They do not seek women.

      Everyone is deceived to the point to where they don’t even want to question it. They are very rich.

  111. if I may interject my two cents once again…
    1st: to Clifton Connelly…everyone has the right to speculate about the future
    Parable of the 10 virgins; 5 were diligent and stayed prepared for the return of their lord, 5 were sleeping when he arrived and weren’t prepared. So there’s nothing wrong with trying to be aware of the times and seasons and stay prepared.
    I agree that we shouldn’t just assume that ‘the next guy’ who comes along that doesn’t fit our view might be the ‘man of sin’.
    2nd: to every other believer in this thread, 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 says the day of Christ will not come until the man of sin, the son of perdition is revealed and that won’t happen until that one who restrains evil, sin, iniquity is removed then the Antichrist will be revealed and begin his reign of deceit and destruction.
    My interpretation of scripture is that Mystery Babylon is a real city but Babylon in name only as I have seen the historic Babylon in Iraq (ancient Babylon) myself while deployed with the US Army to Iraq. The historic Babylon is no more than an archaeological site that Saddam Hussein had delusions of reigning from as a reincarnated Nebuchadnezzar. My take is that it is New York City, and it’s the Great Whore of Revelation that gets destroyed in Chapter 18. Look in depth at that chapter and the reaction of the rulers and merchants of the world. What other city would garner such reaction? It’s likely the result of a rogue terrorist nuke; the World Trade Center has attracted terrorist attention before and it’s still the prime target. One nuke taking out the largest populace on the eastern seaboard and that would effectively knock America out of the lead of world affairs for the Antichrist to attempt world domination.

    • To Ken Knolton; there is another place on the planet which could be called Mystery Babylon, and that’s not the ancient ruins of Iraq. Although it does have the exact stones and rebuilt temples of worship from those direct sites. It’s in East Berlin, at the Pergamus museum. It actually contains brick by brick of the processional way into the city of Babylon. Which contain about 167 demon Gods all over the front of it.(The number is supposed to represent the Jewish number system for Sheol. Which is the name for Hell. I don’t remember the correct number. But I know that’s what it means.) If you went underneath it, the arched causeway, like the children of Israel did, in the old testament, you were literally going into Hell on Earth. It also contains the exact temple of sacrifice, to all the Gods, in it. In the 1890’s, German archaeologists, dug up and found the exact sites where these places were, took brick by brick,back to Germany. There they reconstructed it in a museum. They made the museum around all of their findings. The sacrificial temple, where all the Gods are killing one another, was the same place where Antipas, the faithful martyr was killed on the steps of it. Antipas, is mentioned in the book of Revelations. After it’s construction, within weeks, WW1 started, and thousands started to die. Germany got blamed for starting the war, and had to give back huge sums of reparations, putting her into hyper-inflation. With in 20 years, Hitler took office, and ruled the country, into his Nazi regime. At least 55 million, died in that world war. The territory of the demonic, are in those ancient walls, and what was done there. This museum actually hides the Mystery of Babylon, and you can visit it today.

  112. False !!!! Because according to Revelations chapter 13 the antichrist will be the one world leader and this won’t happen until after the rapture of the church . You all seems to come out with these lying tales when someone is elected to whom you don’t like . It’s ashame on how you lie on God and twists his word just to be famous . Repent before you end up in hell !!!

    • When the beast appears is dependent upon your view of the endtimes. Not everybody subscribes to the theory of a pre-trib rapture, because it is one that is surmised instead of clearly taught. Some of us believe the rapture is after the tribulation and some believe it is at the last trump. And some believe it is after the wrath of God. Personally I think it is at the last trump, before God’s wrath is announced. I don’t think anyone commenting here, or Wayne either, is famous. Few people become famous for their blogs. And I don’t think someone will end up in hell because they’ve made the mistake of thinking Trump might be the antichrist. That verdict will be proven true or false soon enough.

    • I feel compelled to share some parables due to a lack of preparedness any who believe they will be taken up before tribulation will possess. First, the ten virgins….5 were wise and had the oil (they were prepared), 5 unwise did not have what they thought they needed (were not prepared and suffered greatly).
      Wheat and tares grew together until harvest. Tares pulled and bundled first then wheat (God’s children are the wheat).
      2 people in a field, one taken….2 people at a grinding wheel, one taken. Those taken were killed (carcasses) and left for the birds that eat dead things. Who are the dead? (those not in Christ).
      Finally, we are told if we wish to be His disciples that we must take up our crosses daily and follow Him…this is a difficult journey NOT lacking in suffering…yes He gives us peace and rest; this makes the journey bearable…His yoke is easy and His burden light but the garbage the world throws in the direction of those who love and follow Christ is very heavy and difficult, impossible to overcome without Christ. This is drinking from His cup (enduring the hatred that the world throws at you with love toward those throwing).
      Sorry, to say there is no quick easy way out…rapture before tribulation…all of His endure great tribulation in their individual ways marked out perfectly by God Himself turning all to good for those who love Him. Even Paul says to rejoice in the suffering….chew on this and rather be prepared.

    • Wow you need to relax and put down the judges’s hammer. Have you ever been wrong before in your life? You should REALLY look into the pre-rapture theory. It is truly non-biblical. A deception at its finest. Most of the world preaches this but Christians need to be ready to go through Tribulation. You are so quick with anger in your judgement on people’s posts. Telling people they are twisting scripture but your hypocrisy is as luminous as my Christmas tree, so here is the scripture for you regarding the twisted pre-tribulation theology that you believe in:

      Matthew 24:29-31
      29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

      30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

      31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

      Let God judge His servants. Ya its frustrating that people twist scripture but remove the planks out of your eyes before you start spewing what you just posted.

    • Shame on YOU for your blasphemy! There is no hell and you know it. Look up the word for hell from the original Hebrew used in the Bible. It refers to death, or the grave. No loving God would punish anyone with an eternity in a fiery pit for only one lifetime of sin. Why would you worship such an evil asshole?

      EVERYONE will be resurrected to live on paradise earth for a thousand years, even Hitler, then at the end of the millennium of peace, when humanity has attained perfection and no longer has the stain of original sin on their souls, Satan and his demons will be released from their confinement and be allowed one last chance to corrupt humanity. Those who fall for his deceit this final time will be forever destroyed, along with Satan and his demons. That does NOT mean hell. That means simply being erased from existence. Nobody will rot in hell. They will only cease to exist for the rest of eternity. You would know that if you ever actually READ the Bible.

      Again, why would you worship someone so heartless that they would cause eternal suffering to someone for simply SAYING something that YOU dont’ personally agree with? Would you physically torture your own child every single day of his life JUST because he disrespected you once or twice? No? Then why would God, the wisest and most loving being in the universe, do such a thing? Answer me that.

      • Following the Millennium this is what Revelation records:

        “And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:12-15)

        From this, those whose names were not found in the book of life were cast into the lake of fire. Does being thrown in the lake of fire result in annihilation? Here is Revelation 19:20 concerning the fate of the Antichrist and the False Prophet:

        “And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.”

        Both will be cast alive into the lake of fire. This suggests that those who are cast in the lake of fire will be conscious and will not face annihilation. Revelation 20:10 describes the torment that will take place there:

        “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” (Revelation 20:10)

        Furthermore, those who accept the Mark of the Beast will be tormented-not annihilated. Here is a warning an angel will give the inhabitants of the earth during the end times:

        “And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” (Revelation 14:9-11)

        Also consider Matthew 25:41.

        From these verses, I’d argue that the wicked will face eternal punishment and will not be annihilated. Anyone reading this is welcome to reject what is written here, just offering my opinion.

        • You aren’t offering an opinion, Wayne. You are offering God’s Word, which is true. The other person was offering their opinion, for Scripture does not back up what they say. They are the one who has not read the Bible. Just to say there is no hell mentioned in the Bible proves that, for you quoted a verse above which states that death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire. And in Mark, Christ tells us the following, “And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” Hence there is a hell, it is a place of torment, and it is eternal according to Christ. He also told the parable of Lazarus and Abraham in paradise while the rich man looked upon them from across the gulf in his torment of flames. I don’t think Christ was trying to lead anyone into a false doctrine by teaching us that there is eternal torment, first in hell and then in the lake of fire, when their isn’t. He taught it, because it is true. It isn’t opinion when Scripture clearly teaches something. It IS opinion when you have a belief that is not upheld by Scripture. I’m afraid I am not as gracious as you are. I just speak the truth.

          • Thanks Connie. The passages I cited were pretty definitive, yet as you know, there are people who will interpret the passages differently or argue something completely different despite them.

          • “Early Judaism had no concept of Hell, although the concept of an afterlife was introduced during the Hellenistic period, apparently from neighboring Hellenistic religions.”

        • He will be the great deceiver of mankind. His coming will be “with all unrighteous deception among those who perish” (2 Thes. 2:10).
          “Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery” (Dan. 11:32).
          He will be a man of violence and a murderer. “But news from the east and the north shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many” (Dan. 11:44).

        • In some cases two people can be right and wrong at the same time. Hell is an example of this. The word hell is from the gothic (Visigoth) word Hel that crept into our translations after those people conquered Rome. Hel is a place of absolute cold.
          The words used by the disciples and assumedly JESUS were Gehenna (valley of Hinnon), tarteros, Sheol and Hades.
          Gehenna by Roman times was a garbage dump that constantly burned.
          It was also at one time the place that Israelites offered there children as human sacrifices to miloch and ba’al.
          When JESUS is referring to “hell” it is purely allegorical. The book of revelations is also a very symbolic book.
          Unless you think a red dragon is actually gonna chase after a literal woman or a beast is gonna arise out the sea??? Lol.

          While not found in your bible-
          The concept of a LOVING G-D that punishes people forever is actually contrary to the character and nature
          of G-D… so then what does it really mean that these people will “burn” forever?

          Well the fact is G-D made the soul eternal
          When JESUS was murdered by Satan it destroyed his grip on mankind.
          Since the soul is eternal a person that hates G-D is eternally seperated from him.

          Also G-D is light and heat
          Instead of cold and darkness which have limits. -433 degrees is max cold and is in absolute darkness.
          G-D is infinite light and heat so the concept of burning in hell is literally burning in the light of the eternal and immortal G-D.
          Those that hate G-D will turn to ashes from within.

          Sorry I didn’t qoute a bunch of scriptures from your Protestant bible and no I am not a catholic either. My Bible isn’t numbered like yours nor in English. The tradition of English bibles is flawed l. A 3rd person noun doesn’t become a 1st person noun just because the KJV translators say so..

          Rev. 12:18 And the dragon stood on the sand of the sea shore.

          Rev.13:1 in your English Bible
          And I John stood on the sand of the sea. ????????
          (Bad grammar error 1061)

          I am sure with a strongs and a KJV you can confirm everything I just said.

          Before 400 AD the word hell didn’t exist in the Bible.

          Hell is NOT a place that Satan rules.
          Satan is in earth. After cast out of heaven.
          Hell is an eternal state of separation from G-D

    • Disobedience, immorality, rebellion, violence and utter selfishness are manifestations of Trump’s perverted character. Double standards, bribery and corruption will be the order of the day in his wicked regime.
      There are no limits to the conceit and evil intentions of this dictator’s perverted character. People who are not able to make a distinction beyond any doubt, are vulnerable to the deception of the Antichrist and may naively accept and worship the false messiah in the place of the true Messiah.

