Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?

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U.S. President Donald Trump is always in the news. He’s an unusual figure in American Politics because he comes conducts himself in a way that many in politics are not used to.

Trump is also polarizing figure. People either love him or hate him. Trump is so polarizing that I’ve received many comments and questions from people who wonder whether he is the Antichrist.

In this article, I will address whether Donald Trump is the Antichrist.

Observations About Trump & the Antichrist

First, I want to make it clear that I will try my best to analyze Trump as neutrally as I can. I may have some positive or some negative things to say about Trump. Please understand that I do this as an analyst rather than someone who is a Trump opponent or is a Trump supporter.

I will proceed by stating some observations about Trump and compare these observations with many people’s expectation of the Antichrist.

Pride & Ego

Trump is a very prideful man, to say the least. He likes to boast about himself and rarely admits when he’s made a mistake publicly.

Meanwhile, Daniel 11:36 and Daniel 8:25 suggest that the Antichrist will have an immense ego:

“And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.” (Daniel 11:36)

“And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.” (Daniel 8:25)

Mideast Peace Negotiator

Trump often boasts about the foreign policy deals he’s made. He’s said on occasion that he wants to try to broker the hardest deal of them all: a Mideast peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

Meanwhile, many expect Antichrist to help confirm a Mideast peace deal-the “covenant with many” in Daniel 9:27:

“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.” (Daniel 9:27)

Charismatic Leader

Trump is a skilled speaker. He is adept at speaking publicly with or without relying on a teleprompter.

Some skeptics question the substance of what Trump says. But, Trump is able to endear himself to a large number of Americans with what he says and the style that he says it.

Meanwhile, many people expect Antichrist to be a demagogue who uses his charisma to attract people to his side as he accumulates power.

Do I Think Trump the Antichrist?

Based on these statements, you might conclude that I think Donald Trump is the Antichrist. However, I strongly believe that Donald Trump is not the Antichrist. Here are several reasons why:

Super Popular vs Super Unpopular

Revelation 6:1-2 depicts Antichrist as a rider on a white horse. This imagery suggests that Antichrist may become so popular that the world will view him as a messianic figure:

“(1) And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. (2) And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.” (Revelation 6:1-2)

Trump is the farthest thing from being viewed as a messianic figure by the world.

  • Many people dislike Trump and will go to great lengths to protest against him and to resist him.
  • Some of Trump’s opponents do not view him as the world’s savior but as one of the world’s biggest threats.

Trump will never command the admiration of the world like the Antichrist will.

The Desire of Women

Daniel 11 indicates that the Antichrist will not be someone who will desire women in his life:

“Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” (Daniel 11:37)

Trump has been married multiple times and is currently married to his wife Melania (with whom they have a son named Barron).

The Peak of Arrogance

The Antichrist will sit in a temple in Jerusalem someday and demand that the world worship him like God.

“(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)

Trump is a very prideful man. But, does anyone seriously think that he is so arrogant that he would demand the world to worship him and order the deaths of anyone who refuses to worship him?

Trump sometimes will ridicule a vocal critic of his. However, he hasn’t used his presidential powers to order the execution of his critics.

  • If you watch Trump’s rallies since he’s become president, you will notice that he will sometimes call for the ejection of vocal opponents. Most of the time, Trump will tell the officials ejecting his opponents to not harm them.

It takes a different level of megalomania to demand the deaths of your critics.

A Different Level of Charisma

Trump is a skilled speaker, but he is not close to being as charismatic as the Antichrist will be. As I’ve stated previously, Antichrist will be even more charismatic than Adolf Hitler, a man who hypnotized an entire nation with his demonic charisma.

I’ve watched footage of Hitler speak and I’ve watched Trump speak many times. The comparison is not even close. Trump does not have the charisma that Hitler had and the charisma that Antichrist will have.

The Ultimate Globalist

Antichrist will seek to dominate the world in the fields of economics, politics, and religion. In this sense, the Antichrist will be the ultimate globalist.

Trump, on the other hand, opposes globalism. In fact, Trump said in a key foreign policy speech::

“No country has ever prospered that failed to put its own interests first. Both our friends and our enemies put their countries above ours and we, while being fair to them, must start doing the same.

We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism.

The nation-state remains the true foundation for happiness and harmony. I am skeptical of international unions that tie us up and bring America down, and will never enter-and under my administration-we will never enter America into any agreement that reduces our ability to control our own affairs.”1

Trump believes in a self-described “American First” foreign policy. As a result, he’s unlikely to support the efforts to create a one-world government at the expense of the U.S.’s sovereignty.

In contrast, Antichrist is someone who would embrace the efforts to unite the world in fields like politics and economics.

The Ability to Defeat His Strongest Opponents

Daniel 11 indicates that the Antichrist will attack the strongest opponents and win:

“(38) But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. (39) Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.” (Daniel 11:38-39)

Although the context of Daniel 11:38-39 is the Antichrist’s ability to defeat his foes militarily, the passage indicates that the Antichrist will defeat the strongest of opponents.

In contrast, Trump is not an unstoppable force at the time of this writing. Trump is struggling to get his legislative agenda passed in the U.S. Congress. How is Trump going to rule the world when he cannot even get Congress to agree to give him the money to pay for the wall he’s promised?

Trump Recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital

Trump startled many across the world when he moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem and recognized the city as Israel’s capital. Please realize that the move is not the confirmation of the “covenant with many” of Daniel 9:27. It’s not the event that will trigger the tribulation.

Trump’s move is really the farthest thing from the confirmation of the covenant with many. Many criticized the move as unnecessary, unilateral, and even harmful to the peace process. The covenant with many will have many sides agree to a deal. Trump’s move lacked the support of many of the countries involved in the future covenant with many.

It will be tough for Trump to broker a Mideast peace deal in the geopolitical environment he’s created. I believe Trump’s move greatly increases the likelihood that a non-U.S. president brokers a Mideast peace deal in the future (and thereby increases the likelihood that the Antichrist will be a non-U.S. president).

Conclusion

In sum, I strongly disagree with the idea that Donald Trump is the Antichrist of the end times. Whether or not you like Trump, please understand that Antichrist is on a completely different level.

  1. Transcript: Donald Trump’s Foreign Policy Speech. The New York Times, 27 Apr. 2016, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/us/politics/transcript-trump-foreign-policy.html.

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721 thoughts on “Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?”

  1. Must too early to say if he is or isn’t. Personally, I believe the test of time will prove one way or another. That time being 3 1/2 years. Let’s see what transpires in the life of President Trump mid-year, 2020. Will he negotiate a deal for world peace? Will the world be amazed at something he does? Will all his detractors suddenly look upon him as a messianic figure? Just remember, even the elect will be deceived by the beast.

  2. Can anyone argue that Donald Trump ISN’T the physical embodiment of all 7 deadly sins. (Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Wrath, Envy, Pride, Sloth.) Donald Trump exceeds in all of these areas. The only sin that isn’t obvious is Envy, but Trump has already stated that he is envious of the power that dictators such as Putin have. Trumps followers have elevated him to the status of saviour in their minds. As of this date he has told more than 10,000 lies since taking office and even his own legal team admits that he is incapable of telling the truth. Can anyone argue that he isn’t the undisputed Lord of Lies. He may not have done all of the things prophesised in the Bible, yet, but he still has at least another year and a half in office. If he isn’t the Antichrist, he’s a very believable lookalike.

        1. My comment was not made on your facebook page, nor should it have become the topic of conversation. Please remove it, for you do not have my permission to put it there.

  3. I know all this to be true, but I have feeling Obama is the Antichrist but……he does have a wife? So its semi a debunk until further power in authority! The Antichrist will not have a wife, sounds like a pope or priest, a pastor of some sort? Putin has a wife as well so let’s look out for a political man whom is a transgender and from the middle east without a wife?

  4. Everything you wrote can be applied to Obama, and for that matter, ANY socialist “democrat”. I really dont think the Lord God wants us to live in tyranny and the evils of socialism. Why is freedom evil? Why is liberty “anti-christ” like?

    1. I don’t know of anyone, be it me, Wayne, Connie or ____ that believes freedom is evil or that liberty is antichrist. To whom and what are you referring?

  5. Hello Wayne and prophecy folks. I noticed these comments are happening farther and farther in-between. My last post received virtually no replies. I’ve tried to find a place to keep this conversation going. (I believe it’s worthy.) I decided to post on my FaceBook page. I’m hoping Wayne will let me leave a link. (Guess I’ll soon find out.) There is massive – and I mean massive – information on the page regarding Trump and the Antichrist, including but not limited to, large excerpts (chapters) from my book. Please let me know what you think. I covet your “likes”, if you are so inclined.

    God bless,

    https://www.facebook.com/RiseOfTheLittleHorn/

  6. Hello Folks,

    I’m back (sort of). I needed to step away from the back-and-forth grind and fatigue that I’m sure many of you have suffered from due to posting in forums. To refresh your memory, I’m the author of the book, Rise of the Little Horn — a book written before the presidential election with the not so subtle conclusion that Donald Trump was/is the AC. I believe most objections are, in fact, covered between its pages.

    If those whose disagree care to push back against that, I welcome the challenge of answering your objections. Please, give me one or two of your strongest points. Those of you who remember me know that I am (annoyingly) thorough. Don’t bombard me — please!

    Thanks and God bless you all!!

    If I don’t hear from you, I’ll just assume everyone here is finally on board — wink, wink.

    P.S. — Not sure how difficult it is to scroll back or search old posts, but last year, I responded, piece by piece, to each any every point in Wayne’s article. Thanks again to you Wayne for graciously allowing me to do that.

    1. Jonathan,
      It seems that I can’t get on the internet without bumping into you, lol.
      You may remember me, you sent me a copy of your book; I enjoyed reading it. I made the mistake of letting someone borrow it, and now it appears that it’s lost… maybe it will turn up again. I hope you and your family are doing well. Don’t ask how I’m doing please.
      I can’t say that I have changed my position one Trump; for the most part, I still believe he is the second beast, and not the first. I’m under the persuasion that many of those scriptures in Daniel are actually referring to the second beast and not the first. You may remember that I said that Ronald Reagan was a better fit for the biblical description of the first Beast; I still believe that to be true. However, I am wide open for the possibility that I’m wrong, and devilish Don is the first Beast, and not the second.
      Look forward to talking again.

  7. Trump is absolutely the ANti Christ. My interpretation is in regards to the women not accompanying him. He has always had an illusion of a wife but not a true partner. Melanie is rarely with Trump. The worshipping is already happening. He is purposefully gaining access to Israel and his form of worship is the rallies by blind followers. He is charismatic , as the Bible says but is the liar and deceiver . It is clear to me.
    My entire life, I have had a reaccuring dream. It is of doomsday. I’m a survivor in a cave . I am still youngish . I’m 50 now so I think it will be in the next ten years.

  8. Yes.Trump history of womanizing disqualify him as antichrist, per Daniel.
    The concern is his unAmerican style hatred for immigrants in refusing amnesty or resolve of immigration reform like Regan.Many are concerned about Trump October 2020 Federal I’D law.Will the undocumented be hurled into FEMA camps for lack of legal papers or lD.There is no solution to this elephant in the room.Wayne Crowly, will you please write your thoughts on this topic. Reports say that even immigrants seeking to become legal and show up to appointments are ambushed by lCE and deported before a chance in a hearing.What about their lawyers showing up for them instead of taking risk as protection?
    This is a Nazi situation descending on America.
    1st Jews
    2nd Blacks
    Now minority immigrants eith black/brown skin!

    1. I am not worried about people being thrown into FEMA camps at this time. I heard reports that people would be thrown into FEMA camps if they didn’t have health care back when Obamacare was introduced. There’s so much sensationalism and hysteria in the news. There was 10 years ago. There is now.

    2. Hi Dave,

      Daniel 11:37 simply says that the AC will give no regard to the things women care about. It says nothing of his sexual preferences.

  9. Hahahahahahahaha
    Og course he is The AC He is just a human Shell Boeing manipulated by “The Scary Devil” it is laughable to see The Sheep WHO love him

  10. Having just attended a two day prophecy conference where I heard the information given by Gary Kah, a man who worked in the government as a foreign trade specialist and left it to start a ministry to expose all that he had learned behind the scenes, it makes no sense that anyone can say that Donald Trump is the antichrist. The powers that oppose him are trying desperately to get rid of him because he stands in the way of their global NWO agenda to bring in the antichrist government. He is a nationalist. He is improving the economy. He is doing everything that is against the NWO agenda and that is why they are so furious. It is a strange plan to put such a man in the place of president, who is stopping them from bringing forth the NWO, a plan they have been implementing for many decades now. It makes no sense whatsoever that he would work against himself in such a way if he were the antichrist. Obviously he is not.

      1. It is a strange deception that pits the man against the entire agenda that would bring in the very situation that is needed to make him the antichrist. Obama and that lot are the New World Order. They are trying to take Trump down because he is anti-New World Order by being a nationalist and a capitalist. Neither of those things fit with the plans to bring in the antichrist. They are desperately trying to destroy this country economically and turn us into a socialist state for the antichrist. So exactly why is there a shadow government that undermines him at every turn if he is the very man they are waiting for? Only those who are so blinded by listening to the fake media instead of observing the truth of the situation think that Trump is the antichrist. If he is, he is working against his own people and agenda. That makes no sense whatsoever, but then neither does liberalism.

