2018 Rapture? Israel & the Last Generation?

You will likely hear a lot of speculation about the potential for the Rapture to occur in 2018. Much of the speculation about a 2018 Rapture will center on the seventieth anniversary of the creation of the state of Israel. You will likely hear some Bible prophecy “experts” teach at least the following three things:

  1. Israel represents the fig tree that Christ referenced in His teachings about the end of the age
  2. Christ taught that the generation that saw the creation of the state of Israel would see His coming.
  3. The generation that saw the creation of the state of Israel is ending in 2018 in a biblical sense.

In this article, I will provide my thoughts on this 2018 Rapture theory in anticipation of the speculation that will soon arise.

A 2018 Rapture vs Various Rapture Timelines

I expect those who anticipate a 2018 Rapture will predominantly be believers in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture (the position that posits that the Rapture can come at any time) because a 2018 Rapture does not mesh well with the respective timelines of the Mid-Trib, Pre-Wrath, and Post-Trib positions. The following table shows the start date of the seventieth week of Daniel (or the seven year end time period that people often refer to as “the tribulation”) if a 2018 Rapture took place on the first day or the final day of the year under the Mid-Trib Rapture and Post-Trib Rapture scenarios.[1]

2018 Rapture? Start of the 70th Week of Daniel for Various Rapture Date Scenarios*
Rapture Position Jan. 1, 2018 Dec. 31, 2018

Mid-Trib

July 21, 2014 July 20, 2015
Post-Trib February 7, 2011 February 6, 2012
*The start dates under the Pre-Wrath Rapture scenario would fall between the Mid-Trib and Post-Trib dates

As shown in the table above, a 2018 Rapture is impossible under the Post-Trib, Mid-Trib, and Pre-Wrath Rapture scenarios. Nevertheless, I expect a large portion of this article’s readers to believe that the Rapture can occur at any point in time or possibly in 2018, so I will continue my critique.

The Length of a Biblical Generation

The 2018 Rapture theory under consideration depends on a biblical generation being seventy years in length. However, debate exists about the length of a biblical generation. Some believe that a biblical generation is 40 years in length given that it took the Lord forty years to remove a generation of His people:

“And the LORD’S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.” (Numbers 32:13)

“(10) Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways: 11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.” (Psalm 95:10-11)

“(8) Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: (9) When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. (10) Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.” (Hebrews 3:8-10)

Meanwhile, others argue that a biblical generation is seventy years or even eighty years in length by citing Psalm 90:10.

“The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.” (Psalm 90:10)

Although few people these days live to one hundred years of age, some argue that a generation lasts for as much as 120 years based on what is found in Genesis 6:3.

“And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.” (Genesis 6:3)

Those who believe in the 2018 Rapture theory under consideration are likely inclined to believe that a biblical generation is at least seventy years in length.  However, remember that the length of a biblical generation is debatable.

Israel as the Fig Tree

I have written previously on the subject of Israel representing a fig tree. Three key passages often cited by those who believe Israel symbolically represents the fig tree are: Jeremiah 24:1-9, Hosea 9:10, and Mark 11:13-23:

  • Jeremiah 24:1-9 describes two groups of figs: those who were taken captive (the good figs) and those who remained in the land of Israel and lived in land of Egypt (the bad figs):
  • Hosea 9:10 compares the Israelites to the firstripe of a fig tree: “I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.
  • Mark 11:13-25 (also found in Matthew 21:18-22). Mark 11:13-14 mentions that Christ commanded a fig tree to never grow fruit again while Mark 11:20-21 describes the discovery of the same fig tree-now withered away. Some people view the cursing of the fig tree as a symbolic denunciation of Israel’s poor spiritual condition at the time. I know others have different ideas of what the symbolic signficance of the curse placed on the fig tree is, so the issue of why Christ cursed the fig tree is not something that I am dogmatic about.

I will not argue for or against the idea that Israel has some symbolic connection to the fig tree in this article because whether Israel is symbolically represented by the fig tree or not has no bearing on my view concerning the Parable of the Fig Tree. I’ll discuss the Parable of the Fig Tree next.

The Parable of the Fig Tree… and All the Trees

For sake of argument, let’s assume that a biblical generation is 70 years in length so that 2018 is the end of the generation that saw the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. The following passages are connected to the teaching people refer to as the Parable of the Fig Tree.

“(32) Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: (33) So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. (34) Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. (35) Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. (36) But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” (Matthew 24:32-36)

“(28) Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: (29) So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. (30) Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. (31) Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. (32) But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” (Mark 13:28-32)

“(29) And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; (30) When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. (31) So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. (32) Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.” (Luke 21:29-32)

Notice that Luke recorded Christ saying, “Behold the fig tree, and all the trees” in verse 29.  I believe the inclusion of “all the trees” in the parable is quite significant.  The inclusion of all trees means that the parable is not exclusive to the fig tree. Christ described a phenomenon that is found in a variety of trees with an emphasis on the fig tree. Therefore, I argue that the parable does not concern Israel even if Israel is represented by the fig tree since the parable concerns phenomena found in a variety of trees. I believe the central message of the parable is that people ought to know that Christ’s coming is near when they see the signs Christ described like people know that summer is near when fig trees and other trees put forth leaves.

Concerning “this generation shall not pass (away)”, I believe Christ taught that the generation that sees the heavenly signs and signs on the earth He referenced would be the generation that would see His Coming.  These signs won’t occur until at least after the opening of the sixth seal as shown in the following table:

    Signs Connected to Christ’s Coming
The Sun Darkens  The Moon Changes  Signs in the Heavens Massive Seismic Activity
Revelation 6:12-14: (12) And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquakeand the sun became black as sackcloth of hairand the moon became as blood; (13) And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. (14) And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled togetherand every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Matthew 24:29: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkenedand the moon shall not give her lightand the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mark 13:24-27: (24) But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkenedand the moon shall not give her light, (25) And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. (26) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. (27) And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Luke 21:25-27: (25) And there shall be signs in the sunand in the moonand in the starsand upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; (26) Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (27) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Therefore, I do not believe Christ taught that the generation that witnessed the creation of the state of Israel would be the last generation before His Coming.  Instead, I believe Christ taught that His Coming will be imminent when the heavenly signs and signs on the earth He described occur.  The Parable of the Fig Tree is simply an analogy to help people understand how certain developments can alert someone about the proximity of an upcoming event.  Thus, I do not believe the Parable of the Fig Tree is a teaching that supports a 2018 Rapture date.

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  1. I subtracted the dates in the Mid-Trib scenario by 1,260 days and 2,520 days in the Post-Trib scenario. 1,260 days and 2,520 days relate to the length of the seventieth week of Daniel.
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Wayne Croley
Wayne Croley

Hi! I’ve studied and written about Bible prophecy since I was a teenager. My goal is to make Bible prophecy easy for you to understand while avoiding the sensationalism seen elsewhere. I am the author of several end time books, including Prophecy Proof Insights on the End Times, a comprehensive book about the end times. I hold an M.B.A. and degrees in Managerial Economics and Political Science.

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  1. your opinion on the Rapture is just that your opinion like many many other people’s opinions are all different

    • Yes, I have an opinion like everyone else. However, I try to remove my emotions and my personal preferences when I write about the Rapture and other end time issues. Biblical support for a particular viewpoint is more important than what I want to be true.

  2. No rapture – the word isn’t in the Bible . The verses that some people think are referring to it are referring to other things . The rapture theory came from the imagination of Margaret McDonald .

    • 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The term “rapture” was coined from a Latin term to refer to the event described by the Greek term “harpazo” – being caught up (in the air to meet the Lord). Ignoring or denying a fact doesn’t make the fact cease to exist. The word “Bible” isn’t found in the Bible either, but the Bible exists. Now if you want to say that there is no pre-trib rapture, I will totally agree with you.

  3. There is simply no mention of a 7 year tribulation mentioned in scripture, its another lie from the father of lies. However, it is referring to Daniels 70th week mentioned in Dan. 9 misinterpreted as it may be. No where in history do you ever take a time prophecy, in this case 490 years and slice the last 7 years off to place it at the end of time. Satan had nothing to do with the daily oblation or sacrifice! Jesus Christ was the one who was cutoff 3.5 years into the final week or 7 years of His ministry when He was nailed to the cross. Do you even know what the most holy refers to? If you want to be free from error you must go back and study the Feast Days of Yashua (Lev 23). Psalms 77 tells us “Thy way oh God is in the Sanctuary.” Then you will see the need to learn how to tell time all over again according to His ways (Gen. 1: 14). Study to show thyself approved rightly dividing the word of God… There is much we need to unlearn and much we need to learn anew. If you desire to email me please do so. God bless.