    • According to Matthew 24:15-31, this may explain when the rapture may happen after the Abomination of Desolation is revealed and is yet to come, for it might be very soon after the US Embassy is opened in May of this year and after the daily sacrifice is halted!.

    • Secret Rapture theory from the the Greek word Harpozo. Meaning to take by force and not secretly.

      Mathew 24 is clear that the ones taken are the wicked not the righteous.
      Evangelical Zionism as created by pope Darby in the mid 1800s and the unbiblical rapture doctrine became popular after 1906 with the Scofield felon Bible.
      Evangelical eschatology is not historic christianity’s Eschatology anyway.
      While in the mindset of most Protestants there are only 2 Christian ish faiths-: Protestantism and Catholicism. This is plainly knowingly ignorant.

      The Ge’ez, Ethiopian Taewado, Greek and Eastern Orthodox, oriental church and others aren’t even calculated into the Protestants tiny mindset.

      For the author of this page- Having no regard for the desire of women doesn’t mean he doesn’t like vagina silly. It means he doesn’t respect women in any way and doesn’t care about there desires for liberty, equality and freedom.
      With your narrow view of interpretation of scripture you have disqualified yourself as an expert of biblical Eschatology.

      The book of Daniel was already fulfilled to a T anyway with antioChis Ephiphanes 4 so it can only be used as a foreshadowing or type for the revelations of John.

    • I agree. It also seems to say that He would have a wife from another country. His wives were trophies, and breeders. That’s it!

      • Uh, he DOES have a wife ‘from another country….!’ Melania is from the Eastern Bloc and was later domiciled to the US.

  113. I have read the biblical verse about the antichrist in relation to women – and have a different interpretation on this. What jumps out at me is not that he will have no desire for women, but have no REGARD for the ‘desire of women.’ Read it again and you will see the ambiguity. Trump is a man who has no regard for what women want and is disrespectful of them. The biblical passage has been misinterpreted, in my opinion. It is possible that this has been cloaked somehow and taken that the antichrist has no interest in women. What it says to me is that he doesn’t CARE about women!

    • Yes! Absolutely agree with you Lucy. I feel it’s been misinterpreted and it actually means that he holds no regards or no respect to women, i.e. “Grab them by the *ussy” comment.

    • Yes! Absolutely agree with you Lucy. I feel it’s been misinterpreted and it actually means that he holds no regards or no respect to women, i.e. “Grab them by the *ussy” comment.

      • If the criteria for being the antichrist is to have grabbed a woman by the p***y then I would estimate that there are probably a couple billion men that fit the profile.. If you want to limit it to politicians, then there are probably thousands upon thousands around the world. If you believe he is an American then you would be limited to Congress and all the state legislatures and leaders for the most part. If you want to limit it to presidents, then you have a few that are still alive as a great many of our presidents have been unfaithful to their wives. In fact it is more common than not. So I think you’ll have to do a little better than “he grabbed some” as the criteria.

        The man is not a Christian, he has been married three times, and was a playboy, so yeah, I’m sure he has had his fair number of liaisons. I understand he has been faithful to Melania, as they had a serious discussion about this long ago, so this was past behavior which no longer is happening. And with his money, I suspect they were very willing anyhow, as money talks. Maybe we are not that kind of women for whom money would be an aphrodisiac, but then I’m sure you wouldn’t date Trump to begin with. I know I wouldn’t. Many women have no such qualms. But I also think that locker room braggadocio is highly overrated as being the truth. Most boys start bragging to their friends in locker rooms (and elsewhere) of exploits that often only happen in their fantasies, from the time they start being sexually active, which is pretty young these days, until they die, and much of it is, I imagine, shall we say, highly exaggerated. Male ego you know. If you were unaware that this goes on, then please let me enlighten you. It has been going on from the dawn of time and I doubt it will end until the Lord reigns. And even then it may not end with some men. I’m not saying it is something that should be excused, but it happens and is a fact of life, and sometimes you just have to accept that this is how things are whether you approve or not.. So I wouldn’t rest a theological argument of this magnitude upon it.

    • When checking multiple Bible’s this is found:

      New International Version
      He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.

      New Living Translation
      He will have no respect for the gods of his ancestors, or for the god loved by women, or for any other god, for he will boast that he is greater than them all.

      English Standard Version
      He shall pay no attention to the gods of his fathers, or to the one beloved by women. He shall not pay attention to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all.

      New American Standard Bible
      “He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.

      King James Bible
      Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

      Holman Christian Standard Bible
      He will not show regard for the gods of his fathers, the god longed for by women, or for any other god, because he will magnify himself above all.

      International Standard Version
      He’ll recognize neither the gods of his ancestors nor those desired by women—he won’t recognize any god, because he’ll exalt himself above everything.

      NET Bible
      He will not respect the gods of his fathers–not even the god loved by women. He will not respect any god; he will elevate himself above them all.

      New Heart English Bible
      Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the one desired by women, nor show regard to any other god, because he shall magnify himself above all.

      GOD’S WORD® Translation
      He will have no interest in the gods of his ancestors or desire for women. He will have no interest in any god, because he will make himself greater than anyone else.

      JPS Tanakh 1917
      Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers; and neither the desire of women, nor any god, shall he regard; for he shall magnify himself above all.

      New American Standard 1977
      “And he will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.

      Jubilee Bible 2000
      Neither shall he care for the God of his fathers, nor the love of women, nor care for any god, for he shall magnify himself above all.

      King James 2000 Bible
      Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

      American King James Version
      Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

      American Standard Version
      Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all.

      Douay-Rheims Bible
      And he shall make no account of the God of his fathers: and he shall follow the lust of women, and he shall not regard any gods: for he shall rise up against all things.

      Darby Bible Translation
      And he will not regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women; nor regard any +god: for he will magnify himself above all.

      English Revised Version
      Neither shall he regard the gods his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

      Webster’s Bible Translation
      Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

      World English Bible
      Neither shall he regard the gods of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall magnify himself above all.

      Young’s Literal Translation
      And unto the God of his fathers he doth not attend, nor to the desire of women, yea, to any god he doth not attend, for against all he magnifieth himself.
      Commentary
      Matthew Henry Commentary
      11:31-45 The remainder of this prophecy is very difficult, and commentators differ much respecting it. From Antiochus the account seems to pass to antichrist. Reference seems to be made to the Roman empire, the fourth monarchy, in its pagan, early Christian, and papal states. The end of the Lord’s anger against his people approaches, as well as the end of his patience towards his enemies. If we would escape the ruin of the infidel, the idolater, the superstitious and cruel persecutor, as well as that of the profane, let us make the oracles of God our standard of truth and of duty, the foundation of our hope, and the light of our paths through this dark world, to the glorious inheritance above.
      Daniel 11:37 Commentaries
      Study Bible
      The Tyranny of the Western King
      …36″Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done. 37″He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all. 38″But instead he will honor a god of fortresses, a god whom his fathers did not know; he will honor him with gold, silver, costly stones and treasures.…
      New American Standard Bible
      Cross References
      Daniel 8:11
      It even magnified itself to be equal with the Commander of the host; and it removed the regular sacrifice from Him, and the place of His sanctuary was thrown down.

      Daniel 11:36
      “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done.

      Daniel 11:38
      “But instead he will honor a god of fortresses, a god whom his fathers did not know; he will honor him with gold, silver, costly stones and treasures.
      Treasury of Scripture
      Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

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      Deuteronomy 21:11 And see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire to …
      Songs 7:10 I am my beloved’s, and his desire is toward me.
      Ezekiel 24:16 Son of man, behold, I take away from you the desire of your eyes …
      1 Timothy 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats…
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      Genesis 3:5 For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes …
      Isaiah 14:13 For you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will …
      2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that …
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      It seems to be relating to God’s loved by all others including the one loved by women. Just found it interesting.

      • Sorry about the massive post…meant to put just a few examples. Notice, though, how this comment about women is sandwiched in between comments about disregarding gods and some translation refer to a god beloved by women. It is quite possible that the interpretation on this site, all together, is far from the original intention. Just thought to mention it.

      • “Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” (Dan 11:37) Literally, he does not regard God, and does not regard women’s desires because he’s so full of himself. Fits Trump perfectly.

        • I’ll ask you the same question I asked someone else. Exactly how do you see Trump endearing himself; to the Muslims, especially given he is far more pro Israel than Obama was, for the AC will also be accepted as their Mahdi?

          • He has endeared himself to the UAE and the Saudis. Secret meetings in the Seychelles etc. The blockade against Qatar at the prodding of Saudi Arabia, his photo appearing on building in Saudi Arabia and so forth.

  114. This Christian bulls.hit is tiresome. There is no antichrist and the speculation, conspiracies, and religious madness must stop. I’m not saying all Christians must die or be locked up, this is America and freedom of religion exists, but you all will die and and take your filthy religion with you that is poisoning our beautiful world. Religion poisons everything it touches. Use your beautiful mind that “God” “created” instead of letting a book written by men and people’s interpretations of that book enslave you.

    • Freedom of speech Grant. If you don’t like reading topics that contradict your beliefs, you shouldn’t visit sites that do so. Such as this one. Hate is a terrible cancer of our society no matter what corner of the spectrum it comes from.

    • You are not educated and civilized; are you John D. Trump who is the alleged or what do you want tot proof. Anyways, the Bible says we shall know them by their fruit.

  115. Trump does not know the ways of Christ So he can not be an antichrist. If one is an antichrist he should know all words related to antichrist from Holy Bible.

    • The antichrist is coming out the middle East I think he system be gay.. but only God knows this as much as I don’t like the trump paid he is not the Antichrist.

        • I used to think that Putin of Russia was the antichrist. Then he ceded the power to someone else; so I thought he wasn’t.but, later I learned that he was still pulling the strings from behind the curtain. Then he took control again and I thought no way is he really the one? When Trump started the race I thought he fit the profile but I also thought he had no chance to becoming the president of the most powerful nation in the world. Now that Trump has won and that Putin helped him and praised him for winning I’m beginning to see the prophecy. How would you explain that many Christian people blindly voted for him. On top of that it says that we’re living the era of the last Pope.

          • I know Christians who were very hesitant to vote for Trump. Many Christians did not vote for Trump because they liked the man, but voted for him on the potential that he would appoint Supreme Court justices whose viewpoints are more socially conservative. The future of the Supreme Court was a very important issue to many Christians.

  116. If Obama decides to leave the White House and becomes president of the United Nations then Obama is the Antichrist Obama has all the characteristics of the Antichrist

    • Obama regards the desire of women and respects them. Obama would not be welcomed in Israel long enough to sit down at a restaurant.. let alone anywhere else.

  117. Perhaps, where most people are wrong on Mr. Trump is where scripture says he will not regard the desire of women.
    This is what separates genuine Bible scholar from the occasional reader. Only the foolish think that today the desire of women is sex. How stupiid. Women no more them men may desire that and certainly not necessarily as a group.
    The modern day desire of women is TO BE EQUAL TO MEN. So, one thing Mr. Trump does threaten is this equality to men.
    He’s already said, he’s going to purge the ranks of the military of women to ensure, the US Military is the greatest Military Machine in History. Doesn’t it also say, he will not recognize the god of his fathers, but the GOD OF FORCES.
    Mr. Trump is the Anitchrist.
    Just because, he hasn’t harmed anyone like Killary doesn’t mean he won’t in the future. He’s power hasn’t matured yet.
    He will be a man who understands dark sentences.
    He will be a man of fierce countenance.
    And he will be a man not in line to rule. He will come in peacably and take the kingdom thru flatteries and thru peace deciever many.