        1. Follow of Christ

          think about the AntiChrist doesn’t deceive the whole world yet – this is the beginning. He deceived the biggest democracy and “Christian nation”; this deception is the key to the AntiChrist taking over the world by creating a new world order => . the new world order with Putin etc oh the devil is a liar) yet ppl believe him and follow him blindly. Trump is the AntiChrist. he is a liar, and he will not leave office after this next election. BE READY for the reveal. We are still in the 1st half the tribulation…. it is when then the 2nd half of the tribulation – when the Antichrist reveals himself – He will force worship.

          1. I have to disagree with you that we are in the first half of the tribulation. We have not yet begun Daniel’s 70th week. Until the temple goes up, you are not in the 70th week. You’ll know who the beast is when he reveals himself. You may find you are not expecting who it will be after all. So maybe you will be the one surprised. And you might want to quit listening to the liberal news media. They are owned by the deep state and are into brainwashing. They are not giving you the facts.

          2. Jonathan Dane

            “I have to disagree with you that we are in the first half of the tribulation. We have not yet begun Daniel’s 70th week. Until the temple goes up, you are not in the 70th week.”

            Connie — I agree with you. (Scary, huh?)

    1. Donald Trump is a man of his word. He’s making the USA economically stronger day by day, and nationally safer. Getting the wall built will be a majorly victory for the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!! The USA had suffered a long, long, time through the disastrous Clinton, Bush Jr. and worst of all Obama administration, that took America into a whirling vortex of desent. President Trump is the first president in my lifetime who is fulfilling his campaign promises. All of the damn, irrational, opposition from the left is disgraceful and clearly demonstrates the lack of decorm that mires politics, the media, and so many folks in the entertainment industry. All of the Obamaphiles out there who regard that failure as some sort of god are beyond capable of thinking rationaly. Obama will go down as one of the worst presidents if not the worst president in history. Donald Trump is hated by close-minded ignornamuses because he’s a republican plain and simple. Open your frigging minds and stop regarding politics like it’s an f-ing religion. Great things are happening go now with Trump in power. So if the left wants to call him the most vulgar names under the sun, lie about him, and compare this great man to an imaginary demon, let them keep talking sh–. It means nothing to a majority of American’s who support and value President Trump for making America great again. Come election time 2020 and President Donald Trump will resume his duties as Commander and Chief, President of the United States of America!

      1. Donald Trump is a liar. This is undeniable, even by republicans. He is emotionally stunted and behaves like a child. All he cares about is the worship he receives from his base. That’s why he does a rally every time he is sad. And his nationalism is just a mask for his racism.

      2. Follower of Christ

        Paul, Trump has taken your eyes of Christ.. who do you serve? Trump has convince you that he is the only hope for America… We are broken as humans and we all need forgiveness and God’s Grace. ” President Trump is the first president in my lifetime who is fulfilling his campaign promises.” Great things are happening go now with Trump in power.” yet we are far removed from Christ. Matthew 25:31-46 – Trump has convinced ppl to forget about God …remember he plays sympathy for the devil at his rallies. he is telling us who is… he has never ask for forgiveness. Yet he secured a lot of the US evangelical vote. Again, the deception is not about about the world…. he deceived the US voters who elected him, he will use this power to deceive and gain the world – which will lead to Armageddon. He is setting the stage which the news…..Israel and Trumps peace plan. Watch the signs.

  11. Hello The Last Jedi.

    The four horsemen of the Apocalypse are described in Revelation chapter 6, verses 1-8. The four horsemen are symbolic descriptions of different events which will take place in the end times.

    The first horseman, which is in question here, of the Apocalypse is mentioned in Revelation 6:2: “I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.”

    This first horseman likely refers to the Antichrist, who will be given authority over the world and will through various means conquer all who oppose him. The antichrist is the false imitator of the true Christ, who will also return on a white horse (Revelation 19:11-16).

    I believe the white horse represents a time of unparrelled world peace, but a false peace. It’s rider is carrying a bow which represents war, but the absence of arrows implies that this victory is a bloodless one, a peace won by covenant and agreement, but not by war (Daniel 9:24-27). The crown the rider wears refers to the kind of laurel wreath awarded winning athletes. It was “given to him”. Here we see it is actually the antichrist who is riding the white horse, and becomes king of the world after being elected by the world’s inhabitants regardless of the cost. He will start out to conquer the entire earth in a bloodless coup, but in a short period of time war will break out under His domination.

    During a time of unparrelled international crisis, possibly due to the rapture of the true church, the bride of Christ (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; Revelation 4:1), the world will be desperately looking for such a leader, a savior who suddenly and symbolically appears on the scene riding a white horse holding out the symbolic olive branch of peace, not only between Israel and her neighboring enemies, but to the entire world as well.

  12. Quid Malmborg in Plano TX

    Donald J. Trump = Anti-Christ. He is the false Christ that Evilgelicals such as yourself blindly support and equivocate for 24-7. He has admitted to sexually assaulting women yet nowhere do you mention this.

    Melania Trump = Whore of Babylon. Consider her former “occupations.” Do the math, you little mathematician.

    1. Antichrist is going to be a beloved figured who will receive the worship and praise of the world. No matter whether you like him or not, we have to recognize that most of the world doesn’t like Trump. He’s not the one.

      1. Quid Malmborg in Plano TX

        Trump has a whore for a wife, so you’re not exactly looking at the evidence there. He’s playing you folks and you’re indulging him because you misguidedly believe that he’ll help bring about God’s Kingdom on Earth. Trump doesn’t believe that stuff, and he is only manipulating the gullible to his own ends. You religious hypocrites are selling out your own nation to a false prophet. Be not deceived- God is not mocked, and you mock God constantly with your support for Trump and the GOP.

        Your soul; your choice. Peace.

        1. For the record, I don’t believe he will help bring God’s Kingdom on Earth. I’m not optimistic about America’s future, especially with the way things have been heading. Peace.

          1. Join the discussion..The popular idea that the Antichrist will be loved by everybody overlooks a couple of important things the Bible tells us about the Beast.

            First, the Antichrist will only be worshiped by those who are doomed to take his mark and perish with him in the lake of fire. But everyone whose name is written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will not worship him, they will remain faithful to Jesus Christ. It is to be expected that as he begins to rise to power, the streets would be filled with protesters and weeping in the streets. It is understandable that such a vile person would trouble many people.

            Second, the Antichrist will not just appear and fulfill all the prophecies in one day. The prophecies will all be fulfilled – but over time. Antichrist will grow in power and influence from “a little horn, which GREW exceedingly great” (see Dan 8:9). He will be worshiped by all the lost people of the world, but not from the start. He will win people over as time passes, and grow in influence.
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          2. It’s true that the Antichrist will be worshipped by only those who will take the Mark of the Beast. However, most people alive at that time will accept the Mark of the Beast. There will be a great falling away prior to the unveiling of the Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2), so don’t expect the number of Christians in the world to be large at the time of Antichrist.

            Also, I agree that the Antichrist will not fulfill all the prophecies in one day. He will start from humble beginnings before he rises to power. Antichrist may have people who oppose him initially. It’s hard for any leader to avoid opposition starting out. Hitler faced opposition from different groups in Germany when as he rose to power.

            But, the rider of the white horse will be seen as a messianic type of a figure. Antichrist will be seen by a messianic figure at some point in his career. Many opponents hate Trump so much that they will never seen him as a messianic figure. They despise him so much that they will resist his ideas even when he says the same things they did in the past (i.e. calling the border situation in the U.S. a humanitarian crisis. Democrats and the media called the border situation a humanitarian crisis in 2014, but now they deny that there’s a crisis because Trump says there’s one). I don’t see Trump ever winning his critics over.

          3. It is true there are still a great many Christians within this current age, at least in name. The numbers are far lass when one considers that many Christians are so in name alone.

            There is also the issue of Trump signing the face of bibles and the Trump/Cyrus Temple Coin (which is highly disturbing on both accounts). I think this is sufficient for some considering him a messianic figure.

            The issue of the border, Trump claims the crisis is an invasion. His opponents have continued saying it is a humanitarian crisis (not an invasion). The wall is not meant to help a humanitarian crisis. It is to prevent those attempting to escape horrible conditions from entering the US.

            Matthew 25 31-46 seems applicable….

            41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

          4. Matthew 25:31-46 concerns a judgment known as the Sheep and Goat judgment. This judgment has nothing to do with the current situation. The judgment concerns how the survivors of the tribulation will treat the Lord’s people during the tribulation. It’s a judgment that will determine who among the survivors will enter the Millennium kingdom.

          5. Indeed, the passage does not speak directly of current events. Though the substance remains even still. Should all passages within the Bible be attributed only towards the exact situations in which they speak there would be very little to apply today in this moment.

            A tribulation being defined as “a cause of great trouble or suffering”, are those who seek asylum not enduring great trouble and/or suffering? Are we who are fortunate enough to live in a land that could provide them with safety and comfort not surviving against the injustice occurring in those people’s homelands? Are we to be as those in Bethlehem who told Mary there was no room? Are we to cast them away simply because we cannot recognize a tribulation could very well be occurring? Are we to judge these people or events to determine them unworthy of applying compassion, build a wall so that we may keep our materialistic toys and feed our love of money.

            To do a kindness simply because you know you are being tested takes away the virtue of the kindness, for you only committed the kindness for the promise of reward. The kindness should be it’s own reward. This is why I say so many are only Christian in name. They who do acts only to buy a ticket to Heaven, they who go to church once or twice a week but do not apply the lessons everyday in every way they can. To many go to church on Sunday and the stripclub on Friday. To many practice hate and bigotry throughout the week only to find themselves in Church on Sunday, shaking hands and smiling a righteous smile. To many remain silent and complicit when they witness injustice.

            Now, I am far from perfect. I do not even consider myself a Christian. Even still, I do what I can to apply biblical teachings. Not so I can get admission to Heaven (I don’t believe I would qualify for entry). Not because I fear Hell (If this is where my deeds take me then so be it). I will continue to do what I can for those I encounter in my life. I will continue to speak against injustice when I see it. I will do this because I believe in kindness and compassion. Because I believe my motives be based in love for ALL, regardless of where they come from or what they believe. Reguardless for what it may cost me.

            So yes, the scripture I mentioned may be speaking of another situation, I could very well be wrong to draw the comparison. But I will not close my country against those who seek a better life, even when there is risk to myself. I will not hold my compassion until I am being tested. Perhaps I have been tested my entire life.

          6. There are significant portions of the Bible which have application to today. The Book of Proverbs is an example. It’s a book that contains so much wisdom for daily life.

            I’m not here to argue for or against the border wall nor the motives behind it. I was trying to bring up the point that Trump faces opposition that despises him so much that he is likely to never win them over. The Antichrist is a person who will win many critics over if he faces opposition early in his career.

            I applaud your compassion. The world would be a much better place if people were more compassionate.

            I know you don’t consider yourself a Christian, but I feel compelled to post the following link for anyone who might read this who is unsure about whether they will go to Heaven when they die:

            https://www.prophecyproof.org/are-you-going-to-heaven/

          7. Agreed, proverbs does have much wisdom. My only intent here is to clarify that although there are many who claim to be Christian, there are fewer and fewer who actually TRY to be Christians. The falling away which you spoke of before may not be in name but in deed.

            The rise of white supremacy, bigoted nationalism, islamophobia, xenophobia, homophobia and fear of all kinds suggests people are quick to pass judgment on those unlike themselves. Hate has a strong standing in today’s society and is bolstered by the current administration directly as well as indirectly by refusing to speak against it in any terms until practically forced to do so.

            The antichrist is said to be very successful in defeating his opponents. Not necessarily winning them over entirely. When those who oppose him lose their platform it just clears his path. This process is slow and steady and could very well be occurring at this very moment. Reguardless if Trump is intentionally allowing the forces of hate to act through him or if he is unwittingly acting as a pawn. Casting doubt against the judicial processes, his language against new agencies who oppose him as “Fake News”. His statements suggesting only he can save us from this or that. His love of mammon and his embrace of tyrants, dictators and autocrats. There is much to suggest he is AN antichrist if not THE antichrist. A Trumpet is a “little horn” after all. His name Donald translates as “World Ruler”. There is much to consider. I only hope those who oppose him retain the resolve to resist, keeping truth to your words on him never winning them over. I pray his time at the head of this nation be limited, I pray that a good man or woman replaces him in the next election. I pray that we can heal the division within our country and once again be the great nation who held true to the inscriptions on the Statue of Liberty which read:

            “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.“

            Brightest Blessings

          8. It seems that people do not understand that there is a difference between personal Christian compassion, and a leader upholding the laws of the country he has sworn to protect. Israel had laws as well. God expects the leaders to lead in the best interest of the people they protect by upholding the laws, and to offer compassion in a way that does not hurt its own people in the process. Trump is only trying to uphold the laws that exist by not allowing illegal, and I like so many others want to reiterate that it is illegal immigrants, to enter our country. He has no problem with those who go through the legal process. He told the ones entering illegally to go to the border crossings and go through the process, but they have refused. Why should we offer asylum to people who so obviously do not respect or will live by the laws of our land.

            His goal is to help our country get back to the prosperous land that it was and he is doing that. It won’t last of course, because in the end, the enemy will destroy us, but meanwhile in doing that, it allows us to take in that many more immigrants, for then we can support them, or is that too hard for people to understand. If we have a socialist country, we will have Venezuela all over again. Everyone will be starving. He is trying to prevent that, but everyone is against him. Do not judge him by the standards of what a good Christian is. Judge him by the standards of what a good leader does to protect the people he has sworn to serve. He has done more good for this country in two years than the past few presidents have done put together. Very low unemployment for all races. Prosperity for everyone, lower taxes, people brought back from being captives in other countries. The list goes on and on. And now he has been completely exonerated from this ridiculous claim that it was Russian collusion that put him in office. No it wasn’t. It was those of us who were tired of the political rhetoric that meant nothing but to bring us into the NWO. Trump is anti the NWO and pro nationalism which is what every Christian should want. The NWO is the antichrist’s political platform.