  4. 13Then the LORD said to Abram, “You can be sure that your descendants will be strangers in a foreign land, where they will be oppressed as slaves for 400 years. 14But I will punish the nation that enslaves them, and in the end they will come away with great wealth. 15(As for you, you will die in peace and be buried at a ripe old age.) 16After four generations your descendants will return here to this land, for the sins of the Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction.”Gen 15:13-16.

    From this scripture, we can clearly see from Vs 15 and 16 that if 4 generation is 400 years, one generation is 100 years.
    The Bible said the generation that sees Israel come together again will by no means pass away…..Matt 24:34

    Now, Israel came together in May 14 1948. This was when the prophetic time clock started to count. Now if a generation is 100; 1948 +100=2048. Now subtract 2018 = 30years.
    Now note, Jesus didn’t say “at the end of the generation” “He said this generation will not pass away”…..we actually have “less than 30 years” brothers and sisters…..May we redeem the time and be amongst the 5wise virgins

    • well a generation is about 30 years so your about 280 years off and In Gen15:13-16 I do believe it was about Moses delivering them from bondage.

  5. I dunno the relation but I know King David was born in the year 1948, when Israel was founded. 70 years before 2018..

  6. i think the antichrist is as jesus was but differn he is a sinner who repented and came back to God he is the lost child , the prodigal son the one who returns (michael row your boat ashore) he is someone God chose ,one who is familiar with sin in the modern world one who loves life and people and the world he will solve all the worlds problems including poverty and disease created by greed and will expose the world to a better way of life and free the world of fear and hatred and has only the world and its people in mind and will show the world how love and understanding is far better than might to keep the peace
    ridding the world of guns is a much better idea than arming teachers in school lowering all borders is better than building a wall drilling water wells is better than sending bottles of water
    have you ever wandered why one year your taxes work just fine but the next theres a deficit and no one knows why because the people looking for the problem are the problem . Mankind has lost its way and needs guidance back to god
    this is his world not ours and he wants it back in one piece war is at our doorstep
    return to Gods 10 comandments

  7. Merely conjecture here. The state of Israel is not the state of Israel that god ordained. He gave them the promised land and the modern borders of Israel are nowhere near the inheiritance. This is mans kingdom. I believe the staye of Israel as god intended is comimg soon. Probably with war in syria. To restore the land.of Israel to it inheritance size. Then we may have a generation to observe this. Then the anitchrist and the real king.

  8. The word “after” should mean something … I think you are really not wanting your earthly life end sir like most people. I believe it is soon we are the generation timah wake up kid.

    • As someone who tries to be analytical, my critique has nothing to do with me wanting me to stay alive or not. I’m wide awake.

    • Could you explain what the word “after” has to do with the parable of the fig tree? I don’t see it anywhere in the verses about it. Nor do I see with why the word “after” has anything to do with Wayne being concerned about his earthly life. Could you please explain your remark for some elucidation?

  9. The text clearly says “after” the tribulation these signs show the near immediate return of Christ to set up his Kingdom on earth. The rapture has nothing to do with this (two different events), so not sure why this is used to support anything in the context of a false prophet 2018 rapture. Sure could be 2018 as I write this that the rapture occurs, but just ignore any stupidity from anyone who claims a year or date, the Bible is clear about that, so there is no need for explanation other than one simple scripture to call out any false prophet who attempts to do so. Why waste your time? Blessings

  10. I have a theory, that I’m not solid on, that the 70th Week could start in the Spring of 2018.

    But my Rapture view is a form of Mid-Trib, so it would place The Rapture in September or October of 2021, one either Yom Teruah or Yom Kippur.

  11. When studying the trumpets and the Jewish Feasts – I thought this was all very interesting: It appears that they blow a trumpet for Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) as well as they do for the Rosh Hashana (Feast of Trumpets). According to one article (“The Great Shofar To Be Blown at the End of Yom Kippur”), the “Trumpet” blown at Yom Kippur is not the “Last Trumpet”, but rather, the “Great Trumpet.” The article says that there is a difference. Apparently the “Last Trumpet” is blown first at the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashana), and the “Great Trumpet” is blown ten days later at Yom Kippur. All very interesting!

    1 Corinthians 15:52-53 “In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” (The dead are raised. But it doesn’t say that ‘we’ will be taken up – though – just ‘changed’ ??? )

    Matthew 24:31 “And he shall send his angels with a GREAT sound of a TRUMPET and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” (The dead in Christ are not mentioned here ??? – maybe they were already taken ??? – at the last Trump of Rosh Hashana, and now the rest who are “alive and remain” are being taken at the Great Trump” of Yom Kippur ???)

    1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 “For the LORD himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise FIRST: THEN we which are ALIVE and REMAIN shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the LORD.” (It says the dead will rise first – but it doesn’t specify how much sooner … maybe 10 days sooner …. ??? )

    I thought it was quite interesting. Because Jesus has fulfilled the Passover, First fruits, and Pentecost on the exact days – It makes one wonder about the Fall Festivals – and these different Trumpets is very interesting.

    • I believe Yom Kippur will have major end time significance. I’ll add that Yom Kippur can also coincide with a start of a Jubilee Year. We may have an end time Jubilee Year at the time of Christ’s coming. I’m not so sure about Rosh Hashana.

      • Maybe Rosh Hashana is when the “dead in Christ” are “raised” – meaning raptured (this is what I meant in my first comment; I’m not sure if I said it clearly). Because in 1 Corinthians 15:52-53 it says that the “dead shall be RAISED incorruptible” at the “Last Trumpet” – which is blown at Rosh Hashana. It doesn’t say that we (those who are alive) will be raised, though – it only adds “and we shall be changed.” So – I mean – maybe it is saying that only the “dead in Christ” will be raptured at this point.

        And, again, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says the dead are raised first, and “Then we which are alive and remain” – that word “remain” is interesting – how long does “remain” mean??? The “dead in Christ” are taken first – but we remain – for how long??? (Maybe 10 days ???)

        And, of course, Matthew 24 mentions the “Great Trumpet” which is blown at Yom Kippur – and again “the dead in Christ” are not even mentioned here – it is as if they are already gone.

        Okay – I’m not trying to insist that you believe me – I just want to be sure that you are understanding what I am trying to say – even if it is wrong. And… time will tell … Amen! And it seems soon! Praise God!!! Jesus is coming!!!

        I don’t know …. but I have found it all to be fascinating and interesting for sure. Your other article about a 1/2 hour got me thinking about all this too …. time will tell ….
        Thanks again for your input! I love studying the Word! Amen!

  12. The parable of the fig tree has nothing to do with political events. The fig tree in Matthiew 24 is NOT about 1948 or 1967. It’s about SPIRITUAL fruits.

    (Note that in Mat 24:32 “the branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves” but there are no fruits)

    “And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.”
    And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
    Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. (Mat 21:19-21)

    The mountain of salvation was removed from the earth (israel) and cast into the sea (all other peoples) (Compare Rev 5:3 – before Christ’s sacrifice in verse 9 – with Rev 5:13 – after Christ’s sacrifice in verse 9 – were the “see” is added.)

    Jesus said to Nathanael who was under the fig tree: “Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!”

    This is in contrast from people inside the temple that is become “a den of thieves” instead of a house of prayer. Nathanael prayed by himself under his fig tree – like a good Christian at home – and was without guile, while those inside the temple were doing traffic instead of praying. That’s the true meaning of John 1:47 that no pastors now will tell people, because their “churches” have become dens of thieves, or a house of traffic and vile entertainment, or “the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird” (Rev 18:2) that scratch electric guitar to play demonic rock music for church attendance and income!

  13. 2 Samuel 22 became Psalm 18=1918.
    All throughout Psalms 18, you read the book of Revelation.

    Battle of Haifa Sept 19-25, 1918, Israel during Feast of Tabernacles. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Haifa_(1918) End of WWI.
    The Battle of Haifa was fought on 23 September 1918 towards the end of the Battle of Sharon which together with the Battle of Nablus formed the set piece Battle of Megiddo fought between 19 and 25 September during the last months of the Sinai and Palestine Campaign of the First World War (WWI). These wars took place during a part of Feast of Tabernacles in the 7th Biblical Month which was the first month until the Exodus of 1441-1446 BCE.
    And 100 years (Lev 25:9-10 2x) later on September 19th, 2018, we have the Battle of Megiddo (Armageddon) at WWIII on the Day of Atonement in the 7th Biblical month.