    And he will be the King of a nation who will be bounded by many oceans and its warm water ports schall be the envy of the world because it will be the chief trading nation of the world. It will trade even in the souls of men and will be known as the hammer of the whole earth.
    Didn’t Mr. Obummer address the nation and Senate in 2015 in his state of the Union Address as not every problem is a nail.
    And scripture also says this nation known as the hammer of the whole earth will also be known as Mystery Babylon whose MOTHER will watch her destruction. Present day Iraq has no mother and neither does any other country. It says that Mystery Babylon will be one of several lion whelps from this mother.
    Isn’t England’s crest known as a lion?
    And doesn’t scripture also say, that Mystery Babylon will end in ONE HOUR at a moment they think not never to rise again.
    What horror awaits the Americans when they finally learn their President is indeed the Antichrist and the country they inhabit is indeed Mystery Babylon whose judgement reaches to the Heavens.
    And doesn’t scripture also say: “come out her my people that you not be partakers of her judgement.”

    May be wise to get your petoot out while you can and obey the Lord you claim.

    • The antichrist must be accepted as the Islamic Mahdi by the Muslims, he will be accepted by many of the Jews as the Messiah, he will be accepted by the world as a Savior of peace. He is a man of fierce countenance and is more “stout” (not fat, but brave and determined and heroic) than his fellow man. Do you honestly believe that Donald can pull that off? The rest of the world thinks he’s a pompous a** and moron. I hardly see them bowing down to him. Especially the Muslims whom he does not even want to let into this country. He’d have to change a lot to meet the criteria.

    • hi You say this about the desire of women but even if that were the understanding…you disprove his behavior based on his show the apprentice because he supported women having powerful careers. Also the Antichrist comes from Turkey and as Connie stated, Muslims accept the Antichrist as the Majdi and Trump is far from well received by the Muslims. Be VERY careful where you place your feet, accusing someone of being the Antichrist without ALL ducks lining up in a neat little row. It is a dangerous place to be standing if you are wrong.

    • This is the most intelligent post in this discussion. Thank you for your insight and wisdom in this space.

  118. Hello. I just found this fascinating site via Google. I have to disagree with the one guy above who said,. no, no it’s not Donald. The Antichrist may very well be Trump. He’s a rogue, Gentile with no devotion to God having arrogance supreme, is very wealthy and has a signature very much like Hitler’s. I am a certified handwriting analyst. It wasn’t till I was Trump’s signature that I started worrying. I’m not saying that he is the Antichrist but seems like to be in that direction. It seems were doomed no matter if we vote for him or Hilary. It’s terrible to sound. So pessimist but we have two very bad candidates to choose from.

    • Just be careful to separate your dislike of an individual with identifying them as the Antichrist. There have been certain leaders in history who are antichristian, but they are not the Antichrist.

    • As Wayne said, and is biblically true, the Antichrist does NOT desire women as Trump CLEARLY does. So much so that the events that almost pulled him down revolved around his love of beautiful women. Unless this changes it will be difficult to believe, on this end, that he is the Antichrist. Also the Antichrist biblically comes from Turkey…Trump comes from Germany…that is the farthest back I know of his heritage. Be very careful about proclaiming someone as the Antichrist without weighing ALL things….it is something many of us must learn and is a dangerous place to put your feet.

      • The King of the North and the King of the South had been warring ever since the fall of the Roman Empire. Basing it on Daniel 11 it will also be the case up to the great tribulation. I believe these are the two feet/ten toes of the statue of Kung Nebuchadnezzar.

        The Two feet is a mixture of solid iron which is the revived roman empire and miry clay which is the caliphate.

        With this understanding it is highly possible that there will be a scenario of two antichrist, one is a dummy and it could come from the caliphate, then the other is the real antichrist coming from the revived roman empire, having both the influence and control of satan. Satan wants to destroy both the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael, and both are children of Abraham.

        The real antichrist will defeat the dummy antichrist to make him appear as the savior of Israel and the whole world from the onslaught of the caliphate.

        This could be just one of the deceptive plans of satan.

      • You are wrong about that interpretation. Its about not caring about the women’s desires. Not desiring women! Which he does not care about women at all bust for sex and baby makers!

  119. We have to be like the Sons of Issachar who understood the times. Not many of us do. As the day draws closer to Christ’s return the deceptions come thick and fast so if possible we should all be deceived.

    Those of those who belong to Jesus the closer you get to Him the more subtle Satan’s’ deceptions become to steer us off the track.

    • Amen to that, Karl. Luke 24:17-27 was one of the first passages to speak to me regarding making an effort to better understand Biblical eschatology. I don’t want to be among the slow to believe when Jesus returns the second time, if I can help it.

  120. Donald comes from the Gaelic name Domhnall which means “ruler of the world”. And, well you what the Bible says about the last “Trump”. Interesting eh?

    • It does seem that there have been some odd things like that occurring lately, now that you mention it. Hurricane Joaquin formed on 9/28/15 -the night of the final blood moon. Strangely, Joaquin is synonymous with Jehoiakim in Hebrew and translates ‘he whom Yahweh has set up’.

      Jehoiakim’s reign was also an interesting time in Biblical history, although I can’t say I’m versed enough to know what the implication(s) of such might be. Judgement for Babylon, perhaps? Maybe someone else knows.

  121. No, Mr. Trump is not him. Antichrist may already be present in a “cloaked” state. Arab and Israeli leaders will have private meetings with this individual, and then have joint meetings with him. Both Arab and Israeli leaders will eventually trust this man to bring peace. It is possible that the covenant in Daniel 9:27 will be the resolution of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

  122. Very good points, Wayne. I don’t believe Trump is the Antichrist either. I’m not ready to totally discount him as possibly having a role in the global lawlessness that Scripture discusses and which appears to already be manifesting itself; however, I agree that Trump isn’t the Antichrist.

    Personally, I believe that America is in the process of falling and the second seal (red symbolizing communism; Russia, China, etc.) is literally on the verge of coming to fruition. Call me crazy, but I actually believe we could be months, not years, away from this. I expect the events leading up to this to coincide with the timing of the US election (more or less).

    I suppose time will tell.

    • I tried to reply on another thread an it was too hard to read as there was no space left so I’ll say it again here. I just got contacted by an old blog friend also named Watchman, so if I got you confused on my blog, I apologize. I think I can tell you apart now. It’s funny that you both wrote to me at the same time.

      • Actually, both responses are me. The first reply I sent was prior to adding information to my Blogger profile, so it looks like it’s from a different person. It’s me, though. I should’ve made that clearer…sorry about that!

        • I got that straight now. The other Watchman (aka John) contacted me via email via his blog, so there won’t be any confusion now. It’s just funny that he wrote to me at the same time you did.

  123. Trump doesn’t condone violence? Check YouTube. Trump has repeatedly told “his followers” that dissenters should, “have the crap beaten out of them.” Your comment that the AC “..will sit in a temple in Jerusalem” is factually incorrect and should read, “..the AC will sit in THE temple in Jerusalem.” Thee Temple has not been rebuilt yet but the Don has made two, possibly three, trips to Israel and has admitted lobbying for its reconstruction which would mean the destruction of the Dome of the Rock, one of the holiest shrines in the Muslim faith. Trumps hatred for Muslims is well documented as is his desire to see the Jewish Temple reconstituted. To say that Don is not charismatic enough is also a fallacy; as a political “neophyte,” he crushed at least a dozen seasoned pros to win the Republican nomination in a landslide. That’s pretty charismatic. He has also promised to “triple the size of the military,” which satisfies the “military leader” AC qualification requirement. But most of all, the Don is an accomplished sociopath who lies without conscience, consistently cheats employees, associates and suppliers (no business associates, partners, or customers even spoke for him at the convention) and always puts himself first (his comment after the Orlando shootings: “I, …I told you this would happen.”). According to modern scholars, the Anti-Christ will not be fully revealed until after the Tribulation begins (with the Rapture of the Church) but the signs point to the Don in an extraordinary fashion. One thing is sure: The Don is absolutely not Presidential material so if he wins, the American people, who have always been smart enough to make the right decision when it really counted, have succumbed to dark forces at work.

      • Hey there Wayne…. I never said that anyone is the A/C before. I am fearful of saying that now. But I think I’m just going to have to say it, anyway….. and be ashamed (and greatly disappointed) if LATER, I am proven wrong. 2 other very sober souls that I know also think so…… for minutes at a time, like me. OTHER people say that I am a long-proven expert in Futurist Eschatology, and well, HE SURE LOOKS LIKE THE GUY (for moments at a time)! Check out our website and look up THE GREAT DREAM (book) on the wide open internet and see……. we have been online with a real website continually since 1992. If there was anything about your web-persona that caused me to wonder about your conversion, it is that you did not seek out find us first.

        • Wow you think a lot of yourself especially as you have not studied the antichrist throughly.
          If you have bothered to check out Daniel’s prophecies about AC you would have known that Trump cannot even be considered even if he wins the election. AC will be one of the wisest man that ever lived. You don’t know this basic fact and you expect Wayne to seek out your website. Are you having a laugh at someone elses expense.

          Please realise that Wayne goes by facts that are found in the scriptures not speculation and assumptions from the heart and mind of men

          • I’m psychic, and in a vision, I saw Donald Trump surrounded by flames. I believe he is the antichrist. At the very least, he’s a very high-ranking minion of the antichrist. Though I did expect the antichrist to be more suave and better spoken (like Pence), I do not believe that the antichrist will be one of the wisest men who has ever lived. Hitler and Napoleon were antichrists and neither were extraordinarily wise.

          • psychic my ass……your full of shit. on the other hand lets get the end of the world going and i dont mean in a few thousand years i mean NOW.

          • Just because you are miserable and ready for the end of this world, doesn’t mean your impatience for this to happen in GOD’s time should allow you to judge or do like the party of politicians behind “Trump the anti-Christ” to push or force it to happen NOW. This lack of patience is of the Devil, the path of destruction behind Trump proves him as the anti-Christ as you have aligned yourself as one of his minions, get ready for the lake of fire because You & your eternal soul will be thrown in it with Trump and Pence and the Party of Destruction when Jesus reveals himself soon, as he is already back and risen NOW.

          • No SeeR9, Christ has not returned, if He had everyone in the world would have seen Him come down from the Heavens and every knee would have bowed and every tongue confessed it.

          • If you are psychic then you are of satan if not a propit and I think we are freshly out of them. God has given us all the profits we need. Mayb you need some trazadone or Geodon.

          • You clearly haven’t read the bible. Those that persecute “psychics” or people that have prophetic visions and instantly declare that person as false usually operate under jealousy because they wish they had that gift. There are people that can see visions and it’s not for you to instantly judge if it comes from darkness. Go back and read your bible. Thanks. Some that call themselves psychics do so because it’s actually a prophetic gift and people like you love to outcast and harm those that do have it.

            Instead of judging, test the vision and wait to see if there is truth. Men and women can have it.

          • They said psychic not me. It is based on language here on the internet. This servant fully agrees that there are prophets, am very familiar with some. They are 100% accurate and have never called themselves ‘psychics’. This is not unrighteous for me to speak as it was spoken. All was truth. Defense is not coming from my end seeing as this servant NEVER denounced nor EVER will denounce God’s true prophets who ARE here barely seen among the plethora of false ones.