          9. The summary of a man placed in a position to receive a report about the person who placed him in that position is hardly “complete exoneration”. Especially considering the quote which specifically stated it did not exonerate. I remain unconvinced and will until I have the ability to read the report with my own eyes, even if that means waiting until freedom of information requests and/or declassification occurs. It could be weeks, months or years before I am able to form an opinion on his involvement.

            I cannot believe a human to be illegal simply by walking across an imaginary line, especially considering most of our ancestors crossed an ocean and killed the rightful inhabitants of this land… forcing many of them to flee south. Many of the people coming across this imaginary line are descendants of the natives who walked this land before we arrived.

            I do not advocate for socialism, I would rather advocate for a balance between capitalism and socialism. When the balance tilts to far in either direction neither has a good outcome, one would provide communism, the other provides fascism. Balance is the model we have used for our prosperity. It is what has allowed us to build a great nation and lead by example for so long.

            It’s common for presidents to serve half the country, while ignoring the other half. It’s common for them to appease their base without ever actually trying to bridge the gap. Shameful, but common and not unique to this president. A good leader shows a willingness to hear the voices of all of his people. A good leader does not demonize those who disagree with him. A good leader will try to see things from the perspective of those he does not understand. A innocent man would welcome an investigation rather than attempt to prevent it. After all, if innocent then why fear?

            I do not judge him, nor do I judge those who follow him. But I do see a platform based on hate and fear, I do see a great division being cast from all sides. I however can not accept Trump as my savior. I do not fear immigrants, I’m willing to pay my share to provide healthcare and education to as many as I can and fight for fair living wage. I would prefer a plan to work with Mexico to prevent the need for people to immigrate in the first place, it can be done. All of it can be done if only we have the courage and conviction to try.

            Brightest Blessings

      2. Wayne, I showed you before your comment above was posted that this “beloved theory” is not supported in the Bible. Why do you continue to circulate it? What was that chapter and verse again that says the Antichrist is “beloved?” It’s one thing to say this unknowingly, but we addressed this. What am I to make of that? I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here.

        1. Revelation 6:1-2 indicates that the rider of the white horse, Antichrist, is viewed as a messianic type of figure, a counterfeit Christ. I believe that Revelation 6:1-2 coincides with the brokering of Daniel 9:27’s covenant with many, which is likely to be a Mideast peace deal that protects Israel and permits the reinstitution of temple sacrifice in the future Third Temple. If a man today brought peace to the Mideast and to Israel he would win a Noble Peace Prize and more. He would be extremely popular in Israel and elsewhere as he would solve a problem that has vexed world leaders and activists for many decades.

          Some of my view of Antichrist is shaped by what happened with Hitler, who I believe the book of Revelation prophesied in verse 17:10 (the other that has not yet come, but will for a short time) and who I believe gives us insight into what Antichrist will be like as Antiochus Epiphanes IV gives us insight into the Antichrist.

          Hitler was viewed as a Messianic figure and had extremely high popularity within Germany before World War 2. Women went crazy for him. Children sang songs that deified him.

          I have articulated my beliefs on the topic regarding Trump and you have articulated yours. Let the people decide and let time show who is right and who is wrong.

          1. For old time’s sake:

            Regarding your first paragraph: That could just as easily be Trump as anyone else. In fact presently, it’s more likely Trump than anyone else.

            Regarding your second paragraph: 1.) Your logic is based on 20th century history, not Scripture. 2.) Even if we accept your theory that Hitler was prophesied in Scripture as a type of the Antichrist, that still does not prove your point, namely – “Trump can’t be the Antichrist because he will be beloved by everyone.” In point of fact, Hitler was never loved by everyone. If you want to say he was loved by a segment of the world, I would say the same about Trump. In terms of numbers, Trump is loved by more people than Hitler was. Germany’s total population was 69 million before WW2. 30% of America’s population is nearly 100 million.

            Regarding your third paragraph: Its amazing to hear you talk of Hitler being a Messianic figure and yet are seemingly unaware that Trump is also a messianic figure. Pat Robertson said he had a vision of Trump standing at the right hand of the Father. And don’t get me started on Israel.

            Please check out my Facebook page. I have TONS of evidence supporting that what I am saying is factual. You are welcome to voice any and all objections. Anyone can comment — no restrictions.
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    2. David committed adultry with Bathsheba and had her husband killed. David was loved and used by the MOST HIGH. The whore of Babylon is the Vatican, if you knew the scriptures coupled with history you would know these things.

  13. Where in Revelation 6 does the Bible elude to anything about the rider on the white horse being the antichrist or that he is a negative figure. White has never represented bad in the Bible. It’s doesn’t say he had two horns like a lamb but speaks as a dragon as it does when describing the Anti-Christ in latter chapters. It’s is simply a white horse with a rider whom is actually released by Christ. In latter chapters that anti-christ is empowered by the dragon or Satan. It doesn’t give any such description in this chapter.

    Some believe it to be Elijah. He does come first right?

    1. Many believe the white horse is a false messiah figure because it is white, yet it’s not Christ. The intent of the white horse is conquest after obtaining power (it’s crown).

    1. That is unscriptural. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 says that Jesus will not return until the Anti-Christ (lawless one) is revealed.

  14. Perhaps calling The Donald the antichrist is going a step too far, or maybe just half a step. I don’t believe that the antichrist would show himself all at once as Revelation suggests, but rather a step by step program that seduces the weak minded and easily lead first, as Trump has done, while courting the conspiracy theorists and the educated fundamental Christians who teeter on the brink of the presidential abyss. But if not the antichrist then certainly a precursor. The antichrist would need to blend in a bit while making his presence known by his charisma, charm and “miracles.”
    Trump may not fit the profile exactly as laid down by John or Daniel, but he comes uncomfortably close by those of us whose eyes are wide open and have grown wider still since the inauguration.

  15. So… Where to begin? Ok, first don’t take anything I say in this post at face value. Please take some time and research for yourselves. Pray on it if you’re inclined to do so. Recent prophecies come to fruition: the red heifer was born. The snake came out of the Western wall. Jerusalem was named Israel’s capitol. 70th anniversary of the Jews going home. The Euphrates river dried up. The sacrifices on the alter of the 3rd Temple. All verifiable facts and all biblical prophecy.. Commonalities between pres. Trump and the Antichrist. Lineage: scripture says the Antichrist is Assyrian, but it also says he’s Roman. Not the contadiction it first appears to be. Trump’s ancestor came from a area of Germany that history records as having both Assyrians and Romans living in it at the same time. He does and says whatever he please with no actual consequences. He does things his predecessors only hoped they could accomplish (North Korea anybody?) Look at what he’s doing with our military. (Who can make war with the beast?) Before people go asking about the more would… Scripture says he APPEARED to have a moral would to the Head. Trump had a slightly botched plastic surgery on his scalp to correct a bald spot. He was none to pleased with the result according to his ex wife, so I read in a few articles. Heck, just the other day he had protested attacking his motorcade, and did the secret service rush him away? Nope, he rolled down his window, spoke to them for a moment, AND THEN THEY JUST LEFT HIM ALONE. He brings Bible study into the White House, reads from the Bible on the White House front lawn, and yet he basically promotes transgenderism (no offense intended to anyone. I only bring it up in context of correlation in the Bible) belittles people publicly, takes credit for basically everything. He relishes in only the finest of things, he every won the presidency against nigh impossible odds. He wins with flatteries and crushes basically anyone who opposes him. I will not say he is the beast, but there are many similarities that are little known but also hard to dismiss. The sad thing for me is, before I learned of these things and did my own research and confirmations of them, I was 100% on the trump bandwagon like many. Unfortunately, the things I’ve come to learn of him combined with the things I see occurring in the world make a pretty strong case that he may indeed be…. Well, do your own truth searching folks. God bless.

    1. A small grammatical correction. my phone auto corrected on me. Mortal wound, not more would, lol. As for the transfer bet thing, I only used it as an example of what might be considered a “biblical blasphemy”. Also, he once publicly stated that he doesn’t see repentance as “necessary”…. Just more food for thought

  16. Hello Wayne, my name is John Dixon, I live north of Indy. This position you’ve taken, and demonstrated is so very true, well explained and in my perspective removes him from all the criteria to be an antichrist. He loves American, and has seen the world over, was a Playboy like I was before salvation, and merely wants to pour his time into restoring this nation. Is he rough around the edges, yes, but so are most, they just hide it well. He is gracious, caring, yet will pull out the baseball bat on anybody who’s abusive where ever. Thank you.

  17. Trump at the very least is the little horn and I can all but prove it. He is also the King of Babylon, which New York. New York use to be our capital. I have also made a ridiculous amount of connections to Egypt with him being some kind of Osiris/Horus/Set character in the vein of Ramses II. Things that when looked at together, are beyond explanation. He is either the direct precursor to the Antichrist, here to create chaos so the real Antichrist can create order, or he is THE guy His mother’s name was Mary, his father’s middle name was Christ and Donald John means “Ruler of the world blessed by Yah”. Yah (or Jah, Iah) was the name of an Egyptian moon god associated with Osiris. I have mounds of data on all of this. Just check out this TV show called Trackdown episode name, End of the World from 1958. Its about a conman beating a drum (Trumps last name was originally Drumpf, which means drum or drummer) telling everyone that the end of the world is coming and only he can save them by building them a wall. This “wall” turns out to be nothing but a parasol which is suppose to deflect meteorites that are going to hit the earth. So he has technology to protect people from outerspace. Kind of like what the Space Force has been talking about doing with asteroids. He also threatens to sue someone, he’s literally called “The High Priest of Fraud” and makes fire come down from the sky to fool people. Makes them all panic and delusionally believe whatever he says while one guy in the town tried to talk sense into people but they won’t listen. It’s so spot on its bizarre and its only ONE of MANY of these that are like. President Business from the Lego movie? That’s so obviously Trump and its from 2014.

  18. Asked myself with his egoin his early 30s he was a multi millionaire why wouldnt he get hair inplants anyone that age with that money and ego buy hair plugs / hair transplant very fishy so i Google imaged trumps hair bliwing in the wind so i blew up wvery picture oh his hair blowimg and i was blown away look close uou can see his horns i thought ok yourvsing things but then i noticed not only the horns but the shadows they cast that goof hairs just camouflage

  19. “He will make war with the saints”… the Spirit of the AntiChrist is rising (today ppl were killed at a synagogue in Pitt. and few days ppl where killed after shooter couldn’t get in a church in KY at a Kroger…. The Antichrist spirit is in Donald Trump – Trump doesn’t have the spirit of Christ. You will know those who are of Christ by the fruit that they bear..Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Trump is a liar, He is the opposite of the Fruit of the Spirit. He is a fear monger, hater, has no patience, unfaithful and no self control. OPEN YOUR EYES. MAGA – your faith should never be with a man, but in Christ but Trump state to his followers (he alone can fix it stated during the Republican convention)…. ARE YOU BLIND? he plays Sympathy for Devil at this rallies. REALLY?

    He has brain washed many…. you should always question this world! yet, Trump condemns those who challenge him.

  20. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” (Dan 11:37) I think you are misinterpreting this wrong. I have swyers syndrome and as such i have a unique outlook on things. The desire of women does not have to mean sex in fact the desire of most women is not sex but respect and equality. The ability to not have to be forced into doing things. Trump does not regard God in fact he uses Christians and has said so on a couple of occasions. Also He has a different kind of influence and the right is rising in the world. Now one might think that was a good thing but it is not a wholesome right wing but a perverted hateful nazi right wing. The leopard reborn spawned from nazi germany but no longer a part of her. So we come to all four parts of the beast from the sea the lion, the uk, the leopard (the right wing), the bear
    ( russia) the dragon ( china). They are gaining power without the use of force. So he is at least a type of antichrist. Global warming also was predicted in the bible and global warming is what is fueling all the global disasters in the world. We were set as stewards of the earth and we are killing it. Trump is hurrying up the process by dismantling the EPA and FDA. Towards the last part of revelations it states that Christ returns to judge the earth and to destroy those that destroy the earth Revelation 11:18 So the thing that the world keeps refusing to repent of is saving the earth which in itself represents all kinds of greed and sins. I am the least of Gods Children and I am here to warn you that if this is not the time it is one of the times and you may still have a chance to stop it. But that means getting together and voting trump out and realigning against the other members of the beast. If trump should truly repent and change his ways great but i doubt it because I have already attempted to witness to him and the reaction was to punish the vulnerable. I hope you all heed my warning because The Lord puts those things in the bible not to scare us but to warn us in the hopes that we heed it. But The Lord also knows that eventually it will come about anyway but it doesn’t have to be today.

    1. Join the discussion…Daniel 11:37 isn’t about the sexual desires of the antichrist it’s about all the different gods the antichrist doesn’t regard. If you read Daniel 11:36 through Daniel 11:38 it helps you understand. The god desired by women of iniquity in the time era Daniel was writing about is Tammuz (Ezekiel 8:14). In all actuality, Daniel 11 describes Donald Trump to a “T”,(pun intended). Trump is the antichrist without any doubt. The first seal is already opened and the second seal will be opened soon. Once a quick WWIII is over, Trump will confirm the covenant with many which will start the 70th week.