  14. Adar 13. Wednesday. Possible Rapture day because a Jewish Messianic Rabbi believe the rapture will happen on a Wednesday (4th day).
    Axial poleshift on Day of Rapture when 300-400 million people disappear.

    Adar 14. March 1. Full Moon. Purim or Feast of Lots
    Commemorates the rescue of the Jewish people in ancient Persia (Late 6th century B.C.E.). Celebrated with feasts, special prayers, the reading of the Book of Esther, the sending of gifts from friend to friend, and extra charity. Work Restrictions: Limited restrictions on work. (Ester 9:2).
    Full Moon. Worm Moon, Sleepy Moon, Harvest Moon, Corn Moon.
    Possible Rapture Day.

    Once the rapture takes place, the Trumpet judgments may be poured out on the New Moon, then full moon and then the Bowl Judgments after the Trumpet Judgments. Day of Atonement (Psalm 118:10-13; Sept 19th, 2018) is for marriage of the Groom and Bride and Armageddon at the end of the Ezekiel 38-39 War which can be a 10 day war. 5 days of grace and then Millennium begins on Feast of Tabernacles (Psalm 118:15) in 5778/5779.
    Psalm 119=Millennium in 5779.
    8 means a new beginning and 9 mean final completion.
    Psalm 120 ff is in past tense.

  15. Adar 11. Day 2 (Monday). Feb. 26. Since 1967 at the age of 8, I have had over 55 fulfilled God dreams. A week prior to Chanukkah, I had 2 dreams back to back. One said 27, Monday, 11 AM Mountain standard time. 11 AM could also be 11 PM. The second dream said Monday and 6 AM/PM.

    Adar 12. Feb 27. Feast in memory of Hollianus and Pipus, two proselytes, who died rather than break the law.
    Possible showing up of Helion, the Hopi Blue Star that travels with the Nibiru system, Hopi Red Star (Red or Brown drawf system). Without the first, the rapture cannot take place. Without the second the trumpet judgments cannot take place.

  16. Adar 1. New Moon. Feb. 15. Mercury, Sun, Venus, and Uranus in Pisces. Partial Solar Eclipse.
    Eze_32:1 And it came to pass in the twelfth year, in the twelfth month, in the first day of the month, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
    Prophecy Against Gog

    588/587/586 Sabbath Year (Shemitah) BC Siege of Jerusalem Begins 2 Kings 25; Jeremiah’s Conflicts Jeremiah 21 – 33; Jeremiah Prophesies Judgment on Judah Jeremiah 34 – 45; Siege of Jerusalem Begins Ezekiel 24 January 15th.
    587 BC God’s Vengeance on Ammon and Edom Ezekiel 25
    587/586 BCE 9/10th of Av Judah was defeated by the Babylonian Empire. First Temple was destroyed
    586 BC The Fall of Jerusalem 2 Kings 25, Jeremiah 52; Psalms of Desolation (Jer. 52) Psalms 74, 79; Jeremiah Prophesies against Babylon Jeremiah 50, 51; Jeremiah’s Lamentations Lamentations 1 – 5; Ezekiel Pronounces Judgment on Tyre Ezekiel 26 – 28; Ezekiel Prophesies against Egypt Ezekiel 29 – 32; Ezekiel the Watchman Ezekiel 33
    585 Ezekiel Explains Jerusalem’s Fall Ezek. 33:21; Ezekiel Foresees Reproof and Restoration Ezek 34 – 36; Ezekiel Sees Resurrection of Dry Bones Ezek 37;
    Ezekiel Sees Future battle Ezek 38; Ezekiel Sees God’s judgment upon Gog Ezek 39
    583 BCE +2550=1967 CE. 1967+50 year = 2017/5777 (Psalm 117―Rapture).

    Possible Rapture Day.

  17. Psalm 107 began the 10 year tribulation and we are now into 2018 so 2018-6 years = 2012 or Psalm 112. The year 5777 is the harvest year which is Psalm 117 so -6= Psalm 111.
    In Shevat, we learned that in a year of Jubilee that the rapture can take place on a New Moon, Full Moon, or Solemn Feast Day (Psalms 81:3; Prov 7:20; Matt 24:31).
    The Biblical Year runs from Nisan 1 to Nisan 1 so the year of 5777 (Psalms 117-Rapture Chapter) is in play until March 17.

      • Psalms is 19 books from Genesis and 47 books from Revelation (Hint: 1947 CE) Psalms 1= year 1901.
        Eschatological Psalms are: 1=1901,2, 7-10, 17-18 (1917-1918 (Israel)), 22-24, 27, 30, 40, 45-48 (1945-1948 (Israel)), 52 (Israel greening up), 67 (1967-6th Day War in Israel), 72, 76, 81, 82, 83, 96-98, 100, 102, 107 (10 year Tribulation began; Rev 2:10), 108, 109 (2009―The Antichrist (Obama)),110-116(2010-2016), 117-118 (2017-2018/5777-5778/rapture/2nd Coming), 119 (Feast of Tabernacles/Messianic Kingdom/Millennium; 5778/5779).

      • Tribulation
        1947 (Psalms 47)+62 Pentecosts/years = 2009 (Psalms 109). Who was President of the USA at this time. He is known as Lucifer, The Antichrist in Steward C. Best 99 reasons why America is Babylon the Great. 2009+1260 days = 2013 (Psalms 113) with March 20-23 trip to Israel where he did 7 events the Messiah would do. +1290 days = 2016 (Psalms 116) from September to December. The Great tribulation begins for Israel in 2014 (Psalm 114) to 2015 (Psalms 115) time frame. But the rapture, Armageddon, and the Millennium is in the last year (Psalms 118:5, 10-13, 15). It can occur 5.5 months from Shemini Atzeret (Nov 2–The Day the Flood bega) which is May 21 (May 20th was the Rabbinic Shavuot with signs in the Sun, Moon, and Stars and on earth.

        Astronomy Highlights for 2014, 2017, and 2018

        Starting list from John Ashraft, Albuquerque, NM, on Facebook.

        Some of my articles begins with a comment such as this and is added onto as a new comment onto my face book page:

        So now until the end of May 29, I will be adding to this article and to the King and Queen article

        2014 Rabbinic Pentecost Cross in the sun, asteroid passed by, one world religion signed in. 6 signs in 2014 in the Heavens.

        2017 7th Day of Av White cloud cross with the moon (bride) at the center near midnight. 20 to 40 signs in the Heavens in 2017

        2018 Abib New Moon (April 16) Cross in the Sun

        April 25th Cross in the Sun on Wednesday

        Nail in the Sky on Rosh Chodesh Sivan

        Shavuot Pentecost. Rabbinic. Angel with wings in the Sun, Asteroid passed by. Obama (The Antichrist) goes after Trump’s Jesus. Major persecution for the USA now in effect from the Antichrist until Oct 20th, 2018. Babylon the Great (USA in Revelation 16).

        Article at Blog to Bill Salus When is the Rapture.

        King Jupiter and Queen (Moon-earth as the bride). May 27-29. Heavenly signs on 27, 28?, 29?

        Dream prior to Chanukkah said 27, monday, 11 AM Mountain Standard Time in the USA. Dream 2 said Monday 6 PM. Can be Am or pm an any timezone on the rapture day of the full moon (Psalms 81:3; Prov 7:20).

        Rapture can still be on a New Moon or on a solemn feast day according to Matt 24:31=Lk 24:44= Psalms 118:5= Psalms 81:3.

        Signs in the Heavens: 2010-1, 2011-1, 2012-1, 2013-2, 2014-6, 2015-9, 2016-20, 2017 20-40, 2018-10 maybe to 20. 2019-ZERO, 2021-3039-ZERO, 2040-1 in the month of September to October in Virgo/Leo with all the planets in Virgo according to Stellarium (free astronomy software).

        First star to come out at the end of the 27th day of May was Jupiter in Libra near (Yud-smallest letter of the Hebrew Alphabet) the Moon in Libra. Jupiter entered the Holy Altar of Libra 133 days after the August 21 Solar Eclipse which ended on Elul 1 (Sign of Jonah; Jesus Baptism; Golden Calf and Moses) on December 24, 2017 ( one year after King Lucifer Obama (the Antichrist -Psalms 109) signed the restitution for division of Jerusalem on Haggai 2, 9th month and 24th day in 2016 which was 7 years from Covenant of Many ( Norwegian Peace Medallion) on the 9th month and 24th day in 2009 and the proclamation was on the 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles in 2009. So Dec 24, 2017 to October 10 (exit of the Holy Altar) is on the Biblical Day of Trumpet, Second Advent. Jupiter the King planet is in the Holy Altar of Libra for 9 months and 16 to 18 days which is a healthy birth pregnancy.