          • If you know the Bible then you know that mediums are of devil, not God. Prophets are God’s.. not false ones either. Any magic, astrology, withcraft, tarot etc. is from the evil sources. This is why their predictions are not 100%. God is the only one who knows all, evil only knows what it learns through watching people, hearing their thoughts and being aware of their feelings…the demons predictions are ‘educated guesses’. Stay away from that wickedness, please, for the sake of you soul. Seek Christ only.

          • I know so many people like you that outcast those that have true visions. If the person is not conjuring or using witchcraft but can see, hear and feel…you are not the one to judge where it comes from. The person dealing with it usually goes through a really hard life full of tests, trials, humiliation, outcasting and rejection. When Christians turn their back on people like this to support the notion that it’s the Christian thing to do…I will show you someone that would have persecuted prior prophets.

          • This servant is fully aware of such persecution seeing as they have and do experience such. (1 leg in spiritual world and 1 in the physical). They also know one other like them.

            God’s prophets do not care about labels and do not call themselves ‘psychics’, in fact calling self a prophet is not even done.

            These people literally go through hell and back with demon attacks…please ask this servant, again, how they know.

            This servant does NOT speak against such people as you mention…only false ones. There are FEW true Prophets of God walking around.

            Most have familiar spirits. No untruth was spoken…please reread this servant’s new comments as well as old.

            Forewarning, massive disaster is coming to the United States soon….many killed…shared with this servant by the only prophet of God they have ever met.

          • Also, there is a difference between God’s prophets (whose predictions come true 100% of the time) and those whom God pours the spirit of prophecy on…those with the spirit would be like Saul was but His prophets have it for life and it is 100%. You shall know them by their fruit both what they speak and whether or not God answers.

          • You are the second person today to basically call this servant a Sadduccee/Pharisee…and for what? Establishing a difference between revelation coming from God as opposed to Baal? This servant was explaining the difference (God’s are always 100% right because God is all knowing, whereas the evil one’s have flawed prophecy or get their foretelling through means like tarot, witchcraft, contacting the dead, being in touch with familiar spirits and call themselves mediums/psychics)…this servant is weary of being called unjust names…such is the life.

          • There are no such thing as modern day ‘prophets’. That cannon is closed. God used men as prophets in the days of old because they did not have scripture. Today we have the Word and that is all we need. The two men who come back to Earth during the tribulation (many believe to be Elijah & Moses) are called Witnesses.

          • I too had a dream of the antichrist. In a city with tell buildings, resembling Trumps. Lets not forget the scripture in Daniel that says the AC will win the nations by flattery. This is exactly what Trump is doing. Lets also not forget the his very name, is written in Revelation. I believe the Lord showed me that he would win the elecection the very day he stepped on stage to announce his running. Feeling certain, that Pope Francis is the False Prophet, this aligns Trump as the AC. Please YouTube Trumps speech in front off the American Jewish conference in New York city, you see a very articulate Trump. Actually gave me chills how powerful he was and how they went nuts for him. When is the last time we’ve ever see Jews cheering on a gentle…WE HAVENT! I believe that when that young lady begins to sing at the inauguration, we are witnessing the voice of an angel sounding off the true beginning of the end. Giving God and Jesus Christ all Glory if this is all true.

          • Paula,

            The Two Witnesses will not prophesy during the Great Tribulation. We the Overcomers are the one who will witness to the unbelievers during the great tribulation, we are the bearers of the Gospel not the Two Witnesses. No need of the Two Witnesses in the great tribulation, but definitely there will be counterfeits which are the Two Horns of the Second Beast.

            The Two Witnesses will prophesy again with a new sort of a gospel or covenant (Little Scroll) at the end of the Millennium, so others may be saved from being deceived by satan. It could be someone who are indwell with the spirit of John, or Elijah, or Moses.

            It will be Israel who will mostly repopulate the earth during the millennium, so it is most fitting that the two witnesses are those who has the spirit of Elijah and Moses. At the end of the millennium, it is going to be like during in the days of the Old Testament again, like Exodus and the time of the OT Prophets.

          • So you think Trump is the anti-Christ and the pope is the false prophet? Someone who wants to do good and the whole world is fighting him? And thousands who knows nothing about God…curse him with rebels tearing up everything in sight? And you think He’s the anti-Christ? I thought the anti-Christ was to be loved by many people worldwide? If He is the anti-Christ …He’s a poor one? You attack the pope because you don’t understand prophecy? The Devil will kill Christians in the future but first He must prove Jesus Christ was a fake? Then by attacking the pope….you do the will of the devil? If it wasn’t for the elect then God would had destroy the world by now? You refuse to believe the truth…if you did then you would have wisdom to see the truth but instead you believe the lie? Satan wants to be worship like God? It’s not power that makes someone evil only when it bears no fruit? So many prophets nowadays but few who know the bible or even prophecy?

          • That’s sad to see you guys still think that. The Antichrist is the spirit of our culture mate not a single person.

          • Sorry Mark but the Antichrist is one single person, the spirit of our culture is what is causing his rise.

          • i think you may be misspelling here. PSYCHO not psychic seems to be more apt. Dreams are often in form of wish fulfillment Trump has certainly been guilty of sin but so was King David. Was he also an anti christ

        • If there is anything about your web-persona that causes me to wonder about your conversion is the fact that you are an arrogant ass…just an honest, objective observation…

        • People have thought I was Christ but that does NOT make it true. Therefore some believing you to be high authority biblically is only human based and can easily be flawed.

          Saying someone is not converted because they did not seek you out is arrogant and prideful, things God abhors. Please repent of that disturbing comment for your own sake.

          You are correct in being concerned about proclaiming someone to be the Antichrist…it is incredibly dangerous ground if it is shown to be untrue without your repentance.

      • Wanye Croley. You used scriptures from Daniel referring to the Anti Christ. These scriptures about no desire for women and others were not referring to the end day Anti Christ. Instead it was talking about the Syrian King Antiochus IV whom was the old testament prototype of the end day Anti Christ. Antiochus had subjugated Judah and after Jason the brother of the legitimate High Priest Onias offered Antiochus more tribute, he appointed Jason High Priest. Thereafter a Benjaminite named Menalaus offered even more tribute and was appointed High Priest. While out invading Egypt and others a civil war broke out between the supporters of Jason and Menalaus. Menalaus was deposed in favor of Jason. Antiochus returned from battle angered and laid siege and took Jerusalem. Thousands were slain and all Jews were expelled from Jerusalem and it was made into a Syrian fortress. The temple was defiled and a statue of the Greek god Jupiter Olympus was erected in the temple to be worshipped as the chief God. This was referred to as the Abomination of Desolation as the Jews were expelled or made desolate from their religious center and the statute that defiled the temple was an abomination. Jews were cruely tortured and killed if they did not renounce Judaism for Hellenism. All sorts of terrible devices were used and children were thrown from buildings. Jesus prophesied of a future abomination of desolation (maybe- ABOMB THAT DESOLATES) that will be set up in Israel and for the Jews to flee to the mountains (caves) when they see this terrible thing. Possibly this god of armaments-power replacing God Almighty as protector). Now the anti Christ standing in the temple of God should be taken into new testament context. Jesus explained that the temple was not a building but the body of the believer. So we can very well see that the Anti Christ probably does not stand up in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem (Jewish temple not recognized as God’s house)claiming to be as God, but stands in the apostate Christian church claiming himself as such, with the blessings of the anti Christ false materialistic ministers that teach that godliness is for the purpose of material gain (I Timothy 6:5). It will likely be after a great global nuclear disaster that the Anti Christ finds himself in position to become world dictator. Common people will suffer working for the state in a nuclear polluted atmosphere. As we see Alexander the Great whom was the forerunner of Greek world empire coming from the west on the face of the whole world (known world at that time) of whom the proto type anti Christ Antiochus IV descended from his general Seleucus I, similarly the end day Anti Christ may come from the west on the face of the whole earth (USA). Now this is not claiming that Trump is the Anti Christ but the scriptures that you gave to say he could not be, are not valid.

        • Hi Zed,

          I am fully aware of who Antiochus Epiphanes IV was and his role as the forerunner of the Antichrist. I believe that Daniel 11:36 onward concerns the Antichrist given how Daniel 11:35 begins to reference “the time of the end”.

          “(35) And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. (36) And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.” (Daniel 11:35-36)

          I disagree with the notion that there will not be a temple building. 2 Thessalonians 2 indicates that a temple building will actually exist during the end times:

          “(3) Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. (4) He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

        • I like your theory that,” The Anti-Christ could definitely come from the USA.” What we have now coming into office of the Presidency, will be a man with nuclear buttons and codes, his family that is Jewish by conversion, a man skilled in military knowledge, a ruthless opponent when disagreed with, a P.T. Barnum style maker of the deals, some one who cares not for women, and a ruler who will not tell you what he will do. The world is left guessing, until he does them. This is a text book identity, of what theologians, and those who have study the bible, have said for years, that the Anti-Christ would be like. If we are definitely seeing what we have been told would come, then maybe we should examine the known facts, and proceed from there. It is true, that a nuclear holocaust could come, as it is described in Ezekiel. Many have thought that, after our technology finally came up to this generation. The crowning events are yet to happen. The wise person, will study these events, and know from which side are they on. The greater question is, will we choose what side that we are on, as these events unfold. ….Better have your wicks trimmed and your lamps filled with oil. Jn

          • Dear friends; Last night, we just had another display of God, trying to get a hold of us, in a mighty way. The skies were lit up again, with a rare full moon, an eclipse of the moon, and a comet that came over our skies. And the night before, Wisconsin, had a meteor fall, from skies and go into lake Michigan. We also had Russia, thinking of giving us back Edward Snowdon. And turning him into a bargaining chip, to persuade our government into friendship with them. The newly elected security chief, Michael Flynn, was caught talking to the Ambassador of Russia, about our previous policies when Obama was in office. And then he got caught in a lie because, the phone he used was tapped. Kellyanne Conway got reprimanded for promoting Ivanka’s clothes line on T.V. And that’s just in United States, not the rest of the world. Signs and wonders are supposed to happen at the end of the age, before and after…This is highly unusual, to say in the least. Can we all remember how Jesus was born? When the star led the wise men to Bethlehem. Is it over reaching to say, that God may be demonstrating His great power to get our attention here? I think that we should all be seeking His face and asking God what’s on His mind. These are signs that the Bible reader should be aware of and prayerfully be considering, specially when we, who are on this website, study and read anything about the End Times. We should be the first to recognize situations on this earth and how they may relate to God’s time table. I judge myself her too. We’re the one’s who are supposed to be looking up, at all times for His return. Jn

          • I’m sorry, but you think that Kellyanne Conway getting reprimanded over defending Ivanka is some sort of sign of the end times? Really? Shall we go back through Obama’s administration and see all the things that were said when he was in office? Surely we can find a much longer list than you accredit to Trump’s administration. There have always been political things, natural disasters and such and these will increase as we get closer. But every day whether things happen or not, we get closer. What we need to look for are the SPECIFIC things that we are TOLD to look for, not for every bogeyman out there.

        • Does it occur to you and others who believe the temple can only be the body of the believer would then render the interpretation of “He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” taken as you say would mean that he actually sets himself up in your heart (meaning you accept the lie that he is the Messiah)? The apostate church is not the temple of God. You say it is the believer, not the organization or church building, so you can’t then claim it is the apostate church. The temple is each individual believer. Do you really want to go with that interpretation?