  21. As much as I support Trump in being the president I will never bow and worship him. IMHO Hussain Obama fit the picture of the antichrist better than what Trump does. Arrogant, charismatic and globalist and will do everything (and still do) to shove his agenda down people’s throats.

    1. Arrogant and Charismatic is not the only markers of the antichrist spirit. the antichrist spirit is the opposite of the fruit of Spirit of God.

      Also, you don’t bow down…no. but you follow – and support him,,,, isn’t this the same. many who attend the rallies worship him by following him blindly and defending him and excusing him. yet he has never ask God for forgiveness. This is a core principle of faith when following Christ.

      Open you eyes and look for the fruit of the spirit! Trump bears no good fruit or perhaps you should ask yourself Does Trump display the fruit. Galatians 5:22-23 (NIV) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

    2. Really? Come on man! Far too many in the faith community have disrespected President Obama because he had a liberal perspective. So did Christ! President Obama was a great President, good wholesome family man and tried to bring the nation together. I do not see that with this curent, wicked clown occupying the WH. Take your white evangelical blinders off and recognize our President is filled with unrighteousness and pure evil. I see no compassion, love, or kindness associated with Christianity or even Islam for that matter. Do not think he is the anti-Christ but he certainly not someone I want my family to emulate or look up to. Hatred, bigotry, divisiveness, wickedness, adultery, money laundering, fraud, tax evasion, these are not of Christ…

  22. Hi. Trump cannot be the antichrist. Rev 13 first talks about the first beast out of the sea as political. The second beast is religious. Trump is far from being religious. When you see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place claiming to be god. Gary

    1. I believe the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place to be a nuclear bomb built there in secret as it would be a violation to the jews,muslims and christians alike. IF you take the words apart and look them you will see that what they are describing is a nuclear bomb. The directions given to the people to flee and where to flee also implies that it is a bomb. A person would not instill that kind of terror.

  23. Satan will have a two tiered approach in this age. First he will attempt to deceive through flattery and obtain compromises from God’s people. If that does not work, we will execute on violence. Violence will come from Satan against Christians that actually effect biblical change. If the Christian is ineffective and a compromiser they will not see any hostility, only attempts to manipulate. President Trump is stirring up strife and violence because he is being effective in advancing a Christian agenda. That is the way it happens.

    1. If smashing the hopes of the vulnerable is a christian agenda then may the Lord come Quickly and I do not say that lightly as it will be a day of terror, doom and gloom before Christ returns.

  24. Gary Francis Davis

    The Anti Christ is the former president Barrack Hussein Obama. For he also didthe things that are mentioned, badly yes but that was the plan all along. He along. with his evil henchmen sought de stabilization of all kinds. If you look back on his administrations actions objectively, u will see just that. Trump has been anointed to tear down and expose this horrible corruption of the earth and the siphoning of money an resources of Gods land. The devil knows nd will not go quietly. This is where the tribulation comes to play.. check out Q anon on utube. Awaken…for the realization of what has enslaved the population of Earth is at hand.

    1. Gary, there is no bible verse stating that any man on earth will tear down and expose the antichrist. As for Qanon, they sound like another trick from Satan.

  25. I have a question for anyone on this thread who believes Trump is the AC (or at least the one who will make the 7-year covenant with many). Assuming that is true for the moment, that would imply that the U.S. is the little horn of Daniel 7. I have one question, which I don’t yet have a satisfactory answer: Who is mystery Babylon? My apologies if I have missed this being answered elsewhere (I’d appreciate if you could reply with a link).

    A brief background on the motivation for the question: Assuming that Trump is AC, then he most likely will sign the treaty before completing 8 years in office, and relinquishing power. Within this time span, I find it difficult to see any great city/nation that well fits the description of Babylon in Rev 17 &18. I’ve read several opinions on this (e.g. Mecca, Baghdad, N.Y., Rome, etc…). However, they all seem to fall short in one way or another IMHO, unless of course the end will not be for several years, which will give enough time for a Babylon-type city to arise and gain more power and economic/political influence. However, if we go with the presumption that Trump is AC, we’re pretty much out of time, and we Babylon must be among the current geopolitical powers. So, my question is: who is it, and how do they satisfy Rev 17 & 18 requirements?

    Much thanks.

    1. Its jerusalem. That is why john was astonished to find out. She became a prostitute since babylon. She is no longer God’s wife. She became adulterous and idolatrous. She is likened to sodom and egypt where the prophets, the saints, and the Lord was killed.

      1. Thanks for the reply! Here are the problems I have with Jerusalem: 1) I don’t believe Jerusalem is destroyed by the AC (Dan 11:45), and yet AC will destroy Babylon (Rev 17:16); 2) Jerusalem, as central as she is to God’s prophetic plan, is not a city which I’d consider to be the center of world commerce that rules over the kings of the Earth. (see, e.g., Rev 18:3).

        [If you take the “center of commerce” angle, I’d have to go with the US (at least in the present day, with the US holding the world reserve currency, etc…). However, if we presume that Trump is AC, then the US is taken off the table (unless you were going to try to argue that Trump, as AC, arises from the US, but takes out his own city (i.e. NY) because it opposes him. With today’s political climate, that may not be impossible, but I’d say it’s only a remote possibility.]

        Back to my main line of thought RE Jerusalem, point 3) The prostitute sits on the beast – she uses the beast for her own luxuries, and he uses her for legitimacy, until he no longer needs her, and can throw her off his back. She also is responsible for the death of countless martyrs. While you could argue that Jerusalem has some political influence today through Jewish leaders around the world, working in many governments and businesses, I don’t see their collective power as being gathered into one city. Nor do I think Jerusalem is responsible for the death of myriad saints. Sure, the Jews persecuted the Christians in the early church, but I don’t think it reaches quite the scale that Revelation describes about Babylon.

        [If anything, if you take the ” religious harlot” angle, I’d think Rome would play the strongest candidate, especially if the Roman catholic church gets in bed with the AC… The problem there, however, is that Rome is not a center of world commerce.

        This brings me back to my original question: If we assume that Trump is AC, then that fixes a certain timetable that is very near. However, I still can’t identify a clear city that fits all the requirements for Babylon (as discussed above) within such a short timeframe. Can someone help me here?

        Much appreciated.

        1. I would caution against trying to interpret Bible prophecy passages based on a preconceived timeline, especially one that is so short in time. I’ve seen many people in the past make wrong predictions by doing that.

          Habakkuk 2 is a very interesting chapter. Based on its relationship to Isaiah 14, it’s an end time chapter that I believe refers to the Antichrist. Habakkuk 2:12-14 indicates that the Antichrist will build a city with blood and iniquity. I believe that city is a reference to Babylon the Great. Therefore, I believe it’s likely that Babylon the Great is likely to become the city described in Revelation 17 and Revelation 18 through the work of Antichrist.

          1. Hi Wayne,

            Thanks. Just to be clear, as I tried to indicate in my earlier message, I’m not trying to predict who is Babylon the great, per se. I’m just entertaining the hypothetical that, IF Trump were in fact the AC, and we fix that variable in place (including the timeline that would go along with that), what other variables would be determined (e.g., US would be the little horn, and not Babylon)? If those variables are unlikely to be possible in the near future, then, working backwards, it reduces the probability that Trump is AC. Hope that makes sense.

            As for the verses you cited, are you trying to argue that AC will be the King of Babylon (i.e., build it up, make it rich and powerful), and then will destroy his own city at the end? I’ve always seen Babylon the Great (as described in Rev 17 and 18) as a separate entity from the Beast/little horn (although deeply intertwined) . In other words, AC will rise up through the little horn (which is a kingdom that started out as a “little horn” that grew up among the 10 horns, but has grown “larger than its associates”; c.f. Dan. 7:8, 20).

            [In this sense, under current geopolitical circumstances, I can see the US as conceivably being the little horn (having started as a small horn (colony) among the larger European powers), but having grown in might to become larger than its associates. Arguably, the US is still within the same progeny as Daniel’s 4th beast (assuming that beast was the Roman Empire).]

            The little horn (whoever it is) will eventually be the leader of the union of the 10 horns. However, I see this union as being distinct from the kingdom of Babylon itself, and will eventually destroy Babylon. (cf. Rev. 17: 12-18). In my view, the beast gets his religious legitimacy, in part, from the harlot, and in turn makes the harlot rich. Do you see it differently? How would you characterize the exact relationship of the harlot and the beast?

          2. Antichrist is represented in Bible prophecy as the end time king of Babylon. In other words, it’s like a nickname for him. Antichrist will NOT destroy Babylon the Great. Revelation 17:16 indicates that only the ten kings will destroy the city.

            “And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.”

            Revelation 17:17 indicates that the ten kings will provide their power to the Antichrist UNTIL they destroy Babylon the Great. The destruction of Babylon the Great implies that the Antichrist’s kingdom is at an end.

            Antichrist and Babylon the Great are likely to cooperate with each other (depicted by the harlot riding the beast). Antichrist provides Babylon the Great her influential position while Babylon the Great works on behalf of the Antichrist to advance his agenda.

          3. Thanks for clarifying. I think we have an honest difference of interpretation of Rev. 17:16-17. I view the ten horns as giving their authority to the AC, and AC (as the leader of the 10 horns) will destroy Babylon at some point between the middle and end of the 7 years, and demand worship of the whole world. The AC will only later be destroyed by Jesus Himself at the battle of Armageddon, when Jesus returns in the clouds, and he will be thrown alive into hell. AC will not be destroyed by the ten horns. Indeed, AC himself will destroy 3 out of the 10 horns. However, I appreciate your thoughts.

            On the original question, it appears that neither of us has a good idea of who Babylon is at this time. That’s fine. I just wanted to know if anyone on this thread who claims to believe Trump is AC has a good answer to that question.

            Thanks.

          4. G.F.
            Brief reply to GB’s comments above. You and I seem to be on the same wave length concerning Mystery Babylon, the timing of mystery Babylon and concerning the person of the Antichrist. Revelation chapters 17 & 18 have a lot to say about Mystery Babylon. So does an O.T. prophet.
            Concerning the nationality of the “FUTURE FUEHRER”, he has to be a European from a specific nation !!!, and he will not be a Jew. Daniel has a lot to say about his character description, his “origin” etc. and the type of person he will be. John The Baptist was the “Forerunner” of Christ, so one might say that the second “Beast” (Antichrist) and the third “Beast” the “False Prophet” to come also will have their “Forerunners” in order to test the waters! During the Second World war there were two famous individuals who did fit that bill, who had an astounding way of rallying the troops sort of to speak and knew how to mesmerize millions of people by way of speeches and by using the then available mass media, and one of them was a real propaganda machine and “mouthpiece” to boot. So Brother, put on your thinking cap and try to figure out the nationality of the AC and zero in on Mystery Babylon!
            Both are not easy tasks and it will take time and effort. Even if you should “decode” these challenges, you can not go public with it, however it will give you great satisfaction. Please remember that the “official identity” of the AC will not be made known by God until the specific event the Apostle Paul has spoken about has taken place!

            Bless you in the name of our Lord Jesus.

          5. I’m not the fastest reader, Wayne, but I’ve been slowly reading your book. I’m enjoying it; it’s very helpful and insightful.

          6. Look up Illuminati, Club of rome, Jesuits. Pope and a leading Imam signed a treaty of human rights type thing saying the Christian God Jesus and Allah are the same whuch they are NOT. This was done Feb. 2019

          7. Interesting thoughts.

            I tend to have the same style of thinking that you described of yourself w/ regard to fixing certain variables in order to get an idea of how that would affect everything upstream/downstream. I like to think it’s a safeguard against getting locked into a single set of ideas, which is something I’ve personally had happen and feel I’ve seen in others when discussing these things in the past.

            Having said that, I’ve always considered AC and the little horn as being the same person. I’ll have to give what you said about the two being separate entities some thought. I don’t think Trump is AC, but I don’t think he isn’t AC either. I just consider in my mind that it is a possibility at the moment. Habakkuk 2 notwithstanding, is there some reason why Trump couldn’t be AC and NYC be Babylon the city?

            Just curious.

          8. RE Trump being the AC: I’m reserving my thoughts about that. I could say much more about it, but it would distract from my current question on this thread. For now, I’ll just say that he is a unique figure that doesn’t come around very often.

            I’ll try to clarify my thoughts on AC, little horn, and Babylon, and how I think they may differ from Wayne (although not sure):

            I think Daniel 7 teaches that there will be 10 horns, which represent 10 kingdoms. I also think that Revelation 17 teaches that they represent 10 kings, but these kings will only arise from their respective kingdoms at the end time. When exactly the 10 horns themselves arise I think is up for debate. I believe they arise from the remnants of the Roman Empire, although I acknowledge that there is debate even over that point (cf. Joel Richardson). Assuming that they arise from the remnants of the Roman Empire (4th beast), I think those kingdoms likely are in existence today, have have been in existence for some time. What’s missing is the exact confederation of 10 that will exist at the end time (e.g. some subset of the EU or NATO, etc.)

            From among the 10 horns, a little horn will arise. I believe the little horn also represents a kingdom. However, it also represents a king, and a unique king different from the others. Daniel say that a man’s eyes and mouth were in the little horn, who spoke boastfully. I believe this king is the AC. What is interesting to me is that the little horn starts out as little, but then grows to become “bigger than its associates.” To me, this suggests that the US could be in view here. The US grows as a small and young new nation from among the older European powers at the time, until, over 200 years, it becomes a superpower. I’m still not sure, but let’s assume for the moment that the US is the little horn (incidentally, I think Dan. 2:43 well describes the US today).