        Jupiter leaves the Holy Altar on the North side during its retrograde from May 29 (full moon; Rapture day?) to August 24 during the Trumpet Judgments of Revelation. On the 25th (Sabbath), it comes back into the Holy Altar during the Bowl Judgments of Revelation and exits the Holy Altar on the 10th of October which is the Biblical Day of Trumpet/Second Advent.

  18. I believe it is very possible to see the “confirmation of the covenant” in 2018.
    In 1917 was the signing of the Balfour Declaration.
    50 years later in 1967 – was the Six-Day War.
    50 years later in 2017 – Jerusalem was declared the capital of Israel. (I kept waiting for some significant event to happen! And there it was! Amen!)
    Since 1917 – every 50 years a significant event has occurred concerning Israel’s land. Every 50 years in the Bible is a Jubilee and land is supposed to be returned to the original owner or his descendants.
    And yes, 2018 is a very important anniversary as well – 70 years since 1948. I believe it is very possible to see the “confirmation of the covenant”. Peace talks are in the news everyday. It is all very interesting.
    So – the beginning of the 70th week (7 years) should be peaceful – for 3.5 years until the agreement is broken. Time will tell ….but that is what I keep thinking.
    I believe that according to all the above mentioned verses …. that “JESUS WILL COME AFTER the TRIBULATION of THOSE DAYS” And His angels will gather the elect … according to Matthew 24.

    • And as others are saying – when the confirmation is broken after 3.5 years we will see the anti-Christ sit in the temple and claim to be God according to 2 Thessalonians 2. Jesus tells us too, in Matthew 24, that when we see what Daniel spoke of – then those who are in Judea will have to run. It is assumed that much of Judea will be a part of the land peace agreement (“confirmation of the covenant”) between Israel and Palestine – as it is always disputed land (in the news). And – the temple Mt will probably be shared too – so the Jews can build their third temple – thus the anti-Christ will have a temple to sit in. But according to Revelation the outer courts of the temple will be given to the nations. So – that makes it sound like a shared temple Mt.

    • Yeah, there is. See below. When your beliefs clash with God’s Word, God wins.

      1 Thess. 4:16-17 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

      Notice where the meeting occurs. Those who are alive and remain are caught up in the air to meet the Lord. That is the definition of the word “rapture.”

    • THIS is the rapture. 1 Thess. 4:16-17 ” For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

      It is beneficial when making fun of someone’s belief to make sure you have done your due diligence in studying to see if they have a reason for the belief, otherwise you just make yourself look ignorant. The only meaning the word “rapture” has, is to be an Anglicized version (via the Latin version) of the word “harpazo,” the Greek word for being “caught up”. That is all the rapture means, to be caught up to meet Christ in the air. Anything beyond that in the way of timing has nothing to do with the truth of the event of the rapture itself. It is a fact unless you want to argue with God about what He said in His Word.

    • Another truly intelligent assertion.

      Where is your evidence that there will be no rapture (harpazo)? (Since it has not yet happened, it the present tense as a verb should not be used.)

  19. When the rapture doesn’t occur in 2018 then someone will find a reason it has to happen in 2019, and then 2020, then 2021, etc. They just won’t stop. If they would read Scripture, it might cut out a lot of this speculation that is so in error.

        • Matthiew 24:36 says date no man know the “DAY” and the “HOUR”, but it doesn’t say “YEAR”.

          Date-setting is definitly wrong, but there is nothing wrong with trying to guess the approximate year. Isn’t that what people calls “the blessed hope”?

          “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”
          (Mat 24:36)

          • You are very much right when you say the scripture didn’t say “year”. It also didn’t say “month” or “week”. Most people use this scripture to put people of from studying the scriptures deeply to find out what God is telling us. If this scripture meant for us not to know when Jesus was coming back why didn’t Jesus rebuke his disciples when they asked him what would be the signs of his coming and of the end of the world. Jesus told them everything of what to look for before he returned including the Great Tribulation as Matt 24 clearly states along with other scriptures. So for anyone that think you can’t know the period of his return they have deceived themselves and following after satan’s illusions.

          • In Matthew 24 – before his crucifixion and resurrection – Jesus said that no man knows the day and the hour. But after his resurrection, when the apostles asked again Jesus about the restoration of the kingdom of Israel, this time Jesus instead of saying that nobody knows the day and the hour, he refused to answer the question and said unto them: ” It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power”:

            Acts 1:6-7 :
            “When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.”

            In Revelation 5:5-6 we read that “…the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. …”

            If at that time Jesus said that there still are 2000 years to wait until He comes back, then the church would have failed in hibernation. Instead, Jesus rather said things like (speaking of John in John 21:22) : “…If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?…” Then the Apostles believed that Jesus would return in their time, but that’s not what Jesus meant:

            “Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?” (John 21:23)

            The true meaning of that verse is that what John the apostle represents – the kind of church that believe in the salvation by faith alone – will not die until Jesus come back.

            It’s one kind of a miracle that since 2000 years ago, Christians from all generations believed that Jesus would come in their time, “He is coming soon”, thus the church continuing to live on that hope.

          • There is this guy on youtube named Steve Fletcher who says adamantly that the rapture is on 8/4/2018. I mean the guy gets really worked up and excited you can hear it in his voice. I just told him I hope he is right I am sooo ready. But aint we not supposed to date set?

          • It’s very unwise to date set. Someone who date sets can quickly destroy their credibility when they’re proven wrong. With that said, I’m as adamant that the Rapture will NOT take place on 8/4/2018 as this guy you reference is adamant that the Rapture will take place on 8/4/2018.

          • It is impossible for the Rapture to take place within the next 3 1/2 years as the first seal of Revelation has not been opened yet by Jesus. You need to read Matt 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 to see Jesus’s reply to the disciples when they asked him about is 2nd coming. Paul also confirms in 2 Thess. that the false messiah or antichrist must arise first and bring in false peace then after 3 1/2 years will reveal who he really is and want the whole world to worship him. He may rise around the years 2021-2023 and no sooner.

          • the great tribulation will be shorter than 3,5years, as Jesus said it will be cut short. That is why the words, no one knows the day and the hour, because it will suddenly be cut short so that at least there will be survivors to repopulate the millennium.

  20. Wayne sorry but you don’t understand the Rapture. The Seals come AFTER the Rapture. This is the doctrine of pre-tribulation. You can disagree with this doctrine, but don’t get the doctrine wrong.

    • Glen, where did you read that Wayne got it wrong about where the Seals come in a pre-trib rapture.? He never mentioned the sixth seal in relation to the rapture in this article. He said the sixth seal signs come before the Lord’s Second Coming, and they do. They also do come before the rapture, but as a pre-tribber you don’t believe that, so it’s a moot point in your case.

      Riddle me this, as the saying goes. If the sixth seal signs are clearly taught in the Old Testament to come BEFORE and HERALD the COMING Day of the Lord or God’s wrath, and Elijah is supposed to come before the Day of the Lord, where is Elijah, and how can there be nothing to occur before the rapture, if the rapture is supposed to kick off the Day of the Lord and Elijah has to be here before then? Not to mention if the rapture initiates the Day of the Lord (they occur simultaneously) and the signs of the sixth seal are taught in the O.T. to PRECEDE the Day of the Lord (and thus precede the rapture), how can the rapture precede the signs that are supposed to precede it? Causes some problems, doesn’t it.

  21. Wayne I believe you are quite correct and it is a little depressing that we are to encounter the date setters yet again. Last year time and again I refuted the claim about the Sept 23rd date and the so called sign in the heavens (Rev 12). I even took a seminar on Sept 23rd and joked with those attending that we might not make 4.30pm. I did add that I expected to be eating breakfast on Sunday morning as would all believers…..who liked to take breakfast. Now again we are required to do the same thing. I agree entirely with your reasoning and would add that the word used and translated as ‘generation’ can also mean ‘people group’ as opposed to a period of years however it would fit well also with your biblically sound assertion, that it is simply relating to the fact all those who witnessed all these signs would be around at his coming. Love your work by the way.

    • The generation that see’s Jerusalem back in the hands of Israel, is the generation that will not pass, and the generation that will be Raptured.