          Jesus referenced Daniel when talking about the abomination, because he wanted them to understand that what occurred before would occur again only in a bigger way. That is how many of prophecies are fulfilled. Two fulfillments, one near to the time given, and one for the end times. Otherwise why reference Daniel at all? Jesus was indicating that they should interpret what He said via the O.T. understanding of what happened before, not what the new teachings were regarding the temple. Plus, remember, the temple was still standing when He told them this.

          Added to that John is told in Revelation 11 to measure the temple and altar (the tribulation one) but not the courtyard, for that is given to the Gentiles to tread upon until the time of Daniel’s 70th week is over. How can John measure something which doesn’t exist?

      • I respect that you are a highly educated young man Wayne, however you cannot “study” the bible in the same way that one studies mathematics, science or any other academics. The ability to understand the bible stems from an innate spiritual foundation. One cannot study for wisdom. All studying does is create knowledge–not wisdom. Wisdom comes from true understanding.
        It matters not what you “imagine” the Antichrist will be like. Lean not unto thine own understanding we are taught. God’s thoughts are not the same as our thoughts. We do not know what God knows to be true. When God bestows his revelations unto us in his timings for various things and reasons then we “know”–but your imaginings hold no bearing.
        Don’t let your arrogance lead you astray. He is here. Unfortunately it seems by the time you have realized this it will be far too late.

        • If you are not studying the Bible the way you would other subjects, then you are not studying it. Yes, you have to be spiritually in tune with God for it to make sense, that is the first consideration, but Wayne already had that before he began. However, real studying requires comparison, digging into things, checking against historical information, etc. It is not just read through and you get it. If that is how you study, then you are missing an awful lot. Wayne may be young, but I am not, and I can tell you that Wayne is one of the best prophecy scholars I have run across in five decades of studying eschatology. His study techniques have let him to understand things that mere reading would not reveal. Maybe you should try them sometime for yourself.

        • “To; Get on my level.” You are correct about Wisdom in some ways, that it cannot be taught. It is a gift of the spirit. The way that I have understood it, and received it, is to explain it’s function like this; it usually answers your why questions, in the spirit. The Word of Wisdom is a powerful gift. And given in prophetic utterance along with other gifts can literally astonish the giver and the receiver of the gift. It’s not to be taken lightly. And the bearer of the gift usually becomes more humble, by necessity, because of the fear of God. It’s a natural occurrence under the presence of God. The real person under the influence of God, may not even know that they have had or were given a Word of Wisdom. For Wisdom, usually for tells of future events, and can be also current events. In any case, we NEED IT NOW! Don’t worry how you got there with Wisdom, just get there, and use the gift. Not to exalt one’s self, but to cause all who hear His wisdom, to go deeper into the realm of his spirit. And that’s where we all need to be at this time. Being very alert, that the skies may open up at any time, the dead in Christ may arise, cataclysmic forces may occur, and future events may be occuring all around us. We need all hands on deck. If you ‘ve got the intelligence for God then use it. If you have a practical experience with God then use it. Just be glad that you still have time to use your gift as you see fit. The time will come when you can’t and then beleiver’s will really suffer. I appreciate both of your views. Jn

        • You’ve made some big assumptions about me in your critique of me… You’re entitled to have any opinion about me that you like (right or wrong), including whether or not you think I have a sufficient level of spiritual intuition to understand Bible prophecy. However, just please know that I began studying Bible prophecy before I had the education that I have now and my way of studying hasn’t changed since I began studying without that education.

      • Wayne please tell us about the whore that rides the beast and where Stormy Daniel fits in to this if at all?? Thanks

        • The harlot of Revelation 17 and Revelation 18 represents a great city that will be influential over the earth during the end times. It does not represent a human woman.

          Revelation 17:7, 18: (7) And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. […] (18) And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

          Ms. Daniels is not being referenced in the Book of Revelation.

    • Can I assume then that you feel Hillary is not a force of darkness and is the better choice? For that is the alternative to what you have presented. For whatever reason, and I am puzzled beyond measure that more people than I can count have not been able to wrap their heads around this, the fact and reality is that either one or the other WILL be president. There is no third option in the matter, unless you consider martial law a better alternative. No third party candidate can possibly win and there is no abstaining, for to vote third party or abstain simply means that you are giving someone else permission to make the de facto choice for you. It is a situation of being between a rock and a hard place. We know what the one alternative will give us for there is no secret to what her agenda is. She’s had years to show us. The other choice may look bleak, but it is not set in stone. Given that it WILL be one or the other, who do you suppose is the more likely option, should Christians get on their knees and pray (as they should have been doing all along), to be turned around and influenced by God to make good choices? I know Hillary is completely sold out to the New World Order and what amounts to a removal of all our freedoms. Trump is not a Christian by any standards, but he is at least surrounded by some people who may have some of America’s interests at heart and have some values. The same cannot be said of her and her cronies. So given the situation, what do you suggest we do? Bury our heads in the sand and pretend it doesn’t exist?

      • Between a rock and a hard place is exactly right, Connie. If you’ve never read Jeremiah 50 & 51, you should consider checking it out sometime. When you read it, however, consider it from the perspective of America being Babylon. It could be that we are right where it was prophesied we’d be as a nation.

        • There is scripture riddled all throughout the Bible showing America as mystery Babylon. Just look at any scripture that speaks of Babylon. America is the ONLY one that can fit some of its description too. Nice observation sir.

      • By the way, Connie, I admire your passion. I’m not saying you’re wrong, obviously no one can be sure, but I would at least consider the possibility that it won’t be one or the other. It could simply be that we are at the end of our rope, so to speak. Just sayin’. (Note: Jeremiah 50:24 & 35-38)

        Frankly, I see the Iran nuclear deal as the official point where America turned her back on Israel. If the ‘measure for measure’ idea is Biblical and true, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility that America will be nuked. (See Isaiah 60:12)

        I read something interesting not too long ago: When the US forced Israel to evacuate the Gaza Strip under the Bush Administration in ’05, the US was evacuating Louisiana as a result of hurricane Katrina within 24 hours.

        You might think that sounds like coincidence, but if you dig into the idea a little more, you’ll find several other verifiable examples – not the least of which was the recent flooding which occurred in Paris on the very day the world powers assembled to decide whether or not to put pressure on Israel to accept a Palestinian state.

        • I am currently of the opinion that America is Babylon unless something drastic changes. And I am very familiar with Jeremiah 50 and 51, although it would appear that we interpret things differently in that respect. I do see America being nuked when the 10 cronies of the beast decide it is time to burn her with fire. Rev. 17:16. Based on the fact that in Rev. 14 the 144,000 sealed are seen on Mt. Zion, and they are not sealed until after the great tribulation is cut short (compare Matt. 24:22,29 to Rev. 6:12-7:1-8) and it says that Babylon is fallen after those 144,000 are seen in Rev. 14 (but they aren’t sealed until after the great tribulation is cut short), it puts Babylon’s demise sometime after the great tribulation at the very least. (I won’t get into when I think it is) .Given that in Jeremiah 50:28 and 51:11, 24 God is angry about something having to do with the temple (and I do think these two chapters are end times chapter prophecies) and knowing that the temple will not be desecrated until the mid-point of Daniel’s 70th week, I do not see America (if she is Babylon) being nuked before then at the earliest. And actually it appears it must be after the great tribulation is cut short. Will America have a bad time of it? Yes, definitely, and I expect many Christians to be martyred in her, but also I expect Israel to escape her before her demise. Jeremiah 50:4-5, 8, 28; 51:6, 9-10, 50.

          I am also familiar with the fact that whenever we turn on Israel, something bad befalls us. But that is not the same as total annihilation, which is the end of us. That does not come for a while yet. I believe we will somehow be responsible for the beast doing what he does at the temple, which is why God has reached the fullness of his anger with us. I am not of the opinion that the beast is the leader of Babylon for two reasons. First, I believe the whore Babylon is a spiritual entity of her own. I think they are the original spiritual entities which may have controlled Nimrod/Tammuz and Semiramis, then Osiris/Horus and Isis, and on down through the pagan gods as each empire rose to dominate the world. As the beast now hates Babylon, who I believe to be a separate spiritual entity from the beast, I do not think he is the leader of Babylon. I believe the spiritual entity known as the whore is the leader of Babylon.

          I expect this fall will show us how fast or less fast things may progress to our destruction. Our end is inevitable, but I don’t see it happening quite yet. However, I would prefer that we stave off the horrors that will no doubt come before our destruction as long as possible.

          • Awesome stuff here. It will take me a while to digest, but thank you for your very detailed response!

          • Okay, so just for clarification, when I mentioned being at the end of our rope and getting nuked, I probably should’ve stipulated that I think there could easily be a multi-year span of time between the two with martial law and something like a transitional move to communism in between.

            I also think it’s possible we could get into a nuclear war, possibly be nuked (but still be far from total annihilation) and then have the total annihilation come after that.

            At any rate, I think I agree with pretty much everything you said, which is amazing, because everyone I know thinks I’m nuts at the moment.

            I’m still trying to understand lots of things, though…lots and lots of things. I believe I had a vision (for lack of a better word) in September ’15, and since then, I have been drinking from a fire hydrant in an effort to make some sense of it via Scripture.

            Either that or I’m crazy – it’s tough to say just yet. 🙂

            At any rate, one thing that strikes me as odd is in Ezek 39:9-10, where it talks about Israel using the invaders’ weapons as fuel for 7 years. Are you familiar with this passage? If so, do you have any thoughts on it? More specifically, do you have any thoughts on why it specifies a period of time that is 7 years? In other words, do you take this to mean that it is telling us that this invasion of Israel will occur at the beginning of the Tribulation period?

          • Ii believe Wayne has an article on this, and I believe he and I are on agreement as to how chapters 38 and 39 play out. I see chapter 38 being the Gog/Magog war that occurs at the end of millennium due to desccriptions within the chapter, and chapter 39 being a description of Armageddon, given that God will make a name for himself among the heathen (which won’t be necessary after the millennium), and Israel will know that He is their God from that day forward (vs. 21-22) which only occurs at the time of the Second Coming of Christ, not at the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week.

            That being such, it will take them seven years to clean up the mess left behind by that war. As that war will come after incredible worldly devastation, the fact that it is talking about archaic weapons might not be so far-fetched. It might be all they have left to fight with after everything that falls between the sixth seal and the last of the vial judgments.

            Why it takes seven years? I don’t know if it has to do with the seven year week, allowing them time to renew the land and concentrate on rebuilding and God’s provision for supplying fuel for them during that first seven year week through the seventh Sabbath year, while they wait for the flora to grow back after the burning of the earth through the trumpet judgments. I suspect that is the case.

            It will take them seven months + just to bury the dead from Armageddon. Vs. 17-20 talk about the feast of the Lord for the animals. There is also the Marriage Supper of the Lamb at that time. So God provides a feast for everyone.

            As for being crazy, the stuff that the Bible teaches about the endtimes is certainly “out there,” so of course people are not going to readily accept a lot of it, because it defies what people consider possible in the world. They live in a matrix of what God allows them to see, and when He lifts the veil and lets Satan go full force, there will be things that only exist in people’s nightmares that will become reality. You have taken the red pill, so you are beginning to realize there is more than what meets the eye to this world of ours. You won’t seem so crazy when it all starts happening.

          • Very interesting! I’m still processing, of course, but very interesting indeed. Btw, the Matrix really is an excellent analogy. Very fitting.