            All that we would be waiting for then is the AC (a person) to arise and to rule over the little horn (which is now large and powerful), and for the 10 kings to be given authority for “one hour” to rule over the 10 horns, while pledging allegiance to the AC. So, to be clear, I view the AC as being a person who rules over a kingdom (i.e. the “little horn”).

            Now, let’s assume that Trump is AC (or at least, he signs the 7 year covenant – we can deal with issues with Rev 17: 9-11 later). That implies that indeed, the US is the little horn, and AC derives much of his military might from the US power (and, of course, Satan’s power). If NYC were to be Babylon, that would mean that AC would be destroying a part of his own kingdom, which seems unlikely to me. I also believe, in contrast to Wayne, that Rev. 17:16-17 teaches that the Beast, in confederacy with the other 10 horns, will destroy Babylon. I don’t see the 10 horns as ganging up on the little horn to destroy it, which Wayne apparently believes, since he views AC as being the King of Babylon, as well as the king of the little horn. Wayne, please correct me if I misunderstand.

            Furthermore, if Babylon and the little horn were one and the same thing, then it would seem to me that AC is without an army at the battle of Armageddon (since Babylon would be destroyed by then), which goes against my understanding of Scripture.

            Instead, I believe the more likely scenario is that AC rules the little horn, which dominates the other 10 (and eventually destroys 3 of them), and together, they destroy Babylon. I believe they will likely destroy Babylon on or about the same time that AC demands worship of himself, and abolishes the world ecumenical religious system in place at that time.

            Furthermore, I view AC as being present with his army at the battle of Armageddon, along with all the other armies of the Earth. Then Jesus returns in the clouds, and wipes them all out.

            Hope that helps clarify things. Let me know where you might agree or disagree. Thanks!

          9. To clarify, I view the little horn mainly as the Antichrist the person. I don’t view the destruction of Babylon the Great as the destruction of the little horn. I view the destruction of the little horn as the destruction of the Antichrist.

          10. It seems to me that Babylon is a very complicated topic in scripture. My understanding is that there is, at minimum, a female spiritual entity, a city, and possibly a nation – all referred to as ‘Babylon’ in the Bible?

            Additionally, I believe I read somewhere along the way that in the last days Babylon would consist of two groups: political and ecclesiastical. In this scenario, assuming I recall correctly, political Babylon equated to AC’s group and ecclesiastical Babylon equated to the False Prophet’s group. According to what I read, eventually – perhaps at the midpoint of the tribulation – political Babylon would turn on ecclesiastical Babylon and destroy her/it.

            I have no clue if there’s any validity to this idea, but some of the things you said in your message sounded reminiscent of that to me. I personally feel (just from reading scripture in general) that the US is Babylon, but being that I have a very long way to go with eschatology, I recognize that that doesn’t actually mean anything.

          11. Hi Watchman,

            I agree with you that it’s a complicated topic! I tend to agree that Babylon is an ecclesiastical entity (cf. Rev. 17:1-6), and also an economic entity and a real city and/or nation (cf. Rev. 18).

            However, I don’t subscribe to the idea that AC’s group will control political Babylon, while the FP group would control economic Babylon. In my view, FP will tell the world to worship AC (who is primarily a political figure), and probably together will be involved in destroying Babylon. As I mentioned above, the harlot will ride on the beast’s power for a time, but when the beast no longer needs the harlot for her ecclesiastical influence, it will destroy her. In my view, that will be around the time AC demands worship of himself from everyone. The FP will be aligned with AC until the very end, when Jesus destroys them both. (cf. Rev. 19:20).

            As for the US, among other reasons, I don’t believe the US quite fits the requirement to be drunk with the blood of God’s holy people. (cf. Rev 17). Explanations I have heard are a stretch, IMHO. It does, however, for the economic requirements. I’m still looking for a city that fulfills all the requirements. Thanks!

          12. Give it some time for the U.S. to fit the bill of drunk with the blood of the saints. First of all look at all the abortions. Those millions of children are in heaven. Then I personally am of the opinion that the American Christians are the Laodiceans, and that they have something “special,” as it were, planned for them to relieve them of their apostasy before they meet the Lord. We are already beginning to go down that road. Look at how Christians are starting to be treated, and with the liberal mindset becoming more and more violent in their actions, it won’t take much to start rounding Christians up and killing them saying that they are doing God a favor.

          13. Connie,

            You may be right. I do indeed expect persecution to continue to rapidly increase in the U.S.. However, it is difficult for me to see these things happening within the next few years to the extent that the U.S. is drunk with the blood of the saints (i.e. wholesale abandonment of the Constitution), which it would have to be, if we assumed that Trump were the AC.

            Also, if Babylon were the US, it is not clear to me if only a city (e.g. NYC) is in view, or the entire nation. It is difficult for me to imagine a confederation of 10 nations destroying the entire U.S. in one hour, without the U.S. also retaliating and destroying the 10 nations in the process…(at least with current U.S. military capabilities). Granted, once you bring Satan’s power and authority into the picture, all bets are off.

            There are many variables in play here, and I frankly don’t feel solid enough to come down dogmatically on them yet. This thread is a mental exercise for me to explore the “what ifs” if Trump were AC, and the identity of Babylon is the most vexing issue for me currently.

          14. Agreed that you can’t be dogmatic, but have to keep things open while still possibly leaning heavily in one direction based on the info presently available. One thing that you may not have considered is that you are assuming that Babylon’s present location is the only place for which she is drunk on the blood of the saints. She is guilty of the blood of the saints down through history. It’s accumulative. She merely moves her headquarters around, and at this time, I personally feel that the U.S. fits her description the best, for who else says that they sit like a queen untouched by the rest of the world? Who else has her wealth and luxuries (aside from Dubai, whom I don’t see as leading the world). The people of this nation live as the wealthiest in the world as a whole. The rest of the description fits her as well.

            I think maybe we need to think of the land of Babylon as a city/state. There is the state or nation or kingdom as it were, and then there is the headquarters or capital city from which the nation is run and her seat resides. I believe the ancient kingdoms were thought of in this way.

            As for the U.S. being destroyed and not retaliating, it would all depend on how it is done. They could blow up our own nukes on us, rather than sending some over. That would eliminate our ability to retaliate. Or maybe an EMP pulse attack would render us incapable of doing anything, because everything is done by computers these days. We have multitudes of enemies on our land already infiltrating these crucial places of military control.

            As for Trump being the AC, I know there are some people with TDS here that are certain he must be, but I don’t think he fits the bill in many ways.

            I have a whole different take on Babylon and the beast than most. Having studied the history of the two of them, and understanding that their relationship has been found in the stories of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz (who were the originals of this duo) down through Osiris, Isis, and Horus, and other “gods” who were more fact than myth, and other historical kings, etc., the history shows that she always ran the religion and he ran the politics in the ancient kingdoms, but after Christ that seemed to change. The beast seems to have disappeared until he possessed Hitler, and we know he is currently in the abyss as well, so something bound him except for when he was or will be let out. That left her without a world kingdom to control (as their kingdoms were always the world power of the day). While she infiltrated the church in the persona of Mary after Christ, as that was a good source to control the world, and she still has a lot of influence there, I don’t believe that is her religion of control anymore. And it didn’t give her the political empire she wanted. I believe Freemasonry is her religion. The Catholic church is against Freemasonry which I don’t think that would be so, if she still had her headquarters there. Plus, I believe the false prophet will be the pope that sits at that time, which makes the Catholic church under the beast’s control as he is the beast’s man. I also think Islam is his religious military arm.

            The Templars found and brought her religion back during the crusades and Freemasonry was the end result of that. Freemasonry controls many of the world leaders. It is found in every country. I believe the world headquarters for Freemasonry is located in D.C. The name of that temple is long, but it is called the Supreme Council or Mother Council of the World. Babylon’s statue sits in NYC harbor, (sculpted by a Freemason) and her statue sits on top of the Capitol in D.C. The Capitol is actually a temple to her. There is a 32 foot statue of an owl at the Bohemian Grove in CA that the top politicians, arts people, sports people, media people go worship every year, and I’m betting that that so-called dummy sacrifice is not a dummy but real child. Most people think it is Molech, because of the child sacrifice, but Molech is not an owl. The owl was the representation of Athena, just another name for Babylon.

            With the beast presently in the abyss, as Revelation tells us he is, she had to get her own political empire and America provided that for her, as it was founded by a whole lot of Freemasons. That Hitler was possessed by the beast, yet he went after Freemasons to kill them when he was in power sort of says that they are not getting along, or why would he kill her followers? Wouldn’t they be his as well if they are still a team? She has ridden him all these millennia, yet now they are at odds? And America, if Babylon, was against Hitler. This would also indicate a schism. The fact that his cronies destroy her on his behalf would seem to indicate that it is his wish, even if he doesn’t push the button himself. That seems to verify that they are not getting along and that my hypothesis may be correct. I can’t be dogmatic, but it sure fits the picture I’m seeing around me.

          15. Many of the points you bring up about the historical roots of Babylon may in fact be valid ones. I haven’t researched the history well enough, but appreciate your ideas.

            Regarding the US and its role, for now, I think I’m just in a wait-and-see mode. I think it will become clearer as the identity of the AC becomes clearer. And I think the identity of the AC will be clearer when a 7 year peace covenant is made (and the construction of the 3rd temple may very well be a party of that covenant). Also, unlike many of my fellow evangelical bros and sisters, I don’t believe in a pre-trib rapture. So I believe it is quite possible that I may live to see these events unfold, and I want to be prepared.

          16. Agree that an absolute positivity requires a wait and see attitude, even if things look like they lean in a particular direction. Also agreed that we will be here to see it happen. No pre-trib rapture.

          17. I’ve only partially investigated this, but another person on this thread said something at one point that caused me to consider that perhaps – from a Constitution abandonment perspective – we are already further down the path than most realize.

            It appears, for example, that the NDAA, having flowed out of 9/11, gives the government the power to secretly round up and indefinitely detain even US citizens suspected of terrorism. Unless something has changed, the NDAA is still in the books.

            The Patriot Act, being another example, gives the government all kinds of intrusive powers.

            I do agree that from an anti-fundamentalist sentiment standpoint, the US is not there yet. However, in the wake of one or more of the right catalyzing events, it isn’t much of a stretch in my mind personally to think that it wouldn’t take that long to get there from where we are right now.

            Again, I’ve only partially looked into the NDAA, Patriot Act, etc., but my impression from what I have seen so far is that all of this legislation is still valid and active. I am increasingly wondering whether the skirting(s) of the Constitution necessary to enable the US to be Babylon could to at least some degree already be in place?

            In other words, maybe the Constitution doesn’t have to be abandoned to the extent that we think. And this isn’t meant to sound alarmist; it’s just an honest question I have been asking myself.

          18. No doubt, I agree that the recent laws have made gov’t intrusion much more severe. I also believe that, just as 9/11 spurred on the adoption of the Patriot Act, in times of distress, people are willing to give up their freedoms for the promise of more security. As times get tougher (lawlessness increases and “the love of most grows cold”), we will see more freedoms eroded. Therefore, in short, I agree with you that we are heading down a dangerous path, and it is quite possible for that erosion to accelerate quickly, given the right catalyst events.

            However, even with these facts, it is difficult for me to predict with any confidence how near we are to the end times. It could be in a few years, or not for many years. I personally believe that, looking at the signs around us, we are nearing the end. But IMHO, the clearest sign will center, not on the US, but on Israel. Once that temple starts to be rebuilt, look out! 🙂 In fact, I’d say, once even discussion of the temple being rebuilt enters the mainstream discussion of negotiation RE Mideast peace talks, look out…. I think the other pieces to the puzzle will become clearer at that point, including whether or not Trump is AC, and who is Babylon.

          19. I do agree, GB. It’s impossible to say just yet. I also agree that the temple will be a sure sign.

          20. What follows is almost entirely conjecture and conspiracy theory, but it is something that I have considered regarding general timing of Daniel’s 70th week. I do not put any real stock in it and neither should anyone else. I just think it is kind of interesting.

            I have heard several pastors, theologians, expositors assert that Jesus lived for 33.5 years. I don’t know if there is a real connection here or not, but it’s interesting to me that Freemasonry’s highest degree is the 33rd.

            Some believe Christ’s true birthday is 9/11/03 BC. There could be some merit to this idea. For example, you see “IXXI” in lots of Jesuit symbolism and artifacts. Another possible example is the 9/11 terrorist event. Some apparently see it as an inversion of 9/11/03 BC (or what they believe is Christ’s real birthday), due to the fact that 9/11/2001 = 9/11/2+0+0+1 = 9/11/03.

            If you follow the Bible’s genealogies, my understanding is that the earth is approx. 6000 yrs old right now. Generally speaking, because God does things in sevens and because scripture tells us that Christ will reign for 1000 yrs after he returns, it makes sense scripturally that we are literally on the verge of Christ’s return.

            If Christ was indeed born on 9/11/03 BC and lived for ~33 years, unless I am overlooking something, this would put his return roughly at 2030 – according to this rationale. And of course, if the tribulation period is approximately 7 years in length, I suppose this would put its beginning in September of 2023. (I don’t believe Christ returns until the end.)

          21. Watchman,

            I have no real facts to support or deny your hypothesis, but I think it is interesting. Thanks for sharing.

            As a side question related to Daniel’s 70th week, I have a couple questions for you or anyone who is an expert:

            1) is there any biblical reason that necessitates the 7 year peace treaty including building the temple? My understanding is that, theoretically, the two are separate concepts. The only requirement is that the temple has to be in place by the middle of the 7. Am I wrong? In other words, theoretically the temple could be in place a thousand years before the 7 year treaty.