      From Abraham to David 14 generations
      David to Babylon 14 generations
      Babylon to Jesus 14 generations
      42 generations

      2,160 years / 42 = 51.4 yrs

      LUKE
      77 generations are mentioned from Adam to Jesus. 4,000 years / 77 = 51.9 yrs

      From Abraham to David is 14 generations. From David to Babylon is 14 generations. And from Babylon to Jesus is 14 generations. That adds up to 42 generations. Which is 2,160 years. 2160/14=51.4 years. 51.4 years is a generation. OR we could go with Luke…77 generations are mentioned in a period of 4,000 years from Adam to Jesus. 4,000/77= 51.9 years. So basically a generation is 52 years. Now the countdown doesn’t start when Israel become a nation, it starts when Jerusalem is back in the hands of Israel which was June 10, 1967. 1967.5+51.6= 2019.1

  22. Can someone tell me if 3.5 years and 7 years is a period that had been cut short according to Jesus Christ in order that some of the elect will still be alive to be raptured at the end of the great tribulation?

    Jeremiah does not clearly specified that the time of Jacob’s trouble is 7 years.

    I believe that the last 3.5 years will happen at the end of the millennium.

    if we consider the context of Daniel 9;24, it will be at the end of the millennium that Israel’s and Jerusalem’s sins, iniquity, and transgression will be put to end; and EVERLASTING righteousness will be brought in; and the Most Holy, Jesus Christ will b anointed as king of kings and Lord of lords, after He destroy all His enemies, even death and hades; and all authorities, dominions, and power will be subjected under Him.

    the remnant Israel and survived nations will lived on through the millennium as prophesied in the Old and New Testament, where the Law and Sacrifices will be reinstituted by Christ through the royal priesthood.

    A rebellion (sin, iniquity, transgression, and accdg to Isaiah there will be death for a 100 years of age because of sins still being committed) will still happen at the end of the milennium caused by satan. So I guess sin and rebellion still persist during that time, there goes the context of Daniel 9:24.

    • I think before Jesus Christ return, fist the magog war Will happen in 2018_2021 Ezekiel 38: 1-3 ,after that is 7 years of end time (2021-2028)

        • I have been studying prophecy since 1973, and things have changed and heated up so radically I will be very surprised if I die before the Rapture. For example, I was traumatized by the Cuban Missile Crisis, but back then, most people still went to church or to the synagogue. Most people did not swear, or think sex outside of marriage or nudity on TV and in movies was a good thing, or that abortion was okay. Most people were decent and worked hard, appreciative of what they had.

          I am not saying things were perfect, but things were different. Life was generally cleaner, more moral. Now I feel like life is often a moral cesspit. I have known so many clergy that were somewhere between ineffectual and downright deceivers, and so unlike Christ that they can make secular people seem quite righteous by comparison. And the Church turns a blind eye to the whistle-blowers. Adulters who are allowed to run churches, sexual abusers, and outright liars, let alone the power politics and hypocrisy with a lot of clergy. If you ask me, based on my long experience, they outnumber the saints.

        • The generation that see’s Jerusalem back in the hands of Israel, is the generation that will not pass, and the generation that will be Raptured.

          From Abraham to David 14 generations
          David to Babylon 14 generations
          Babylon to Jesus 14 generations
          42 generations

          2,160 years / 42 = 51.4 yrs

          LUKE
          77 generations are mentioned from Adam to Jesus. 4,000 years / 77 = 51.9 yrs

          From Abraham to David is 14 generations. From David to Babylon is 14 generations. And from Babylon to Jesus is 14 generations. That adds up to 42 generations. Which is 2,160 years. 2160/14=51.4 years. 51.4 years is a generation. OR we could go with Luke…77 generations are mentioned in a period of 4,000 years from Adam to Jesus. 4,000/77= 51.9 years. So basically a generation is 52 years. Now the countdown doesn’t start when Israel become a nation, it starts when Jerusalem is back in the hands of Israel, which was June 10, 1967. 1967.5+51.6= 2019.1. So the Rapture could take place any day now.

          • Having originally grown up as a pre-trib person, my understanding is that it is believed that the rapture kicks off the Day of the Lord. I believe all rapture scenarios agree on this point. So, that said, let me ask you this. Have you seen Elijah, or his partner? Have you heard of a couple of men clothed in sackcloth in Jerusalem prophesying and witnessing and warning people of God’s wrath to come? Scripture clearly teaches that Elijah has to come BEFORE the Day of the Lord. which means BEFORE the rapture. So where is he?

            And what about the signs in the sky? Oh, I know there has been a tetrad, and a solar eclipse of the sun across America, but that is not what God says will come BEFORE the Day of the Lord. He says in several places in the O.T. as well as the gospels, Acts, and Revelation, that the following events will happen simultaneously: the sun will go dark, the moon will go dark/turn to blood, the stars (meteors) will fall, the sky will be rolled up like a scroll, there will be an earthquake that is so devastating that the “earth shall remove out of her place” or change her orbit, and that men will run to the caves and hide in fear declaring that the Day of the Lord has come. Now while the tetrads and eclipse were interesting, they hardly fulfilled the prophecy God has given us. Nobody was hiding in caves in fear from these eclipses. We are still in the same orbit, etc., etc. But yet, God tells us over and over that these things must happen as the signs heralding or announcing the coming Day of the Lord. We are told that they must happen BEFORE the Day of the Lord can come, which means they must happen BEFORE the rapture, according to a number of Scriptures.

            Added to that, is the fact that Christ’s Second Coming is prophesied by the fall feasts that God gave, just as His First Coming was prophesied by the spring feasts. As He fulfilled the spring feasts, so will He fulfill the fall feasts, which means His coming will be at the time of the fall feasts, not “any day.” I read a quote recently. When you find that your favorite and strongly held views clash with the Word of God, do not start to debate it. If you do a sense of self-rightness will emerge. Like it or not, God’s Word tells us that we are still looking for some things to happen before the rapture. It isn’t imminent.

      • The “church” will be Raptured before any wars take place that are part of the Bible because of Revelation. He will keep us FROM the hour of testing, not leave us during the testing. Revelation 3:10 “Because you have obeyed my command to persevere, I will protect you from the great time of testing that will come upon the whole world to test those who belong to this world.

        • Revelation 3:10: “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”

          The Greek word for “keep” in Revelation is “tēreō, which means “to guard (from loss or injury, prop. [properly], by keeping the eye upon…)”. The word does not imply removal from the event, but protection in midst of the event.

  23. Hi my name is Timothy Ethridge and I truly believe that 2018 is the right time for things to truly fall into place for the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST yeshua hamaschia Yahweh to truly return because that’s exactly what I get from the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY himself and not by man kind or woman kind but only by the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY himself and him Alone and the rapture of the church can truly happen at any given moment in time trust me and you must be truly watchful and watch the year of 2018 very much closely honest to GOD ALMIGHTY’S

    • I am going to make an assumption, since you did not specify, that this message that you got from the Lord that He is returning in 2018 came not via studying God’s Word, but from some internal revelation? I cannot even count the number of people who have posted on Youtube that they have gotten revelations from the Lord that He is returning on a certain date or time, and to date, not a one of them came true. So who was telling them this? Not God. You would do far better to study God’s Word, which you KNOW is God’s direct word, and not accept some deception by Satan, to determine when we can expect the Lord to return. Much needs to happen before He comes back, according to His Word. Much more than will happen in the next year.

      • I totally agree with you Connie. I stopped reading because I didn’t see anything about the antichrist, Temple being totally built and others..GOD BLESS ALL HE CREATED ACCORDING OF HIS WILL!

      • Psalms is 19 books from Genesis and 47 books from Revelation (Hint: 1947 CE) Psalms 1= year 1901.
        Book I includes Psalm 1-41; Book II, Psalm 42-72; Book III, Psalm 73-89; Book IV, Psalm 90-106; Book V, Psalm 107-150.
        Eschatological Psalms are: 1=1901,2, 7-10, 17-18 (1917-1918 (Israel)), 22-24, 27, 30, 40, 45-48 (1945-1948 (Israel)), 52 (Israel greening up), 67 (1967-6th Day War in Israel), 72, 76, 82, 83, 96-98, 100, 102, 107, 108, 109 (2009―The Antichrist (Obama)), 117-118 (2017-2018/5777-5778/rapture/2nd Coming), 119 (Feast of Tabernacles/Messianic Kingdom/Millennium).

  24. Know that what will happen in days to come is our punishment from GOD AND ALL SINS OF MANKIND LIES BETRAYAL IN FAMILIES THE DEMONS WILL NOT REST THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO REPENT. THE DEVIL DOES NOT WANT YOU TO FORGIVE, PRIDE IS VERY EVIL AS DISOBEDIENCE TO THE LAWS OF GOD ,PUNISHMENT, CHASTISEMENT IS ARRIVING SOON ARROGANCE OF MAN IS UGLY WAR IS UGLY SIN IS UGLY SATAN IS UGLY HELL IS WERE YOU GO FOR NOT BELIEVING IN GOD 100TH YEAR OF COMMUNISM AND THAT ERRORS HAVE GONE OUT INTO MANY COUNTRIES

    • We the Church are not under God’s wrath Jesus took are punishment on the Cross the Great tribulation is for the 7ngodly and the disobedient Jesus will Rapture his Church before that dreadful day of Judg3ment.