          • I’m still chewing on this part of your response above:

            I think they are the original spiritual entities which may have controlled Nimrod/Tammuz and Semiramis, then Osiris/Horus and Isis, and on down through the pagan gods as each empire rose to dominate the world. As the beast now hates Babylon, who I believe to be a separate spiritual entity from the beast, I do not think he is the leader of Babylon. I believe the spiritual entity known as the whore is the leader of Babylon.

            When whatever it was that happened to me happened in September ’15, it was as if I could very clearly see that at least 3 extremely powerful world leaders were being controlled like puppets by a demonic force(s) through my TV.

            (I know how crazy that sounds, but it’s true. It’s the only time in my life I’ve experienced anything like this.)

            Following this, I immediately dove into scripture in an effort to understand more and certain passages began jumping out at me in totally new ways. One of the biggies was the ‘secret power of lawlessness’ discussed in 2 Thess 2. I almost felt/feel like what I saw was that very power at work in the leaders on my TV. (Feel like a schizo even typing that, lol.)

            So, now to my question:

            Do you think these ‘original spiritual entities’ you are talking about are related to the ‘secret power of lawlessness’ from 2 Thess 2? Everything evil obviously has Satan as its staring point, but do you know of any scriptural connection between what you’re talking about and 2 Thess 2?

            Just curious..

          • I have tried five times to write back to you and each time suddenly for no reason my computer dumps everything I have written and goes to a different page. I will see if I can write it in a document and then cut and paste and post it here before it gets deleted.

          • I’ll start a new thread with my official response to your longer message below (I have so much to say, I don’t even know where to begin), but I just wanted to say thanks once again for all of the information.

            I feel your pain on the comment submission issue, by the way. It has happened to me several times, too. I’ve started copying my comments prior to clicking ‘post comment’ so that I can just paste and try again if the submission fails.

            Thanks also for your blog links. I’ll check them out as soon as I have a chance!

          • I’m surprised that you only think three of the world leaders are demonically possessed. I’m pretty sure that number is way below what the real number probably is. If you watch some of the leaders, they act in funny ways at times that mimic demonic possession. Hillary had a head bouncing episode the other day that she tried to pass off as brain freeze from a cold chai. But it was reminiscent of some of the head bouncing that has gone on in these “Christian” revivals where all the manifestations of the “spirit” go on, such as barking like dogs etc. These things are demonic in my book, and it could be that what happened to Hillary was demonic also. No way to prove it of course, but it was odd.

            Ever since the beginning, Satan has set up his own kingdom against God’s. The difference being that Satan is not an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent being. As such, he has to use a hierarchy of rulers and powers, etc. as described in Ephesians 6. The secret power of lawlessness or mystery of iniquity as it says in the KJV is that system. 2 Thess. 2 is all about the beast and the part he will play within that system. While many people interpret the whore and the beast to simply be political and religious systems, I see them as actual entities due to a couple things. First it says that the beast comes out of the bottomless pit (Rev. 17) and goes to perdition. A system doesn’t live in the bottomless pit and doesn’t have to go to hell. It just ceases to exist. The bottomless pit or abyss is where the demonic entities (and maybe fallen angels) are kept in chains. The fact that he has to come out of the bottomless pit says that he is probably still there at the moment. Second in Rev. 16:13 it says that unclean spirits come out of the mouths of the beast and false prophet which would indicate possession of a person. Then the third thing is that the father/son and mother trinity of Nimrod/Tammuz and Semiramis seems to pervade all of the pagan religions of these historical empires that composed the heads of the beast. Hitler was an occultist into the Norse mythology. This continuity of belief systems does not continue without reason. There are spiritual entities behind it. All of Satan’s power bases and organizations are controlled by spiritual entities.

            From Rev. 17 we know that there were seven heads or mountains (mountains represent nations in Scripture) on the beast. Five superpower world kingdoms before Rome, and Rome being the sixth when John wrote. The statue in Daniel tells us the three previous to John, and then there were two more before that. There was one more dominating world kingdom to come after Rome that was short-lived. I think Wayne and I agree that it was Hitler. The five before John and Rome were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece. The things they all have in common were being the world’s superpower, and persecuting Israel. Hitler also filled that description, so the beast was allowed some freedom during that time, but must have been sent back to the bottomless pit. Many interpret when it says that “he is of the seven” to mean that the eighth beast was one of the previous seven humans and will be resurrected or more accurately brought back to life. I think he is a spiritual being who possessed all of them, which is why he is “of the seven.”

            Babylon rode him (was his consort and religious leader) in each of those first five at least. What happened after that I do not know, for something happened during the time of Rome to apparently send the beast to the abyss or get him out of the way somehow, for Babylon incorporated herself into the Christian church to get political power, causing corruption and paganism to become rampant in Christianity. Possibly Christ’s death had something to do with him disappearing, I don’t know. I believe after she corrupted Christianity as much as she could, she realized she couldn’t get rid of Christ so wanted out of the church leaving behind followers and paganism there as one of her tentacles. She has people in the Protestant church and all other religions as well, so please don’t anyone get offended. She is an octopus when it comes to control. But I believe she moved her throne to another place. When the Knights Templar discovered her unadulterated mysteries they brought that religion back and after much persecution by the Church, in time it evolved into a secret religion again, known as Freemasonry. Every country has Freemasonry. Most political leaders around the world belong to Freemasonry. The oaths the members take to the brotherhood outweigh any oaths to anything else, including their individual countries. This is why behind closed doors things go on between “enemies” that direct the political scene on the world.

            In time she needed her own political base, for it seems the beast was in the abyss or gone somewhere. When America was founded, a vast majority of its founders were Freemasons and Illuminists. We have a huge statue of her in NY harbor (created by French Freemason) and there is a statue of her on top of our nation’s capitol building. The Masonic lodge called the “Mother of World Councils” is located in D.C. Personally I am of the opinion that America is Babylon and D.C. is her headquarters.

            Interestingly when Hitler came on the scene, people near to him said that he was possessed. And also interestingly he hated the Masons. Given that Masonry is under Satan’s dominion, it would seem odd that he would allow his house to be divided against itself, but it was. Hitler destroyed lodges and killed Freemasons. Satan is not like God. He can’t control his minions and there is jealousy among the ranks. But then given that they are all evil, all bent on world domination, etc. is it surprising there is animosity in the ranks? Babylon not only had a religion, but by establishing herself in America she gained a political power base. America was the enemy of the entity inhabiting Hitler. If I am correct in my theory, then it explains the beast’s hatred of her in the end. She no longer needs him. What he needs is a religion to control the masses because he has lost her. Since the Christian church is already her domain, I believe that he is going to use Islam. And Islam certainly fills the description given in Daniel and Revelation about the way the beast will be different from the previous empires and has iron teeth that crush everything in its path.

            If you are interested on more of my take on things, I do have a couple blogs that Wayne doesn’t mind me sharing. The first is a chronological study of eschatology from Genesis through Revelation then topical after that. It is found at http://endtimesstudies.blogspot.com/. The second is a topical blog on various conundrums and controversies in the Bible. It is found at http://bibleconundrumsandcontroversy.blogspot.com/.

            Now let’s see if I can post this without losing it all.

          • As far as Hillary is concerned, we’re in total agreement. What I think I see in her, however, is very different from the other 3 leaders that I mentioned. I believe she’s being worked completely over by demonic forces and literally on the verge of imploding.

            I think it’s very possible that we won’t be getting a new president, that the Obama administration is responsible for releasing all of the stuff about Hillary, and that the worst is yet to come as far as all of that is concerned.

            That’s just my personal theory, I obviously have no idea if it’s true, but it’s also obvious that something is very wrong right now. The rise of Paul Ryan was very suspicious to me, as was the death of Scalia. I believe both of those events will prove in hindsight to have been instrumental in whatever’s going on presently. Again, just my personal theory.

            Here are a couple of articles you might find interesting:

            1. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-the-speaker-the-pope-and-the-exorcism.html <– Note paragraphs 3, 16, 17, and 19.

            2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-scalia-spent-his-last-hours-with-members-of-this-secretive-society-of-elite-hunters/2016/02/24/1d77af38-db20-11e5-891a-4ed04f4213e8_story.html

          • It’s funny that I just got contacted on my blog by another Watchman that I haven’t heard from in a while, so if I get you mixed up, sorry.

          • I’m also that Watchman, lol. I have been reading your blogs as well since you shared the links with me above. Sorry for the confusion.

          • There is now substantial legal evidence/ proof that this posting contains several inaccuracies. Obama did not release the information on H, guccifer 2.0.
            did as cited in court documents with the assistance of rgr st one.
            We have to read this site carefully and prayerfully because even the elect are being decieved.

          • CONNIE, I have the desire to share something with you.
            Please read Apocalypse chapters 17 and 18 word by word, and please pray and ask GOD to show you who Babylon.
            Thanks!

      • Connie, I totally understand your logic, if it was true that any one of us has any direct power over who gets in….. I bet you haven’t been asked to consider this text in a long, long time……..

        Daniel 4:17  This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

        Psalm 75:7  But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.

        Isaiah 40:15  Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

        I know that it’s no longer taught that the Bible actually describes ‘the real reality of things’ anymore, but I finally found it to be emotionally necessary to believe in that.

        JAC1970

      • If you believe the Bible then you realize that Satan has been orchestrating world events for a very long time to get to that one point in time to wreak vengeance against God by attempting to exterminate the Jews once and for all. (various leaders throughout history have just been practice runs preparing for the main event) The presidential election this year has given us a choice, as you say, between a rock and a hard place. “insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” So I think that the choices we ended up with played right into Satan’s grand scheme; he has manipulated us so that no matter which we vote for we are “damned if we do, damned if we don’t” so to speak.

    • The American people have become the “Great falling away, church,” and that’s why she has succumbed to dark forces at work. When has the church really cared about some of our recent ills? It’s more concerned about being a business than a church. So many pastors are looking for the dollar sign, instead of preaching the truth. And the dollar sign corrupts them. Many are so jealous of other pastors, it rules their intent of those behind the pulpit. So, you’re right, with most of your assessments about Donald. I can’t say that He is the Anti-Christ, but he sure makes a good runner up for 2nd place. Jn

      • We now know that this comment is comical. But this is indeed the thinking of American evangelicalism. If anyone in the future, finds and reads this website and our country is destroyed, you will know why from threads like this one sadly.

    • It all leads up to Barack O bama . He Has all the qualities rather than just a few …… he claimed himself to be a God and is liked by many more people than Trump, therefore manipulating the majority of the small minded ignorant people ……….. also fake Christians, democrats, and atheists

  124. The antichrist will claim that he is a jew but he is not, and he belongs to the synagogue of satan; Illuminati, Free Masonry, Monarchies, Secret Societies, Vatican, Elite Bankers, Skulls and Bones; those who are controlling the economic, political, entertainment, and belief/religious systems of the entire world.

      • I wouldn’t be so sure about that, baba. I think a case linking Trump to the Jesuits could at least be made with due dilligence. I don’t think Trump is the Antichrist; however, according to scripture (2 Thess 2:1-10), if we truly are in the last days, there is a secret power of lawlessness that has been at work – separate from but still falling under Satan’s domain (note verse 9) – since the very beginning. I take this to mean that we are all going to be shocked when we have our eyes opened to the full extent of the deceit and manipulation on the part of the world. Writing a guy like Trump off as being too dumb to be part of any secret society might be exactly what Satan hopes we’ll do. Not every conspiracy is a theory.