            2) my understanding is that the 7 year treaty must be according to the lunar calendar (because that’s the same pattern as the other 69 7’s down to the exact day), not the current calendar system. What would make a western AC sign a 7 year deal according to the lunar calendar? My only thought is that the peace deal would include the temple somehow, and AC would honor the temple worship calendar ( at least till the middle of the 7), which is according to the lunar calendar.

          22. I believe it’s likely that the temple is a part of the treaty and that the institution of temple sacrifice will transpire in the first half of the week.

          23. Wayne and Connie both know far more than I do about end times, GB. I’m really not even qualified to answer your questions. 🙂

          24. Okay, now that I have read pages 36-37 of Wayne’s book, if there is a connection with Freemasonry’s 33rd degree, I think it would most likely be Christ’s crucifixion date – April 1, 33 AD.

          25. My son, out of nowhere one day years ago told me he had a “dream” that by 2035 there was going to be an end to the world. He was a child when he said this. I watched that movie 6th Sense and don’t want to be an unbeliever and dismiss my child. So, I remember all the experiences he has shared me… 3 to be exact, and just tell him wow, what an incredible dream. His 2 other experiences were more prophetic than that. He is a teenager now and in his own world, will wait and see what happens. Thought I would share as it goes in line somewhat with your thoughts.

          26. Drunk with the blood of the saints could mean red wine, and not literal blood… remember Jesus turned water into wine and in the last supper asked to drink, this is my blood poured out for you… Look at the increase in drunkeness and wineries’ popularity… moms now have playdate parties where they drink wine while watching thier little ones play! The level of sins that are being normalized here is astounding… we are now seen as abnormal to think that sinful ways are wrong. That is so backwards and makes living in DC very challenging for me. I cannot leave this area until my kids are grown and it tears me apart to have to raise them in this…

        2. Heavenly Jerusalem is CHRIST’s and decends from heaven NOT Carnal Jerusalem But… Mystery Babylon is actually 3 cities that sit on seven hills. ROME, JERUSALEM, MECCA. The Abrahamic Religious centers of the world. Matthew 23:37
          Verse Concepts
          “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling

          Compare-Revelation 18:24 ►
          Verse
          In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people, of all who have been slaughtered on the earth.”

          Clearly this fits all 3 to a T.

          The Image of the 1st beast is a Church State and Daniel 11:37 in context isn’t talking about sexual orientation. Hint: the Statue of Liberty is a Roman goddess. The desire of women is freedom and liberty. Note the verse about no regard for the desires of women fits between two verses about the Worship of G-D or any Gawds for that matter so it is a far stretch of biblical gymnastics to claim that the little horn doesn’t like sex with women. But the Zionist evangelicals of Trumpainity don’t really read there bibles without the Zionist Dispensationalist pope Darby Secret rapture/Raptura = Harpozo lens.

          Also the Temple of Christ IS the BODY! Not a building made of stones.

          χξϚ = Strong’s G5516 – chi-xi-stigma

          Root Etymology:
          The ἄγαμος (G22)d, ἀγαθοεργέω (G14)th and an obsolete letter (4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the ἀββα (G5)th and Ἄβελ (G6)th), used as numbers

          Strong’s Definitions:
          χξϛ chx stigma, khee xee stig’-ma; the 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral:—six hundred threescore and six

          G4742
          στίγμα stígma, stig’-mah; from a primary στίζω stízō (to “stick”, i.e. prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), i.e. (figuratively) scar of service:—mark

          Lexicon :: Strong’s G22 – agamos
          Meaning = Unmarried

          Lexicon :: Strong’s G14 – agathoergeō
          Strong’s Definitions
          ἀγαθοεργέω agathoergéō, ag-ath-er-gheh’-o; from G18 and G2041; to work good:—do good

          χξϚ=?
          Christian Xς = ancient way to say Christian.

          ξ= Xi= Samek =

          = with support from the Pole Ξ

          So χξϚ according to the Greek Lexington literally means= Christian unmarried to good works without support from the cross is Marked Pierced by the beast.

          James 2:14-26 New King James Version (NKJV)

          Faith Without Works Is Dead

    2. Some say jerusalem, others say a government in the original babylon, others say rome, but i say it is the usa because she fits the description and the christians who are consorting with the antichrist are the whores who are riding the beast. The usa is the one who says I will never be a widow, the USA is the richest nation on earth and the usa had interfered with other nations on more then one occasion and in the past killed many people including christians. But that is my opinion.

    3. I do not think trump is the AC, he’s not perfect but I believe God is using him to fulfill prophecy. Mystery Babylon is United States, the statue of liberty is actually a statue of the queen of Babylon you can read about the statue cmons.org under symbolism

    4. mystery Babylon is the catholic church..

      “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth”. (rev 17:9 kjv) Rome is called the city of 7 hills..

      And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: (rev 17:4 kjv)
      “Cardinals wear red, while non-Cardinal Bishops and Archbishops wear purple.”

      even their worship of the cracker (and thats all it is..nothing more..jesus is not in the cracker) goes all the way back to pagan babylonian sun worship..besides, doesnt the bible say we are NOT TO WORSHIP OR BOW DOWN TO ANY KIND OF IMAGES?

      “Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me”; (Exodus 20:5 kjv)

      ” Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 (KJV)
      Mary has NOTHING to do with salvation or anything else..she was the “chosen vessel” and that it is..the queen of heaven is mentioned twice in the bible..both time in reference to idol worship and the first time was to provoke the LORDS anger.

      that was just to get ya started. research this…

      pllz dont fall for one of satans biggest deceptions..”

  26. Yeah I totally agree with you that Donald Trump can’t be the Antichrist, for exact reasons you stated. Isn’t it crazy that Bush, Obama, Trump, and even losing candidates Gore, Kerry and Hillary were ALL accused of being antichrists?! I know for the fact none of them are Antichrist for the simple fact that they didn’t get 99% of the vote, like Antichrist would. Also, the fact that someone has big ego, charisma, and tries to broker middle east deal won’t make them Antichrist either: lots and lots of politicians meet that description, and only two of them would be Antichrist and false prophet. Don’t get me wrong, I do believe we live in last days and Antichrist will come. But you got to be objective and use critical thinking if you want to identify the real Antichrist.

  27. Donald as fooled a whole lot of good God fearing and business savvy folks.
    .
    Mark Twain said. “Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. ”
    I stopped a long time ago trying to convince folks that Trump as duped. Hoodwinked and bamboozled his way straight to the top spot”

  28. https://youtu.be/ZEgiTR1VC18

    Watch this clip from the left behind
    Series
    …….
    1.Trump says he could shoot someone in time square and his v
    Base would still support him

    2. Trump tells the parable of inviting a snake into your home and when he bites you..the snake simply says you knew I was a snake when you took me in.

    3. TRUMP always brags and boast about what “I will Do. And I will….”
    3.He fires or gets rid of anyone opposing him
    4.He will twist the facts and story however he wants it to be even after everyone sees it and hears it the 1st time
    5. He has long time
    And respected military leaders who are doing things against their military code of contact.
    6. Republicans who see his true nature speak out against him but almost seem to say never mind when it’s time to vote against or publicly stay true opposing him.
    7. He hand picks the media he will interact with and demonizes others
    8.my prediction; next year he will be throwing out statements hinting at him being in office a second term or for 7 more years… watch…
    9. There are Christian’s who can not see that his behavior and actions past and current are so contrary to WWJD or Christ like…

    AND 10 according to the Bible Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

    1. The Left Behind series is fictional and was created to make its author rich, as well as being eschatologically incorrect. I wouldn’t use it as my guide to who the antichrist is or as to how things will go down.

    1. Robert Strickland

      King David waged war his entire life and was a chronic womaniser, and yet was beloved of GOD. Now hold my hand and repeat after me ” praise the lord Donald”

      1. David repented of his sins T-rump doesn’t feel the need to EVER ask G-D for forgiveness.. “He doesn’t bring him into that picture”

    2. I think you just verified the cultist and inexplicable phenomenon of people idolizing an evil person like Donald Trump. Christians are literally turning their backs on the very tenets of Christianity and turning their backs on all we know of God by accepting, excusing, supporting, cheering, and idolizing a man as dishonest, greedy, corrupt, immoral, narcissistic, traitorous, unintelligent and mentally unstable as Trump. You truly, truly need to wake up, my friend.

    1. Bush created that policy. Obama left it in place. Nobody enforced the law as they should have. Trump did enforce the law, as that is the government’s job according to Scripture “for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil”, until he signed an executive order today, so that it is no longer the law. He is not ripping children out of the arms of their mothers. Many of these children aren’t even the children of the people bringing them into the country. They are merely devices to get the people into the country. But don’t let the facts disturb your narrative.

      1. Every vile word you say about these mothers and children makes you look more and more brainwashed. With your level of inhumanity I pray you’re not a mother. A good mother will do anything – ANYTHING – to protect their child, even crossing a border. Also, that tired story about another president making this law is not only tired but incorrect. Do your research. And isn’t it interesting how interested Trump followers are in “enforcing and obeying the law” yet don’t make even a squeak about all the laws and rules Trump’s broken throughout his entire, selfish, ignorant life?

      2. Connie, Proverbs chapter 17 verse 15 he that justifies the wicked and he that condemns the just even they both are Abomination to the Lord

    2. Bethany O'Neil

      Donald Trump is a War Monger and a Whore Monger. He will destroy America and cause so much bloodshed.. Him having no regard for the desire of women is a myth. DONALD TRUMP IS THE ANTICHRIST.
      Watch utube videos by Brother James Keys

      1. I too believe he is the Antichrist, As far as having no regard for the desire of women, does not mean he is gay . He doesn’t respect women. What other President in the history of our Country, has had women come out in droves the day after his swearing in Office. There is enmity between him and the woman. That was prophesied in Genesis between Eve and the serpent.Yes, Brother James Keys is right on.

      2. Having ‘NO regard for Women,” could also mean, he has zero respect for them and we all know how trump feels about women, calling them “horseface” and such…… at least that’s how I interpret it.

    3. Yep….
      https://youtu.be/ZEgiTR1VC18

      Watch this clip from the left behind
      Series
      …….
      1.Trump says he could shoot someone in time square and his v
      Base would still support him

      2. Trump tells the parable of inviting a snake into your home and when he bites you..the snake simply says you knew I was a snake when you took me in.

      3. TRUMP always brags and boast about what “I will Do. And I will….”
      3.He fires or gets rid of anyone opposing him
      4.He will twist the facts and story however he wants it to be even after everyone sees it and hears it the 1st time
      5. He has long time
      And respected military leaders who are doing things against their military code of contact.
      6. Republicans who see his true nature speak out against him but almost seem to say never mind when it’s time to vote against or publicly stay true opposing him.
      7. He hand picks the media he will interact with and demonizes others
      8.my prediction; next year he will be throwing out statements hinting at him being in office a second term or for 7 more years… watch…
      9. There are Christian’s who can not see that his behavior and actions past and current are so contrary to WWJD or Christ like…

      AND 10 according to the Bible Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

  29. Michelle Rodriguez

    This is a pointless article and a waste or my time reading it because the prophecy is clear that President Trump’s role will be the head of the NWO in which every Nation succumbs to only one leader. After this happens, the Anti-Christ shall ruse up from the Middle East and announce himself. Very clear…

    1. President Trump is a nationalist, not a globalist… The presidents over that last 3 terms were leading us towards globalism, NWO, not this current President.

  30. For those of you who are new, I believe with certainty that Trump is the Antichrist and documented it in a book before the 2016 elections. The headlines in the news continue to support my conclusions. Here are just a few.

    For starters, we have the meeting between Trump and Kim Sung Un. Pay close attention to the body language of both leaders (nobody’s talking about this). Watch their eyes. Pay close attention to Kim’s facial expression and sweat. He either looks ill or terrified. I mention in my book how Trump enters into a meeting with adversaries and comes out as “pals.” https://youtu.be/5fgwTlGslLM

    Here is Time Magazine’s latest cover as Trump as “King.” http://time.com/magazine/us/5304193/june-18th-2018-vol-191-no-23-u-s/

    And finally, Bob Corker referring to his fellow Republicans as the cult of Trump. https://youtu.be/3o8eIsELJWw

  31. I only read a part of this, but the desire of women is talking about the so called “goddess” Diana from Ephesians. The passage is not literally talking about the desire of women.

    1. I’m wondering if that verse might ultimately be conveying the idea that Antichrist will not have any regard or respect for women.

      1. the desire of most of the catholic women is the virgin mary. Catholics ignorantly worships and venerates mary through the rosary. If the catholics are about 1.5billion in number, this number is so big to be ignored by the antichrist in including them in his grand scheme of deception.
        The context of the verses is about gods so the object of the desire of women is their god.

        1. Whether you call her Mary, Diana, Gaia, Sophia, Isis or whatever, she is all the same entity. She is Babylon. She just goes by different names in different cultures and times.

      2. If the antichrist is a movement or religion that has no regard for women, might we be able to posit that Islam is AC? It is as said in the bible any no believer in Christ is anti-christ and Islam is vehemently against Christ, and women are objects. Just thought I would throw it out there… food for thought.

  32. I sincerely believe that we are entering the period 2 Thess 2 calls, “The Apostasy”. I believe the falling away is not just a falling away of Christian doctrine, or even as my book suggests, political order, but that it is even more fundamental than that. It is a falling away of truth itself.