      • I agree that Christians are not appointed to God’s wrath, but the question is, when does that wrath occur? Where in the Bible does it ever equate tribulation with wrath? I can’t seem to find that anywhere in the Bible, can you? In my studies, I have found that tribulation in the N.T. is “thlipsis,” the suffering of God’s people on His behalf, and we are told over and over through a multitude of Scriptures to expect to suffer it. 1 Peter 4 “Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy…… For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?” What is that passage telling us? That judgement starts with us before it begins with the rest of the world, that it will be a fiery trial for us, that we will partake of Christ’s sufferings (which were intense), that even the righteous will scarcely be saved, and that when Christ returns (2nd Coming) we will be exceedingly glad to see Him. At least those who are still alive and remain.

        God’s wrath, “orge” or “thumos,” on the other hand is God’s vengeance against and punishment of unrepentant sinners. Jesus says there will be great tribulation, “thlipsis”, not wrath, at that time, and He designates it as only beginning at the abomination of desolation. (God nowhere calls the seven years the “tribulation.” That is a name man has given it.) He also says it is cut short of that time period mentioned in Daniel and followed by some specific heavenly signs. These very particular signs are laid out multiple times in the O.T. as being the signs that are seen BEFORE the Day of the Lord, which is otherwise known as God’s wrath. His wrath comes after the great tribulation is cut short, sometime AFTER the Day of the Lord signs, which are presented in the Olivet Discourse, as well as in the sixth seal of Rev.

        Revelation 12 tells us that when Satan is cast out, at the mid-point of the seven years, it is Satan’s wrath that is aimed at and poured out on Israel and Christians – hence “great tribulation” – suffering for God. Satan’s wrath has always meant tribulation for God’s people, which is why the people who take the mark are fine during this time. They are not suffering, but are going on with life as usual buying and selling, and thumbing their noses at God while Christians are dying by the millions. How could that be God’s wrath? In fact the fifth seal martyrs (who are the only people suffering under this particular seal and God’s people are not subject to God’s wrath, so this can’t be His wrath) ask God why He is not yet avenging them or punishing those who killed them. They want to know how long they have to wait for it to begin. He tells them that they have to wait UNTIL the rest of the martyrs that have to die first, die. “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How LONG, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou NOT JUDGE and AVENGE our blood on them that dwell on the earth?…….it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, UNTIL their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.” Clearly God’s wrath has not yet begun at the fifth seal by both the testimony of the martyrs and God’s decree.

        I recently saw this quote “When you find that one of your favorite and strongly held views clashes with the Word of God, do not start to debate it.” I think that quote should be followed with, “Study to find the truth.”

        • There is man’s wrath, and God’s wrath. He is saving us from HIS wrath, not man’s. So yes, definitely some will suffer, some more than others. In North America, I have seen Christians fired and dissed for the past 25 years, and that is a valid type of persecution in countries that were blessed by God.

        • Rev 6:12-17 prior to the Trumpet Judgments is the wrath of God and it refers to an axial poleshit when 300-400 million people vanish. The other place is in Rev 16 with the Bowl Judgments.
          Revelation has 3 timeframes based on Day of Trumpet to Day of Atonement. Rev 2:10 has 10 days of tribulation (Days of Awe) which can be 10 years of Tribulation from 2007 (Psalm 107) to 2017 (Psalms 117–rapture chapter in the year of 5777 from Nisan 1, March-April 2017 to Nisan 1 (March 17, 2018). Then 1 year from Day of Trumpet (Sept 20th, 2017 Rabbinic Day of TRumpet with time signatures lining up around the globe and Biblical Day of Trumpet (Sept 23rd, 2017 Rev 12:1 Sign on the Sabbath of Days of Awe) which covers the Day of the LOrd to the end of the Millennium (3017-3020). 120th Jubilee began on the Day of Atonement and this is the final Jubilee in which all of humanity dies. The we have 15 days in Psalms 118. Day of Trumpet Earthquake (Sept 9th, 2018; Day of Atonement (Psalm 118:10-13 with the Ezekiel 38-39 War which can be a 10 day war), and then Feast of Tabernacles (Psalm 118:15). Psalm 118 is Second Coming. Psalm 117 is Rapture and Psalm 119 is the Millennium.

  25. Very well written. I put no stock in date setters or teachings like the Blood Moon Prophecy or The Harbinger/Shemitah stuff. Look at the track record of date setters. 2000 nothing happened. 2011 nothing happened. 2012 nothing happened. 2015 I’m not holding my breath since I view it as another 2012. Now could something significant happen like another war or financial crisis in the U.S.? Sure. But I’m seeing people convinced from The Shemitah and Blood Moon teaching it will be the rise of the antichrist- even though neither book teaches that. What people don’t realize is when they set dates, they are putting their integrity on the line. Could it happen in our lifetimes? Yes. Could it not happen in our lifetimes. I see the state of the world then I read Revelations. I have to say, this world is still like Disneyworld compared to how bad it will be when those times come to pass. Jonathan Cahn and John Hagees one saving grace is they don’t set a date. Could it be that Christ is waiting for the church to stop being so divided?

      • So why do you think that you know what the world will be like at the start of the seventieth week of Daniel?

        Matthew 24:44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

        Of course I know that you are dismissive of the pre tribulation rapture, so have dismissed the idea that the rapture could happen at the start of the seventieth week of Daniel, but that doesn’t mean you are right.

        In any event, my policy is to wait and see. May 2018 is just around the corner, so if things still seem to be relatively calm at that point, I won’t be ruling anything out. “When they say “peace and safety”, then sudden destruction.”

        • I try to base my views on what I believe scriptural evidence indicates and not on what is popular nor on what I prefer to believe to be true. I do not claim to be a prophet nor do I claim to know everything. You are welcome to disagree with what I have written. People have hyped events for years and have criticized me for not believing something will happen by Day X.