        • I think everyone should take a look at his son in law. Who’s headquarters is at 666 Fifth Ave. Who has big $ (trillons possibly) tied up with Russia, China, Europe and the Midle East. He claims to be an orthodox Jew and Trump thinks he can bring peace to Israel and Palistine in spite of the fact their plan is to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem. He will also be Trump’s #1 advisor and confidant. And just because scripture says ,he has no use for women doesn’t mean he doesn’t use them as cover. I’ve always seen the AC coming to power behind a front man. That he takes power later. Also it is the followers of Christ who bring him to power. Well the Trump administration would have NEVER came to power without Evangelicals of whom 81% voted for this administration.

          • Great thought Lori! This could be very true. The fact that this person could take many forms to get to where he wants to be.

          • The Bible clearly states most Christians will be deceived. Yall too busy looking for Jesus while Satan smacks you in the face.

          • Where does it clearly say most Christians will be deceived? It says there will be a falling away from faith, but there is no percentage given. I think when the tribulation comes, there will be those in apostasy who turn back to Christ, for the number on the sea of glass is a great multitude, and there will be some who just fall away completely. But I don’t think most Christians will be deceived, otherwise the number of martyrs on that sea of glass wouldn’t be so great.

          • I totally concur. Sadness to see that the antichrist is now living in the White House and bringing the once Great country to disgrace at every opportunity! Donald Trump is nothing but a disgrace to himself, his family and the American people who voted him into office. A once united world is now being left chaotic at every inch of his action and he is left to get away with it. He is definitely unfit to hold the prestigious title of American ‘President’! America was once respected in many parts of the world but not anymore.

          • Agreed. But the religious right who voted him into power won’t realize there are significant dangers until they can find a way to blame Obama instead. It’s a very sad and serious time..

          • So true, but the deception was psycho microtargeting, it’s pointless to get most Christian to understand why their blinded. They simply can’t hear us. The deception is just too thick.

          • Lori, you think just like I do.. Again, you’re right! The Son-in-law of “The Donald,” will be ready and waiting to take his place in Jerusalem as our ambassador. There’s no body else, that the Jewish community would accept. He fits all of their requirements. He is extremely good looking, wealthy beyond most imaginations, highly educated as an Orthodox Jew, he knows the Jewish law precisely, and ambitious to make a change in Israel. They’re going to feel safe with him, and with his family. And his family includes Donald Trump. (I can sort of believe in a dual leadership- One rules in United States, and the other rules in Jerusalem.) Both have access to weapons codes, economies of many nations, and ties that we will never know about. The man who ends up being the Anti-Christ, or those of his close advisers, will not be the individuals that most people would think of as being intrinsically evil. And yet sometimes, if you want to hide something from any body, the best way of doing this is, to put it right in front of them, under their noses. I could easily believe that I might have gotten this wrong, with this idea. After all, Jared is a wonderful man. He would absolutely be the right man for the right season. Why not be our ambassador?We not be even a ruler? We have got to be careful. A delusion can easily happen, even if we believe that we might be right. Jn

          • I totally agree with this assessment and have been studying Jared’s candidacy on many levels since January and particularly when #45 announced on 1/9 that “if anyone can broker peace in the Middle East, its Jared (sic). He possesses an inordinate set of coincidental competencies that align with prophesy. WATCH JARED!

          • The followers of Christ do not bring antichrist to power. All who have rejected Jesus will. The liberals will Love antichrist. And most Christians will know who he is and reject him but you have to read the Word of God and have knowledge of His word. All of it or you will be deceived. In Daniel chapter 11, it says antichrist comes out of Turkey, (gog, magog).

          • Most “Christians” are too busy worshipping America, security, ease, and safety, and trying to force people to assume a form of godliness for their (these “Christians”) own comfort (rather than drawing people to Christ through love and teaching about Christ) to succeed in withstanding the antichrist. That is why he will be able to deceive them. (You see, to tell and win people to Christ is to become uncomfortable, and have to exercise patience and long suffering, etc. And these so called followers of Christ do not wish to do that. It takes them out of their comfort zones.). Instead of waiting for Christ to establish things by his own power, they become impatient for paradise, and they will seek to empower someone to bring about heaven on earth for them. Remember, Jesus Christ does not need to be empowered.

            I do not believe Donald Trump is the anti-Christ. But he represents the spirit of it. And much of the evangelical church represents the spirit within the Bridal party of Christ, which will try to establish a form a godliness without considering the essentiality of the Spirit of Christ. Again, this is their way of creating paradise for themselves.

          • Agree. But I do believe trump is a end time be a s t. Oh the horror that awaits. Even now as it becomes more clear … No one can stop him.

        • Check the Son-in law– he’s the one that’s supposed to broker the Middle-east peace deal !
          Mysterious but said to be Trumps number one advisor at 36 years of age and know previous government
          experience ! BTW- considered a genius who’s been rich ever since his 20’s and built a high-rise building in New York who’s address is 666 ! Check it!

        • I believe it is Putin who is the anti christ and Trump the false prophet. Putin has great wealth and desire for world dominance. He could very well be using Trumpt to build his temple. If you follow along with Adam Khan on Twitter and start seeing all the ties and corruption with Russia it is as if the prophecies are unfolding.

          • I don’t see Trump as a religious leader. That’s what the false prophet is. The pope is a better candidate.

        • Secret power of lawlessness=Cambridge Analytics, psycho microtargeting, rus-sian govt spying to control power grid, chemical poisonings, backing Isis global attacks, which cease under trump mysteriously, secret meetings in the Seychelles, back channels, internet research agency, $$$$ loans to kushner comp. ivsn sitting in put in chair coverup and paying off women with no regard etc..

          • the article is completely right, but you cannot convince all the people , simply because it is our destiny, and nobody can change it . The only difference is that we who know the truth we will not be shocked as the others .

          • Check the Son-in law– he’s the one that’s supposed to broker the Middle-east peace deal !
            Mysterious but said to be Trumps number one advisor at 36 years of age and know previous government
            experience ! BTW- considered a genius who’s been rich ever since his 20’s and built a high-rise building in New York who’s address is 666 ! Check it!

          • Check the Son-in law– he’s the one that’s supposed to broker the Middle-east peace deal !
            Mysterious but said to be Trumps number one advisor at 36 years of age and know previous government
            experience ! BTW- considered a genius who’s been rich ever since his 20’s and built a high-rise building in New York who’s address is 666 ! Check it! I’ve also noticed Trump using the Masonic grip when shaking hands and lastly Trump was groomed by the famous ruthless lawyer Roy Cohen- a key figure behind the persecution of Americans during McCarthyism !

          • Would he have to build it? The symbolic association is enough unless there is space in scripture indicating that as a prerequisite indicator and he is brokering the sale of it to Chinese investors who are in alignment with Russia.. BTW: Lucent Tech (the co devising the 666 chip is also located in that building…coincidence? ). The Russian (God/Magog) and China (Kings of the East) are in a choreographed dance just as the bible predicts against Israel. Russia has supported China in amassing arms and China (Xi) and Russia (Putin) have already formed an alliance. Now, all that’s needed is Jared as the middle east broker posing as the Messiah–false of course!

          • The 666 does not have anything to do with numbers on a building. The Word of God says it is the number of his name. I know the 666 in Greek is the same as the Arabic name of allah. And it doesn’t matter how much money they have or who they know because the Word of God gives us the prophecies until the time later more sealed prophecies will be opened so we don’t know who the antichrist is yet. Daniel 11 says he comes out of Turkey gog magog.

          • Of course you disagree. You’re too busy staring at your “I Love Trumm” poster lolol just kidding, love your blogs and thank and praise the Lord for you.

            But you are clearly a psy-opted trump supporter and that’s okay too
            You’re also a gift to the body of Christ in this space.

    • You’re right eaglet. But He doesn’t have to prove that He is a Jew. His daughter converted to the Jewish faith. All He has to do is be part of the family. Ivanka, will take the place of 1st lady in the White House soon, and her husband holds huge military connections and companies in Israel. Those secret societies are already in Jerusalem and they will give their allegiance to Him. It’s pretty plan to see events coming to pass without much difficulty. Jn

      • Mr Croley has no authority to write about prophecy. He is a lunatic leading other looneys as is shown by the comments! You evangelical morons will believe anything any new “pastor” writes. That’s because your entire understanding of Sacred Scripture is misunderstanding. None of you is ordained because your clergy are self declared. Only the clergy of those Churches that can trace their bishops back to the Twelve Apostles of Our Lord Jesus Christ are valid clergy. And because of that lack of continuity you have 33,000 splinter “churches” in the United States alone! Only the Catholic Church and the Orthodox have valid clergy. And don’t give me that nonsense about Constantine the Great “starting” the catholic Church!

        • Hello Jack D,

          I never claimed to be a pastor, prophet, member of the clergy, etc. As for being a “lunatic”, well that isn’t the worst thing I’ve been called and considering that I like my cheeseburgers without the cheese perhaps I am one! :p

          • Wayne, you are one of the very few people that I consider worth reading. And that is due to not only because you are spiritually discerning, but your scholarship is exemplary. You are too humble and too nice to put these people in their place. I on the other hand feel no such qualms. Maybe that is a little unChristian of me, in some ways, but I can’t stand injustice.

          • Connie. I have read the Bible. And found many places where it says it will be the believers that will be deceived. For they are always looking for a savior. Jesus say to the disciples beware there will be many people who rise and say that I am Christ (first person meaning Jesus himself) these people will not declare themselves as Christ But will declare that Jesus is Christ And attempt to use his name for justification on actions they take whether good or evil. Jesus himself says do not be deceived by these people. Just because they come in Christ name does not mean that they are good people. Revelations 2.2 John begins to describe who is a false prophet. He describes the apostle to Ephesus to be false. Of course the only apostle to Ephesus is Paul. And there I believe John is telling us who the followers are that will be deceived Paul declares himself a Pharisee long after his conversion and Jesus himself warns us about the Pharisees and there hypocrisy and how they will travel the oceans evangelizing and the only thing they achieve is to make themselves twice as fit for hell. There are literally hundreds of scriptures that stick to trump(little horn) and the antichrist and the followers of Paul are gathered to defend him at every corner. Christians right now are persecuting the world. They are in control of the most powerful military the world has ever seen. They can make fire fall from the sky. They are using every excuse in the world to kill people across the world for oil and power. These are antichrist actions. Somebody asked god why he made the world. And god says to be inhabited and the only true abomination is desolation. And right now the USA Russia Europe all descendants of Paul’s teaching are burning up the world and destroying anything that gets in their way all the while saying they are Christian and doing things in Christ name. Christianity has become lawlessness Sure they hate homosexuality but follow religious leaders who are sexually deviant and give into divorce. These sins are equal in the eyes of god. You strain nats out of your soup. And swallow a camel. Here is your best sign. Christianity is at war with Islam why because Paul says that Ishmael is the son of the bondwomen and Isaac is the son of the free women. Free from what gods law that’s how Paul explains it. Trump is the epitome of evil. Gods sends you these test to find out if a civilization is worthy of continued existence and when a people decide that money is a stronger god then god slams the door on them and finds another people to test. Don’t fail your test

          • I disagree with your belief on Paul. He was not the only apostle out there. And just because a person calls themselves a Christian does not make them one. A Christian is one with a personal relationship with Jesus. It is not a religion it is a relationship. I will not be deceived. And God made it clear in the Old Testament that Isaac was the one God had chosen. Paul was merely teaching what God had already made clear.