    For all of you that believe that Fox News is practically a mouthpiece for God Himself, I encourage you to watch this clip.
    https://youtu.be/BKuat8VJxq8

  33. I had what I believe is an enlightening realization today. In my previous post, I discussed this abandonment of truth. People WILL NOT CONSIDER FACTS ANYMORE.

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 says, “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition”

    The “falling away” means “rebellion, revolt, departure” In my book, I suggested it could be pointing to the “rebellion” that was taking place in government. I was not dogmatic.

    Traditionally, the falling away – Greek apostasia (apostasy) was thought to mean a departure of the Christian faith, either through the rapture or just an erosion of belief and doctrine.

    I am now believing that the definition is much more fundamental — one that encompasses ALL the above. THE FALLING AWAY IS A FALLING AWAY OF TRUTH ITSELF.

    I believe this was hinted at by Pilot ( a type of antichrist) when he asked Jesus, “What is truth?”

    From Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance: Feminine of the same as apostasion; defection from truth (properly, the state) (“apostasy”) — falling away, forsake.

    Are we already in the falling away? Is it right around the corner? Clearly, truth is being maligned…no more than by our president.

    http://time.com/4709920/donald-trump-truth-time-cover/

  34. I recently had lunch with a Christian brother. He asked me a question regarding Trump. I answered, supplying evidence from reports in the news media. My friend basically responded by stating that the media has been corrupted and can no longer be trusted. He implied that Trump’s maneuvers to squelch the freedom of the press was a good thing because, after all, “We can get the facts through Trump’s tweets and rallies.” I reminded him that that was the behavior of every dictator of the past. It’s called propaganda.

    A CNN clip reminded me of our past talk, so I sent him this email. (below)

    I believe Trump has virtually succeeded in convincing his base that nothing the media reports has any merit (Only exceptions being Fox and conservative radio, of course.) Trump admitted to Lesley Stahl that discrediting the media is one of his tactics.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lesley-stahl-donald-trump-said-attacking-press-to-discredit-negative-stories/

    This ironically leaves the press with similar challenges I’ve had with some concerning my book — namely — if what I (or the media) say or report falls on deaf ears, how will people ever know the truth? If something is ruled out as false from the get-go because of bias or whatever, how do you get people to listen and consider what you have to say?

    Every day, Trump continues to do and say the most outlandish things. But there is a very large segment of society that simply won’t hear it because conservative radio and Fox News ignores it and those who DO report it can’t be trusted. It’s as if half the nation has adopted a conspiracy-centered epistemology. Every day, people on the news are left stunned and bewildered by what is happening. But the folks on the Right (including many Evangelicals) will not consider a word of it because they think it’s all part of this universal deep-state conspiracy to overthrow Trump and replace him with some Obama clone. People have become paranoid on a mass scale.

    As with all conspiracies, there is always an element of truth. But in the process, real and true facts are simply discarded as false or unimportant as they’re systematically thrown out with the baby’s bath water. Reporting is suspect by mere reason of guilt by association. If it’s on CNN, it’s automatically false because it’s CNN.

    This should be a grave concern to anybody whose brain is still firing. We have become a nation that only preaches to the choir (the base of the person speaking) — NOBODY ELSE WILL LISTEN OR EVEN CONSIDER LISTENING.

    This happens on both sides of the aisle. Hannity often says, “Journalism is dead.” What he’ll never acknowledge is that he was part and parcel to its murder.

    A clip of some of Trump’s antics — probably false because the source is CNN.

    https://youtu.be/FVeR-tMp890

    1. Ariana Hendricks

      I have concluded that Trump is the AC as well. My back story is super crazy and non religious. I have never studied the Bible in an organized way and my details on names events etc. are subpar. I did read enough over the years that I am confident of any assertion I have in regard to DT. When he was elected I cried. If you knew me you would know that crying for me takes something catastrophic and well here we are and that was BEORE everything that happened since. I believe those tears came from something predestined/prewritten in my heart. I didn’t understand it then but it’s all coming together now. I’ve talked with my atheist (he’s getting there) husband about it. He calmly takes it all in and sometimes can be the best person to talk to about it because he isn’t so enthralled. He asked me a very simple question and I I didn’t know what to say because I guess I haven’t ever really thought about it. But he said so – what now?

      1. Hi Ariana. Your story really intrigues me. I’m not sure where you are presently with the whole “God thing”, but it sounds like He is getting you and your husband’s attention. I would LOVE to send you a complimentary copy of my book. It ties Trump to the Word of God. If you would like a copy (or 2), just email me: [email protected]
        There is also a contact section at the bottom of my website: RiseoftheLittleHorn.com
        Either one works. I just need an address from you and I’ll have Amazon send it directly.

        1. Ariana Hendricks

          Thank you for the kind gesture but I will purchase it through amazon! I have to admit that I saw the book a while ago and didn’t think to buy it until I saw your comments here. You know your stuff. Its rare anymore!

          Also, thank you for your reply! I wanted to mention Brother James Key on YouTube. He is right on track with all of this as well! He has a new video every other day or so and he’s helped me understand specifics.

          In regard to where I stand with God, I do not go to church. I read the Bible for myself. I try and follow the words of Jesus in all of my actions. That’s all I know. Thank you again for your reply!

  35. I remember back to one of my first exchanges on this blog with my brother, Wayne. It was over whether Trump would ever be the kind of man that would order people to worship him. In my response, I stated that Trump already seeks worship, hence these “campaign” rallies he continues to have “post” campaign. I stated as much in my book that there were already a large number of people that worship Donald Trump. (That was back in 2016.)

    Well….here we are. Jerusalem is practically turning into “Trump town” with features of Trump Train, Trump Square, a minted Trump Coin, signs all over Jerusalem saying, “Make Israel Great Again.” — not to mention the embassy celebration on May 14th where Trump was practically celebrated as Israel’s next Messiah.

    And now, enter our new “Christian” brother on this blog — ICE. He has systematically gone through the comments in this blog and responded to guests, calling me:
    — a liberal
    — some one who posts garbage
    — a believer of any “fake” network news clip
    — one who “stirs up trouble”
    — full of lies
    — full of blasphemy
    — evil
    — an Antichrist

    If you look at the above list, this is not unlike the very accusations that were brought against Christ and the Apostles. I believe Jesus was speaking a dual-prophecy when He said the words, “the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.” I time is soon coming when men with power will throw men as myself in prison. I just pray the rapture occurs before such time. I believe that men like ICE demonstrate the kind of twisted zeal that could eventually develop into such an unfettered devotion towards Donald Trump. I am not accusing him of that mindset presently. But what if the stakes were raised? What if men like myself were seen as a threat to global peace and security. Things can change and will change — very quickly. As I said, “ICE”, you are just making my point. When the truth is on your side, the opposing side just needs to open their mouth. I think it is fundamentally clear that ICE’s accusations are all , in and of themselves, LIES.

    A final note: A shout of thanks to Wayne for the “warning” to ICE. My thought is this: Don’t block the guy. HE’S MAKING MY CASE!!

  36. I think it is fair to say that “Watchman” or “Jonathan Dane” could be the AntiChrist. I have never seen anybody post so much garbage. Also, it appears they believe any clip that they see on whatever network or news source. They are both full of blasphemy and lies. It’s amazing how Obama fit the full description of the AC, not Trump, and they are both on here talking Trump. Trump has done more good for Christians than any other president.

  37. If you call slapping women in the vag*na and beating up former wives a love of Women then you need to see a doctor. I don’t believe Donald Trump is the antichrist but he is a phony as a religious man. Still an Illuminati puppet for the Vatican. Just a shameless script reading satanic puppet.

  38. Aside for a few holdouts, I’m noticing that there is less refutation of Trump=AC on here. Wonder why that is. (I’m not saying that rhetorically. I truly wonder why that is.) Is it possible that events in the world seem to be heading that way and the naysayers are taking more of a “wait and see” posture? Perhaps — perhaps not.

    Anyway…It’s pretty fair to assume that most on here believe that the Antichrist will have a direct connection to the third temple and perhaps even be the one to build it. Given that reality, this Google search for the words, [rabbi trump third temple 2018] I find to be fascinating. What are Rabbis in Israel saying concerning Trump?
    https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHZL_enUS687US687&ei=CaMJW7-IA8HX5gKHn5ngBg&q=rabbi+trump+third+temple+2018&oq=rabbi+trump+third+temple+2018&gs_l=psy-ab.3…2446.4553.0.5200.5.5.0.0.0.0.163.766.0j5.5.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.3.457…33i21k1j33i160k1.0.hmoDIkV_A_U

    1. Mike, I’m not saying Trump is AC but you sort of have to balance what you’re looking at along with other things about Trump that you’ve already seen and are still seeing.

      Trump said he’d never asked for forgiveness. He wants to build a wall to keep out the needy, he has recently referred to them as animals, and he has shown extreme disrespect towards women. These are just a few things among many that could be listed. There is nothing humble about Trump.

      Scripture says to test every spirit; it says that you will know believers by their fruit and that the apostate church will have a form of godliness but ultimately deny God’s power. We also know from scripture that Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

      Based on all of these things, do you think it is possible AC will be a person that prays? I’m just asking if you think that’s possible, I’m NOT saying Trump is AC.

      1. Can we at least get our facts straight and be honest about what is really done and said? Think of him what you want, but let’s at least get the facts right. Trump does not want a wall to keep out the needy. He wants to build a wall to keep out illegals and criminals. Legals are welcome. He did not say the needy or immigrants were animals. He said that MS-13 were animals, and they are. They rape, kill, dismember and do all sorts of unspeakable things to people. If that is not an animal, what is?

        1. Do you feel, from a Christian perspective, that MS-13 are animals rather than humans? I think his phrasing was ambiguous at best, but even if you want to say that he was talking only about MS-13, from a Christian standpoint, would you say that they aren’t people but animals?

          1. It is not just me saying this “IF I want to say” so. It is the truth. He was only talking about MS-13. Anyone who heard the entire clip will say that. Did you watch the entire clip of the interview when he said that about the MS-13? Most media will not show the entire thing, because it was clear from the context that he was referring only to MS-13. You need to check other news sources.

            And yes, even from a Christian standpoint, I think they are behaving like animals. What would you call it? No anywhere near decent human being would act in this totally abominable way, much less merely as an initiation into a gang. Can they be redeemed? Yes, if they accept the Lord, but that does not negate the behavior they are manifesting now. Would you feel any different about them being animalistic if they not only murdered, but raped, dismembered and violated in every imaginable way your family? These debauched, depraved, satanic people do not deserve to be called humans at this time. If they repent, that is different. For now this is what God says about them, if they remain in their unrepentant state. They are abominable, murderers, and whoremongers, and no doubt they worship Satan which makes them idolaters. God even calls people like this dogs, but maybe you are right. Maybe we shouldn’t insult the animals by calling them animals. Dogs are loving, gentle creatures for the most part. Perhaps a better appellation would have been to call them satanic, for that is what they presently are doing, acting like Satan. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

          2. Hey Connie, mind if I butt in? (LOL — sorry, I just know you and I are going to end up friends.)

            I agree with you your observation. But Watchman has the proper reaction. Are these “people” acting like animals? Yes, they are. But less we become too confident in our own “humanity”, we would do well to remember the phrase accredited to John Bradford, “There, but by the grace of God, go I.”

            The Apostle Paul says, “neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

            — You say, “If they repent, that is different.”
            — God says, “While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
            — You say, “Maybe we shouldn’t insult the animals by calling them animals.”
            — Christ says, “Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them…If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that.”

            Connie, I speak only for myself. If it weren’t for the precious grace of God, saving me from my wretched self and the punishment that self deserves, I would be the worst of animals. Aside from the common grace of God that extends to ALL MEN – including the unregenerate, to be beast-like IS our human nature. That includes you, Connie.

            Want to see into the near future? Look to MS-13. They’re behavior will soon become commonplace.

          3. I agree with what you put above, Jonathan. I also think it’s worth remembering what Jesus says in Matthew 24:12-13 about love growing cold. It’s clear to me that believers are going to have to really guard against this going forward.

            (And, Connie, I do understand why you feel the way you do about MS-13. I’m not saying I can’t relate; I definitely can.)

            I listened to the following sermon by Alistair Begg a couple of days ago and thought it was really good. It ties in to all of this as well, in my opinion, but it’s more from the perspective of believers’ involvement in politics in general. Begg does a good job of articulating the trap that I feel I have personally been a part of for far too long in this sermon.

            We’re all going to have to negotiate the waters ahead very carefully, I think, if our aim is to win as many to Christ as possible. I’m still trying to understand exactly how to do that myself. It definitely isn’t easy.

            https://www.truthforlife.org/resources/sermon/slaves-and-masters/

        2. I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me trustworthy, appointing me to his service. Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

          Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

  39. I think I can prove you wrong about evidence against Trump being the Antichrist. Here they are:

    + SUPER POPULAR VS SUPER POLARIZING — You conclude Trump cannot be viewed as a Messianic Figure. But just wait until he solves the Korean and Iranian nuke problem. Then he will get the Nobel Peace Prize which they instead gave to Obama.

    + THE DESIRE OF WOMEN — You conclude that Daniel 11:37 is interpreted as the Antichrist not desiring women. But you havfe mistranslated that verse. Check the online Bible for all translations and you will see that verse refers to the Antichrist not desiring “the god” that women love by exhalting himself above all “gods”.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Daniel%2011:37

    + THE PEAK OF ARROGANCE — You conclude that 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 is interpreted as the Antichrist literally sitting in the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem asking to be worshipped as God. But in the Book of Revelation, the dream symbol interpretation of the “New” Jerusalem is that of a Temple. Trump is also the perfect dream archetype of the worldly businessman — an antichrist. Having Trump’s picture hanging in the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem for the first time in world history could be a fulfillment of this prophecy.