    • Date Setting in the Bible.
      1) Aleph-Tav in Genesis 1:1 and Lamid Aleph-Tav in Genesis 1:1 ((4000 year and 6000 year)
      2) 4th day events ==Genesis 1:14
      3) Sabbaths (Gen 1:14; Leviticus 23)
      4) Years (Genesis 1:14; Leviticus 25–Shemitah and Jubilee years especially Lev 25:20-23)
      5) Isaiah 61:1-2 = Leviticus 25
      6) Zeph 1:14-16 Day of the Lord is a Day of Trumpet and Alarm
      7) Psalms 1=1901. Psalms 17=1917; Psalms 47=1947; Psalms 48=1948; Psalms 67=1967; Psalms 114-118=2014-2018.
      8) Deut 24:5–1 year and Last year
      9) John 6:40, 44, 54 1 year and last year
      10) Daniel’s timeline 1260 days, 1290 days, 1335 days, 2300 days.
      11) The Day the Flood began (2nd month and 17th day–November)
      12) Revelation 2:10 10 days of Tribulation =Ten years of tribulation
      13) Haggai 2 (9th Month and 24th Day) Chanukkah Eve (December 24th, 2016.)
      14) Psalm 90:4; II Peter 3:8–A Day = 1000 years as 1000 years = a day.
      15) Genesis 6:3 And man shall live 120 years/Jubilees (2017; Psalm 117). Every 20 Jubilees = 1000 years. 120 Jubilees = 6000 years. Adam to Exodus 50 Jubilees; Exodus to 2017 = 70 Jubilees. 50+70=120 Jubilees.
      16) According to Isaiah, the Day of the Lord is a one year event and covers both the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments of Revelation– 3 places where a day = a year (Isaiah 34:8; Isaiah 61:2; Isaiah 63:4). It is the year of the “Lord’s vengeance” or God’s wrath (Revelation 6:17).
      17) Numbers 14:34 where a day = a year
      18) Ezekiel 4:6 where a day = a year.
      19) Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, … but of that Day and Hour no man knoweth not even the angels in Heaven. Day and hour refers to Leviticus 23 (Passover, Pentecost, Day of Trumpet, Day of Atonement)
      20) I Thess 5:1 Seasons= Leviticus 25/23= Gen 1:14
      21) 38 years (Deut 2:14)
      22) 40 years/Jubilles (Psalm 95:10)
      23) 50 years/Jubilles Matthew 1:17 may indicate around 50 years. Leviticus 25:9-10 has Jubilee year which is every 50 years.
      24) 70 years (Psalms 90:10)/Jubilles
      25) 80 years (Psalms 90:10)
      26) 100 years (Genesis 15:13, coupled with Gen. 15:16)
      27) 3 days of darkness–History repeats itself.
      28) 7th Trumpet Judgment (Rev 11:15)
      29) Reve 12:1 Day of Trumpet in the Jubilee year
      30) New Moon (first sliver of the new moon)
      31) 11th month 24th day (Zech 1)
      32) Elul 1 is 40 days from Day of Atonement and Elul 1 is also 40 days till Ninevah is destroyed.
      33) Day of Trumpet to Day of Atonement can occur over a 10 year time frame, 1 year time frame, and 10 days time frame
      34) At midnight the angel of death came in Exodus 12. At midnight the groom comes for the bride in Matt 25:1-14 with shouting, Trumpets, and a musical parade. Darkness to Light is the theme here. The Sun goes down at Noon.
      35) Amo_8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at Noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:
      36) little moment, little while, little sleep, shortened time
      37) Pass over (Spring Equinox, Fall Equinox)=Spring Events of Leviticus 23 and Fall events of Leviticus 23. Idea came from pass over of the Jordan River. (Psalms 114)
      38) latter day, last day (Jn 6:40, 44, 54), that day, Wrath of God, Fire of God (Day of the Lord). According to Isaiah, the Day of the Lord is a one year event and covers the Trumpet Judgments for the first 5 months and then the Bowl Judgments for the last 7 months and is tied to Psalm 118=2018 as the year. Also tied to this verse is Deut 24:5. The Day of the Lord begins on the Day of Trumpet with the rapture/gathering/resurrection and ends on the Day of Atonement with Armageddon. This is known as the Days of Awe.
      39) Exod 6:6-8-15:19 One year event.
      40) Isaiah 54 One year event.
      41) Noah’s Flood One year event.
      42) Psalms 18=1918 and Battle of Haifa with 2 other battles = Battle of Megiddo during WWI+100 years = Battle of Armageddon (WWIII) in Psalms 118:10. Sept 19-25, 1918 = Sept 19, 2018. Lev 25:9-10 times 2 =100 years or 2 Jubilees. 100 years (Genesis 15:13, coupled with Gen. 15:16).
      43) Mat_16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. See is the Date setting word. The day is the Day of Trumpet in 2018 (Psalms 118:5).
      44) See in Matt 16:28 refers to when man is awake around the entire globe. That is 8 AM/PM +/- 3 hours.
      45) Psalms 81:3 and Proverbs 7:20 has New Moon, full moon (appointed day or time) and Psalms 81:3 also has Solemn Feast Days (Leviticus 23) where the shophar is SOUNDED (Matt 24:31―At the SOUND of the Trumpet).
      Other Verses pointing to the date. Psalm 83; Ezekiel 38- 39; Luke 17:33-37; Rev 19:17; Rev 20: 4, 7,8-15; Rev 21:1.

  26. Maybe somewhat off the point (but ultimately very relevant), could someone please explain the following. Daniel’s 70th week is still future. It is the final 7 years of a prophecy relating to Israel who, collectively, rejected the Messiah (I love Israel). It is therefore a period under law, not grace. Why then does virtually everyone lump all of the ‘last days’ events into this final 7 years when two covenants are being brought to their conclusion in very close proximity to each other. Covenants are legal. That’s why our heavenly Father has kept them separate for 2000 years. You cannot end a legal covenant of grace under a legal covenant of law. So what is the SCRIPTURAL reason for putting everything (including events relating to the age of grace) into the final seven years of law, when it seems very clear that in both the gospels and and Revelation (and elsewhere) they are always kept separate? Thanks for your help i8n this matter. Tony H

    • Tony H.,

      The Law, the Feasts, and the Sacrifices will be re-instituted in the Millennium by Jesus Christ through His Royal Priesthood, the judges. God’s Covenant of Law with Israel will be fulfilled in the Millennium as prophesied in the Old Testament. The last half of the week (check the context of Daniel 9 and his prayer, in verse 24 to know the entire covered period) will be at the end of the millennium. There will still be transgression that Israel and Jerusalem will commit, in fact it will be a rebellion, that will happen at the end of the millennium. EVERLASTING righteousness will only be brought in from that time on at the end of the age and on through eternity.

    • The Law, the Feasts, and the Sacrifices will be re-instituted in the Millennium by Jesus Christ through His Royal Priesthood, the judges. God’s Covenant of Law with Israel will be fulfilled in the Millennium as prophesied in the Old Testament. The last half of the week (check the context of Daniel 9 and his prayer, in verse 24 to know the entire covered period) will be at the end of the millennium. There will still be transgression that Israel and Jerusalem will commit, in fact it will be a rebellion, that will happen at the end of the millennium. EVERLASTING righteousness will only be brought in from that time on at the end of the age and on through eternity.

      • 70 weeks could be understood as 70 weeks of years to still fit in for the first coming of Christ; another is 70 weeks of jubilees to fit at the end of the millennium. 70 Jubilees is 3,500 years. Count back from the end of the millennium, you will arrived somewhere in 445 to 450 BC which is the time it was decreed that the temple will be rebuilt. What do you think?

    • 1947+62 Weeks/Pentecosts = 2009. Who was President in USA in 2009. He is also known as the Antichrist of Babylon.
      1948+62 Weeks/Pentecost =2010 when signs in the Sun, Moon, and Stars showed up in the 7th Biblical Month on the 7th Day of Feast of Tabernacles.
      The Tribulation began in 2007 (Psalm 107 and ended in 2017 (Psalm 117–Rapture Chapter), Nisan 1, 2017 to Nisan 1, 2018 is 5777 and the rapture can still take place up until March 17. Armageddon is Sept 19, 2018 (Battle of Haifa, WWI, 1918)(Psalm 18)

  27. 2 Thessalonions 2 makes it crystal clear. The rapture cannot occur until the following events happen:

    1. Falling away
    2. Man of Sin revealed, sits in the temple and declares himself God.

    • Assuming the rapture and the beginning of the 7 year trib are simultaneous.
      BTW: Mid trib is when the man of sin stands in the holy place, not the beginning of the trib.

        • This ref. to 2 Thess is exactly why people believe in a rapture at the beginning of the 70th week.
          As Daniel said in 9:26-27, says the ‘prince that shall come….. and shall confirm the covenant with many
          for one week; and in the midst of it he will cause sacrifices to stop and he shall cause an abomination and desolation the temple to occur’.
          This tells me ‘he’ will be revealed to all at that time.

        • Wayne: Deut 24:5= 1 year; Isa 34:8, 61:1-2, 63:4= one year; Psalm 117-118 = 1 year; Jhn 6:39, 40,44,54 where Last Day =last year or one year; Flood = 1 year; Exod Plague 1-10 = 5.5 months +3 months to Pentecost = 8.5 months. Christians teach 7 years of Tribulation but the last 3.5 years comes down to one year. Rev 2:10 has ten days of Tribulation which can be 10 years of Tribulation from Day of Trumpet to Day of Atonement which fits the Feasts of the Lord model.

        • “Therefore, I do not believe the Antichrist will reveal his true identity to the world until the midway point of the seventieth week of Daniel. The implication of this is that Christ may not come until at least after the midway point of the seventieth week of Daniel given that 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 suggests that Christ’s coming will not occur until first the falling away and the unveiling of the man of sin.”

          I fully agree. There are no pretribulation rapture, At a point during the tribulation, the deads in Christ come alive and all the true Christians that are still alive will be CHANGED – not secretly – walking with Jesus (still on Earth) in white garnment, All people will see this happen.

          The Jews that will see it will understand:

          “They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.” Deut 32:21

          “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.” (Rev. 3:9)

          That has not happened yet, and can only happen at the view of the said “rapture”. NOT a secret event, but an event that will be seen and understood, that will make all people furious:

          “And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.” Mat 24:10

          People accusing each other because they will have been left behind. That will be the worst sadness, depression, hate, and all other negative feelings that people will ever experience.

          • The Scriptures say that Christ’s coming will be after the tribulation is over, not during it. In Matt. 24, it says that after the tribulation is cut short, then there will be the celestial events which herald the coming Day of the Lord, then at some point after that, (the trumpet judgments have to fit in the “then” time given in Matt. ) Christ appears at the last trump (Rev. 11, Rev. 14:14) and gathers the elect. And in 2 Thess. 2 it says that the man of sin (antichrist) is destroyed by the brightness of Christ’s coming. As antichrist reigns for 42 months, that puts Christ’s coming at the end of Daniel’s 70th week, just before the vial judgments are poured out. (Rev. 14:14-Rev. 16.)