          • Oh, Danny boy,….I have been waiting for someone to challenge and defend yourself against Connie’s opinions of everyone’s statements on this website. Thank you very much. You have justified yourself. Couldn’t have said it better.
            And you’re extremely right when you say, that many Christian’s are wicked and do horrible things to the earth and it’s people. A lie can go along way…(The Donald seems to think so. He has been pretty good at that since his birth.) It would be appalling if we were to know, how many things that were done in the name of the Lord, during WW2. Maybe then the making of the atom bomb would have never built. We may have to taste what it’s like to be hit with a weapon of mass destruction soon, if the ruler of N. Korea has his way.
            Somehow evil always begets evil. The true Christian would be standing in the gap, in prayer and fasting, so that it doesn’t happen to any human being, Christian or not,… We forget, that every once in awhile, a true Samaritan comes out of the wood work and shows his humanity and Godly dignity, and becomes that Christ-like figure that we should have been. Yes, a lot of Christians are phonies, but for every phony, there are the true one’s who will lay down their lives for their brethren. Love in Christ. Jn

          • I wanted to add one more thing to my last statement, we should all be seeking God’s face right now, as the Pacific is about to explode. If VX nerve agent were to be put on a missile, it would constitute a war crime. And help any country that it lands on, or oceans it falls into…one sign of tribulation is, that the seas would turn to blood. VX will cause cranial bleeding- all sea flesh would be subject to it, and bloody seas will exist. So I implore all of you to start praying and proving that our God is an awesome God. Because only His hand will be able to undo this mess. Please keep in mind that, the country that aggressively attacks another may, or may not be a Christian nation. We all need to check our hearts and attitudes because, unless we listen to our God, we will indeed close our own door, and God himself may lock it for us. Just like you said Dan, we will deserve what we give out. Jn

        • As for Roman Catholicism Ill just give a Statement and that should suffice. Are they not the very ones who injected the doctrine of the trinity by threatning ERASMUS for leaving out the “these three are one” the father the son and the holy spirit. Now ERASMUS stated that he would be happy to include that in his next printing of the bible if the catholic church would provide a Latin Vulgate that had that particular set of words in it bcuz the ones that he had to use some of them going all the way back to the 4th century in age,none of his manuscripts said that at all. Not to mention that the church produced a Latin Vulgate with the words of the trinity and ERASMUS was forced to print it in his next addition. Also didnt they go steal a granite obelisk from egypt and then proceed to place it in the area in rome declared as peters bones are allegedly buried at and then the pope hadf gotton the creeps and had one of his minions place a cross on top of the obelisk.The catholic church is by no means on any better level than anyone else and to insinuate that is laughable. There always talking about demons and all this other stuff all the time which if they really had a clue then they would know that there is no suchj thing,being as the we get our word “demon” from the latin word daemon which comes from the root word “daio” which means to distribute fortunes. And the word daemon ” ios a distributor of fortunes, but seeing as the money is the root of all evil it seems to all just kinda easily connect and make sense when you just know a few verb stems and conjugated verbs which are in exact meaning and therefore cant be twisted like the enghlish bible is seeing as how in greek there is 24 different ways to say the definite article “the” where in our language there is only one way. But all that aside God has everybody at a certain point just right where they need to be at and that they are receptive on the level; that they can be at the time. Nobody is gonna ever believe all the same thing in the bible bcuz theres too muich versatility in the world for that to be so. just bcuz opne person doesnt agree doesnt necessarily make the person they are disagreeing with wrong either. God is cool and he certainly has a sense of humor. And just might possibly be the best computer programmer youve ever known seeing as he knows the beginning fgrom the end and of course he does bcuz he wrote the program. we very well likley just might be living inside of a matrix. Bcuz what has been done will be done again there is nothing new under the sun.

          • I like this Ricky ! Yep one big computer hard drive we call the “Universe” with God sitting at the terminal running his program called “life” Exciting thing is – his program is getting to a climax and we ain’t seen nothing yet! I’m watching and waiting – the big fella is getting ready…The TRUMPets are sounding!

          • One thing that I will point out is that money is not the root of evil…the love of money is. That is to say by loving money you have made it your “god” thereby breaking the commandment “Thou shalt have no false gods before Me”.
            (This is one of the most often misquoted parts of Scripture).
            Our God knows that we all need money in some form to survive in this world and He does not belittle us for having or wanting it as long as we keep it in the proper peperspective.

          • Exactly what do you see Trump doing that will endear him to the Muslims, since they will also accept the AC as the Mahdi? They hate him.

          • I voted for Trump knowing full well that he may indeed be the AC. Not because I am a fan or supporter of satan, but because it is quite evident that the End Times are upon us and in order for the prophecies in Revelation to come to pass the Antichrist must rise to power (and Trump is a whole lot less evil than Clinton).
            Our only option now is what it has always been…trust that the creator of our universe knows what He is doing and that He will protect and defend His people.

          • Only God can open their eyes now. They expected Obama to be the AC and it’s too painful to even consider anything else. What have we done by electing this be a s t,??

        • No, Peter was not the rock on which the church was built. Christ is the rock of our salvation. He is the only rock upon which the church is built. Christ said, ” And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, (Petros) and upon this rock (petra) I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” It wasn’t Peter, but the statement of faith that came right before this, that Jesus was the Christ, that the church would be built upon. The Church is made up of believers who accept that Jesus is the Christ, just as Peter accepted Him. Jesus is the rock of our salvation. Peter can do nothing for us. He can build no church.

          • Agreed. Consider the following:

            1 Peter 4

            17 For it is time that the judgment begins from the house of God; and if it first begins with us, what shall the end be of those that do not obey the gospel of God?

            Everyone believes they have the Antichrist and eschatology, in general, pegged within their own brand of escapist theology. Never mind that the Lord is going to judge His own house first, by means of trials and tribulations, before ever moving on with judging unbelievers. Unbeilievers and wounded believers still need an opportunity to see Christ for who He is, and that’s to be accomplished through a “congregation without spot or wrinkle” (Eph 5:28) who will represent Him as He truly is.

            We see trigger-happy Christians who want a secret rapture, where those who remain can simply suffer a tribulation that they themselves will supposedly avoid. I personally believe this is what the Lord is referring to in Revelation, as He tells the Ephesians they have fallen from their first love, which is charity (Greek “agape”), the sacrificial love that proceeds only from God, Himself.

            There is a requirement of unity within the body of Christ, yet we see nothing of the sort. The City of Religion elected Trump and it seems he will likely bring judgement upon God’s house (Israel and the Church), as he is exposed as the/an Antichrist and/or Beast, that in turn exposes a large sector of Judeo-Christianity as the False Prophet. However, let’s also not forget that Beasts actually represent governments, throughout the book of Daniel.

            Regardless, Peter also pointed out there is no private interpretation of prophecy (2 Peter 1:20). As such, I’m continually amazed at how people can take an English version of the Scriptures and attempt to apply their literal suppositions to earthly political and religious figures. English, as a language, has bordered on the definition of a Babylonian dialogue, for centuries, given Babylon literally means, confusion. There is no language more confusing – just ask anyone trying to learn English.

            We need to stop with all the literal conjectures and accept that the Lord is Spirit, His word is Spiritual, and that Word can only be discerned by those who posess the mature mind of Christ. Consider what the “Holy Place” truly was – the place where the Priests carried out their intercession, yet were separated from the Most Holy Place by a veil. This separation doesn’t even exist in Ezekiel’s description of the temple. The “Holy Place” simply doesn’t equivalate the entire Temple, at Jerusalem.

            The Lord Jesus tore the literal Temple down and raised a Spirtual Temple in 3 days. That Spiritual Temple is made of “Living Stones” (1 Peter 2:5) and therefore it’s likely there is no place in prophecy for a man-made temple that carries any serious implication.

            We need to face the fact that the “abomination of desolation” is most likely a defunct system of intercession by a clergy-laity system within organized religion – otherwise known as the practice of the Nicolaitans, which the Lord says he hates (Rev. 2). Let’s be real and admit there was no known city of “Nicolatia”, in antiquity. In Greek, nico means “against” and laitan means “laity” or “common people”. By the end of the 1st century there was a class system of clergy and laity, and to this day it still resembles that which the LORD never intended, beginning with the Exodus and the Israelites refusing to hear directly from God. As such, they wanted Moses to be their intermediary.

            The Lord wants us joined directly to Him, and not to a pastor or priest or some other intermediary. It’s simply not enough to take someone else’s word for what the Lord wants to say to us, individually. Let’s stop being lazy or scared or whatever the issue is that’s keeping us from hearing directly from God.

            Prophecy is dynamic in that it unfolds from mystery to revelation, over time. Consider that even Daniel was told to rest, just as we are to rest in the fact our Father has this all under control. The only thing He asks is for us to do is “believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:28-29), then rest in what He has done.

            So, what is the definition of an antichrist? Is is not the antithesis of Jesus, the Christ? Jesus was a mature man that had grown in stature and found grace in the eyes of men – he was never seen as being childish. Jesus was meek (obedient)
            to his earthly parents and Heavenly Father. Jesus showed self-restraint. Jesus sacrificed his own comfort and majesty in order to share his life with us. Jesus always spoke the truth. Jesus called out unrighteousness as he lived a righteous life. Jesus was brave and unwavering. Jesus never promoted himself. Jesus cared for the lost sheep of Israel – he didn’t isolate them and leave them to the wolves. Jesus was the Great Shepherd.

            Does Mr. Trump exemplify ANY of these qualities? No, Trump is an antichrist, and given we are at the prophetic juncture for the revealing of the Antichrist, I think he makes a great candidate for bringing about God’s purposes for this late hour. If we want to understand prophecy we need to make sure our heart is right with God. Only the “pure in heart shall see God”. Only the “meek shall inherit the earth”. I’m sorry, but that leaves a whole lot of Churcianity to be found wanting.

            Finally, this has far more to do with qualifying to reign with Chist in His millennial Kingdom, as opposed to receiving eternal life. Yes, the latter is also at stake, but I fear the “nashing of teeth” in the “outer darkness” will have to do with what believers forfeited in order to remain “carnal Christians” and focused on the things of this world.

        • This is a quote from a previous pope:

          “We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” – Pope Boniface VIII, Bull* Unam Sanctam*

          … I am subject to no pope!! Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords!! He alone is my Savior!
          Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone!!

    • Actually if you research his religion he is a free mason! Also in this article the interpretation about not caring of the desires of women means he doesn’t care about the women’s desires! Nothing to do with getting married or lust!

        • Where on earth did you get the idea that the desire of women is the Virgin Mary? In what way do you think women desire her?

          • The Catholics prays to the Virgin Mary, this makes her a god to them ignorantly. God Almighty is Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Omnipresent, If every catholics pray to Mary all at the same time from different places, and they believe she hears and answers prayers, then that will qualify her as a god.

            The context of the verses is about the antichrist having no regard to any gods. Mentioning the words “the desire of women” is pointless if you think this has nothing to do with gods. Daniel 11:37 says, the antichrist will magnify himself above all, does that includes he will magnify himself above the desire of women?

          • eaglet, their praying to statues of Mary and the other “saints” is one of the reasons I left the Catholic church when I was a child, the priests got very upset at me for pointing out the God is against the worship of idols.