    + A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF CHARISMA — You conclude that Trump is no Hitler. But you forget that before Hitler started World War II and killing Jews, through the force of his own personality, Hitler created the “German economic miracle” by vastly increasing the military and government infrastructure spending. This is something Trump wants to do.

    + THE ULTIMATE GLOBALIST — You conclude Trump is no globalist; but in an economic sense, you are wrong. Globalism is really socialism and centralized government. Trump, like Hitler, is a nationalist. But what makes Trump the ulimate globalist is because he is the ultimate Capitalist. In fact, the American dollar and the American economic system virtually runs the world and Trump is at the very Head of it. The Russian economy is the size of the State of Maryland. China cannot survive without us. This is why capitalism rules the world now that communism is virtually gone.

    + THE ABILITY TO DEFEAT HIS STRONGEST OPPONENTS — You need to update this article. Trump is on the way to ending the Korean War, redoing the Iranian nuke deal, destroying ISIS in the Middle East, etc.

    So, if you add what yopu wrote supporting Trump as the Antichrist, you have a great article supporting him as the Antichrist.

  40. THE DOMINO EFFECT

    We’ve all played dominoes — no, not the game, we’ve all stacked them side-by-side in a long row to watch them tumble over. I’ve said it before, I’m no writer. This is new territory for me. What I’ve learned is that for a book to succeed, it needs a domino effect. In order for dominoes to work properly, they need to be spaced at just the right proximity to each other. If they’re too close, there’s not enough momentum and if they’re too far apart, the domino falls without transferring the force onto the next domino. Unfortunately, the second scenario is what’s happening with my book.

    I’ve been bustin’ my ass trying to create some kind of momentum. Here’s the problem. For starters, the first domino doesn’t want to tip — it’s too heavy. And when it does, the space between it and the next domino is too vast — the momentum stops before reaching the next domino – the next person. If I were “marketing” this book as some kind of novel, perhaps people would be interested. But I’m not. That’s the problem. If I told people it was made up, they’d “buy it.” At this point, there is too much energy involved in tipping one domino to create a domino effect. Hence, the book lays dormant.

    If I manage to convince one person to read the book, I’m overjoyed. But that is a tall order. Not only that, a domino effect requires that that same person, in turn, does the same for another person, and they another, and another. But that requires those “converts” to be as invested into this “idea” as am I. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case. If a domino tips, it typically falls without touching the next domino.

    I am a strong believer in God’s sovereignty. I was under no false expectation when I wrote this book. I realized that I likely may not be here to enjoy the fruit of my endeavors. I do believe God will use this work — somehow. But I may not be here to see it. Think about it — if I’m right — Trump needs to ascend. And if the book takes off, how would that happen? Ironically, the book almost “prophesies” its own failure – kind of a builtin sabotage. It must fail. If it succeeds, it sabotages its own truthfulness. And if it’s true, it sabotages its own success. My only hope is that before the Rapture, some event may occur that will turn the tide, allowing an open door for the book to prosper. Beyond that, I will have to be content with any success being viewed from heaven (post-rapture). And that’s okay…not my first choice…but God knows what He’s doin’.

    Here’s the bottom line: 99% of people do not want to even consider it. Of that 1%, most are not invested enough to tip over the next domino. As long as that is the case, the book will sit under the radar. And there is not a d*mn thing I can do about it. My late father once told me, “If it proves too much, it proves nothing.” Ironically, he was the one who taught me about the Antichrist. If he were alive today, he’d be a domino tipper.

    I don’t know why I left this comment. It’s just a bunch of stream of consciousness. (Probably one of those comments I’ll reread tomorrow and ask, “Why did you leave that?”). I’m just thinking out loud.

    Curious your thoughts. Part of this results from my plans to send out 200 books to various prophecy teachers worldwide — knowing that I will not hear back from 199 of them. It is what it is.

    Pray for me. Discerning how to proceed and if whether doing so is an act of futility.

  41. All politicians lie…but so what? Is there something exceptional about Donald Trump? That’s the question. James Comey recently said that the man is “untethered from the truth” and is “morally unfit to serve.” Yet, as Watchman and others have recently indicated, it is undeniable that “something” is happening. Now former Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson is saying this: https://youtu.be/nkJ5-jspPd4
    One of the fundamental requirements for the Antichrist is being “untethered from the truth.” It’s one of his most common characteristics in the Bible.

  42. Dear naysayers — so, here we are. With practically a wave of some “tweets”, Trump virtually brings an end to the nearly 70-year Korean War. And now — on the 70th anniversary of the formation of the state of Israel, we have this: https://youtu.be/MISVkrFAiFk

    Oh….but there’s nothing to see here, folks. This is all just coincidence. (And Mount Rushmore is a product of wind erosion.)

    At some point, the elephant is going to need a bigger room.

    1. I never thought I would say it but I am beginning to believe that you could be right about what you are claiming Jonathan. Did you see new coin for Trump? It has Trump/Cyrus image on front with rebuilt 3rd temple and dove image on back. I think they were calling Trump “Donald the Dove” as nickname before election if I recall correctly.

      1. Yes, Israeli — Trump/Cyrus coin, Trump train, Trump square, Trump city. Today that had “Make Israel great again” signs all over Jerusalem streets. Netanyahu made numerous historic Temple references followed by a reference to a Israeli owned temple mount. The prophetic references in today’s ceremony were blatant. There was a Messiah reference that led right into a reference to Trump.

        Thrilling time to live. (Naysayers must be on vacation.)

        1. I hope they are not in vacation in Hawaii. I am very concerned this volcano is going to be a big one. I have been praying for those people there.

        1. Wow. That is a very interesting video Jonathan. Now I know why they called him by that nickname before the election. Unbelievable, very unbelievable.

          1. Hey Watchman, yes…I remember that clip. It is interesting that it was published just one week before I realized who Trump was. I also remember a time just before that realization in March, having a conversation with my lovely wife and asking her, “What’s happening? Something isn’t right.” I talk about this in the book. Here’s an excerpt:

            When Trump got into the weeds with Megyn Kelly during the initial Republican debate, I sensed that he was an exceptionally proud and arrogant man. I went on my own campaign against him; making phone calls, writing emails, calling news agencies and talk shows, posting madly to Facebook―whatever I could do to try to stop a really bad person from wrecking the Republican Party and damaging the nation. NeverTrump was my obsession. It was merely political for me. Yet―even then―something else was bothering me.

            We all watched in amazement as a seemingly psychologically unbalanced man ran for the highest office in the world; doing and saying outrageous things that would have sunk the career of any other politician. He was slanderous, mean-spirited, obnoxious, reactionary, puerile, vengeful, crude and distasteful; attacking and mischaracterizing his opponents; all in the name of “political correctness.” Concerned parents were forced to screen the debates for their children because this petulant “man” found it necessary to boast about the size of his penis, like some third-grade child who had just discovered he had one. His rhetoric lacked any true principle. He single-handedly changed the essence of the political conversation from real issues to petty and obsessive personal attacks. Just when we thought he could stoop no lower, Trump dug the gutter down one more level. Much of what came out of his mouth made him sound like some insecure dude in a bar spewing off about just how incredible he was.

            As mind-numbing as this demagogue behaved, that was not what shocked me the most. It was, rather, the public acceptance and justification of such behavior―the response he got from so many people. This astounded me. Something was not right. I do not mean that in the sense of some moral or civil deficit―be it personal or collective. I mean not right, in terms of the laws of nature and rationality. A phenomenon seemed to be occurring outside these laws. Oh sure, all the pundits gave it their best attempt at analysis with oft repeated phrases like: “People are angry.” “This is Obama’s fault.” “People are fed up with the establishment in Washington.” These phrases were repeated and recycled, ad nauseum. But they did little towards actually explaining anything.

            Something was happening outside of the machine; something far less explainable. People were acting as if they were under some kind of spell. This effect was not limited to “the uneducated people”―you know―the ones Donald Trump says he loves. Intelligent people like Chris Christie, Ben Carson, and Newt Gingrich, as well as people in the media, seemed to be losing discernment, or at least appeared unaffected by things occurring right under their noses. Reasonable, intelligent people, critical of Donald Trump, would enter private meetings with him as opponents and exit as good buddies. Suddenly, they understood him. After Melania Trump’s RNC speech, even Karl Rove got in on the act, commenting that her speech was “warm and authentic.” That is, aside from the parts she plagiarized from Michelle Obama’s 2008 convention speech.

            (end of quote)

            I sincerely believe that we are seeing the beginnings of delusion in 2 Thess 2:11. What is strange about the present delusion is that it appears to be a segment of believers that are deluded. I touched on this with “Brez.” Evangelicals seemed to have set aside their “reason” for “emotion.” It has become political a “win, no matter the cost” narrative.

            I am finding the same phenomenon taking place concerning my book. People simply refuse to consider the possibility of my conclusions. What reasoned arguments are offered against it are easily dismissed. Most offer no arguments at all, but simply assert things such as, “We (you) can’t know…” Another line of argument is simply to attack my “person” in the form of ad hominem. I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve got a way to go with Christ-like humility and communication, but to dismiss my conclusions outright based on my “delivery” is another form of emotionalism. I strongly suspect that many on this blog who make such emotional appeals do so because they are part of the “tribe of Trump.” Most are frankly ardent Trump supporters, caught up in this phenomenon. I believe at some point (likely in Trump’s second term) these folks’ eyes will open and they will turn on Trump. This “betrayal” of Trump will be what will later fuel the Antichrist persecution of the saints. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/544611347255013376?lang=en

          2. We’ve been on similar paths, Jonathan. Truly amazing.

            I have a long way to go with Christ-like humility, too, and I don’t think it helps to be totally convinced that you have an unbelievably important message to communicate – only to be continuously rejected right out of the gate regardless of how carefully you present or arrange your words.

            I’m not encouraging antagonistic behavior on anyone’s part, don’t get me wrong, but for what it’s worth, your behavior was actually a selling point for me regarding your book. I ultimately concluded it would be irresponsible to dismiss your assertions because of your communication, if the argument was that you were only interested in selling your book. That didn’t really add up, lol.

            So, I have ordered your book and am going to give it a serious, open-minded read. I see no harm in doing that. Plus, if I’m honest, I already think you could be on to something. It’s virtually impossible to deny that something is happening with Trump and the alliances that have been forming, truth be told. The only question is: what exactly?

            I don’t even need to believe that Trump is AC to see the incredible havoc he’s already wreaking in the name of Christ, however, and that’s what infuriates me most. That and the fact that I’ve silently watched it unfold for almost a year (or however long it has been) with a growing feeling inside of me that something is very, very wrong.

            Anyway, I realize you got off on the wrong foot with many of the people on this site but I do understand first-hand how easily that can happen. I know there are a lot of people in here that do care about Christ and what’s true more than they do about politics in the final analysis. Not only that, but many have also experienced similar types of rejection while trying to convey messages of their own.

            Therefore, my hope is that we can all forgive past differences (we’re Christians, after all), stop being antagonistic toward each other, and work together for the edification of the entire body.

            I look forward to reading your book!

          3. Watchman, your words are wise and humbling, especially the last two paragraphs. Right on. Thank you

            Glad you are reading the book. No doubt, you will give a straight-up opinion on its interior. I would expect no less.

          4. Jonathan you are still seeing Trump wrongly. You are taking 1 trait – pride – and running with Trump is the AC stuff. Many people like Cyrus and Neb had pride yet God used them to protect God’s people. You look at pride but you don’t look deeper. The deeper understanding asks is Trump for individual rights or for increased/centralization of government rights? The AC consolidates powder and eliminates personal freedom. The 20th century oppressive governments were socialist governments. Trump hates socialism. You are not looking deeper at the situation. Even if Trump brings peace does not mean he is AC. The AC rises up the peace agreement. Meanwhile Trump is already risen to power. You need to look to Greece/Macedonia politics. There’s some satanic stuff going on there and most likely the AC rises from there. You are totally wrong about Trump. Check this video out – released 1 month before the 2016 election! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzuxTEq-plE&t=1833s

          5. Hey Mike, I respect your zeal. I’m not going to go into a lengthy back-and-forth as before, not because I don’t think it’s important, but only because I believe it is unfair to make me do the work twice when I have already done the work in my book. My suggestion is to read my book to see if your accusation that I am “only taking 1 trait and running with it” (and also if my lack of “looking deeply into the matter”) holds any weight. My gosh, my very first comment alone on here (among dozens of others on this forum) lists off approximately 100 traits that coincide between Trump and the AC! So your accusation is simply untrue. Now….if you want to say that the specific evils I point out all boil down to “pride,” that’s a reasonable argument to make. My rebuttal would be that such is the case FOR ALL SIN and evil men because all sin originates from pride. It was pride that led to the fall of Lucifer.

            Like I said, read my book so you can really know what evidence I have to present (or more accurately “had” prior to the election). From there, we can have a more reasonable and intelligent discussion. If you don’t want to spend the money, I’ll send you one. If you don’t to want to make the investment of time, I only conclude that it is you that is shallow in this matter, not I.

  43. Right on Cue:
    President Donald Trump took the podium at the NRA convention on May 4 amid massive applause, thanked NRA leadership and the “American patriots of the NRA,” then launched into a speech reaffirming that our natural rights originate in God.

    This is something the AC would never do.