          • That’s correct. Yet peopole are confused about the timing of the rapture, because people think of the “rapture” as a single event and fail to understand there are more than one event happening during the tribulation”:

            In 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 there is important key word that is overlooked: “CHANGED”:

            1 Cor. 15:51-53
            “Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be CHANGED, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be CHANGED. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. ”

            This word “CHANGED” is ignored by most people. Why? Because they assume that this word has no importance because of course we will be changed before entering in heaven.

            Here is the big mistake. People think that we will vanish from earth and go to heaven, all in a sudden moment and then it’s finished with the “rapture”. But it cannot be this way. We are not cowards that will abandon the left behind people during the most horrible tribulation!

            In 1 Corinthians 15:51-53: THERE ARE NO MENTIONS OF GOING TO HEAVEN HERE, only mention of a CHANGE applied first for the resurrected dead people, then for those that are still alive.

            Why it is written that we will be changed into imperishable immortal body? If we were to directly go to heaven, we all know that we will be changed, no need to write it, so why there is this statement that we have to be CHANGED? Because we have to accomplish something: walking with Jesus on earth after we are changed, and this change into immortal body is necessary for us to be “kept from the hour of temptation” while we will finish our work with Him here on earth, probably as witnesses and comforters to the remaining people during the most distressful time, for them to avoid taking the mark of the beast.

            Rev 3:10 “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”

            Rev 3:4-5 “Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall WALK WITH ME IN WHITE: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same SHALL BE CLOTHED IN WHITE RAIMENT; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.”

            Now these verses make sense: being CHANGED into immortal body wearing WHITE RAIMENT, like Jesus, we will be kept during the tribulation. Note that there is also no mention of going to heaven in these verses, but instead a mention of WALKING with Jesus while being kept during the tribulation.

            Again, why this statement of being kept during the tribulation? If we all suddenly go to heaven for the eternity, we all know that when we are in heaven, there will no more be tribulations that can affect us. So “kept from the tribulation” means what it means: being kept from the tribulation here on earth. No mention of going to heaven here.

            Another verse:

            Ps 91:7, 13-14 “A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee… Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.”

            Again, in this verse, we are protected, here on earth, there are no adder in heaven. So our change into immortal body here on earth is only a first phase of the whole event people call the “rapture”.

            HERE IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THIS GREAT NEVER-ENDING DEBATE ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE RAPTURE: A MAN-MADE ONE TIME EVENT “RAPTURE” THAT WILL NEVER BE FIT IN ALL VERSES OF THE BIBLE, WHATEVER IT’S TIMING.

            When Jesus came the for the first time, He didn’t not come just for 3 days to only be crucified then resurected. He has done so many miracles and other things, so why people are thinking that during the end times, which will be ever a greater, Jesus come only at the last second of the tribulation for just a tenth of a second rapture? That has no senses.

            But a “rapture” divided into sub-events, like: the first the resurrection of the dead in Christ and our change into immortal body with them, then the walking on earth with Jesus, then the depart to heaven for the noces of the Lamb, then the return at the end, will fit all Bible verses…

          • I don’t see it happening that way, as I see a lot of problems with it fitting Scripture, but if you are satisfied, you are free to believe whatever you choose.

          • Nobody including me knows perfectly how it will happen, I am not forcing anything on anybody, and I am ready to share and discuss about this topic, BUT a Pretribulation, a mid-tribulation, or a post-tribulation one for all rapture event all have their respective problems with scripture, hence the endless intense debating about the rapture timing, as a one and only one event cannot fit all Bible verses. If after decades of intense debating people are still not able to sort out which of these “standart” pre-tribulation, mid tribulation, or post tribulation rapture timing is correct, then that means that all these views are (at least partially) false!

            End times prophecy is not an easy subject, but it will still be better if people were more open-minded instead of only defending and forcing their pre-conceived view of their rapture timing with expressions like “I see a lot of problems with it fitting Scripture, but if you are satisfied, you are free to believe whatever you choose”, without even citing one Bible verse…

          • I do not see how I am not being open-minded, just because I see problems with your belief. I didn’t see a need to get into a debate, but if you insist I can supply a couple of reasons and verses. Nor do I see why I am closed-minded to say that you can believe as you like. That would seem to be open-minded. And I’m certainly not forcing my view on you when I say you are welcome to believe as you wish. Why would you say that I am forcing my view on you. I am saying you are free to believe as you like, that I was not even going to try to convince you otherwise. I am merely rejecting it, because due to my decades of study I immediately see problems with it. And for the record, for decades I was very open minded so the Lord could take me through a long process to show me the truth. I started as a pre-trib , having been brought up that way, and the Lord led me through a pre-wrath view to the final understanding I now have, through five decades of intensive study, that it was right where Paul said it was all the time. At the last trumpet. It is so obvious a child could see it. It is where Christ starts to reign, where the dead (once you are resurrected you are no longer dead) are rewarded (the Bema Seat), and the wrath of God (which we are not appointed to) begins. And in Rev. 14:14 we see that just before God’s wrath is poured out in the vial judgements, there is a rapture described.

            Tribulation (thlipsis) and wrath (thumos or orge) are two entirely different things. People have gotten that wrong for years, which is why it has led to wrong conclusions. We are to expect tribulation. The Scriptures tell us that over and over. It is Satan’s and man’s persecution of God’s people. Wrath on the other hand is God’s vengeance on the wicked. We are exempted from God’s wrath. Totally different concepts. The Great Tribulation (and that is the only Scriptural tribulation of this seven year time period, (another error in definitions) is not God’s wrath. It is Satan’s wrath – Rev. 12:12-17. I don’t usually see the need to debate all this anymore, because nobody is interested in hearing anything but their own interpretation. And I’m content after years of trying to debate the issue to just let people believe what they want. After 50 years, I feel that I have studied enough that I am convinced that I finally got it right,so I will look at what someone says, but can immediately see any problems due to my intense familiarity with all the scriptures relating to the subject. Besides, I have realized that nobody is going to believe a woman, and an old one at that.

            If you want Bible verses, then so do I. Where are your verses that say that we are glorified but stay here on earth as witnesses? I don’t find that anywhere. Clearly it says that those who are alive (not glorified) and remain (having survived the tribulation and trumpets) are caught up to be with the Lord, not stay here. And since it is at the end of it all except for God’s wrath, there is no need for them to stay. They go to their eternal home of New Jerusalem to be given their rewards, before returning with Christ on horses at Armageddon to set up the millennium. Remember it is only SOME of the people from ONE out of seven churches that are promised to be kept from the hour of temptation, not all Christians. People make a gross error about that. Those you mentioned who walk in white will walk in white in the millennium in New Jerusalem. Most of these promises to the seven churches are for the post-God’s wrath era, not the tribulation.

            Most of the Church is in great apostasy – 2 Thess. 2:3, Luke 18:8. Only the Smyrnans, besides the Philadelphians have no complaint from Christ, and He still lets them be martyred. The word “keep” in the promise to the Philadelphians, is the same exact Greek word as used in John 17:15 ” I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” It means to guard. We are not changed to be kept from evil, we are simply guarded. Same thing here. Those who qualify, and that will be a small number, are guarded during the tribulation while most of the Christians die- Rev. 7:9. The Thyatirans are told they will be thrown into great tribulation if they don’t repent. Peter tells us in 1 Peter 4:12-13 “Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.” We are not to be surprised that we will be going into a fiery trial. Why not? Because of the apostasy. We need purging, to be made white. Daniel 11:35 “And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to THE TIME OF THE END: because it is yet for a time appointed.” And we are to rejoice to be partakers of Christ’s suffering so that WHEN HIS GLORY SHALL BE REVEALED we can rejoice. When is His glory revealed? At the Second Coming. Getting back to the work “keep”, once a person is glorified, they no longer need guarding, do they, for they cannot die. We do not get raptured and leave people behind, because nobody gets raptured until the last trump at which point Christ will pour out His wrath which Christians are not appointed to. (Rev. chap. 15-16) Most Christians will die in the tribulation as seen in Rev. 7:9-17. It is for the purging. In Acts 2:34-35 God says that Christ is to sit at His right hand until He makes all His foes (including) antichrist His footstool. In Acts. 3:21 It says that heaven will receive or keep Christ there until the restitution of all things. Both of these things come when Christ returns and destroys antichrist (he becomes His footstool) and the restitution of all things occurs (the world becomes Christ’s to reign over again). That means that Christ must remain in heaven at the right hand of God until that time.

            Part of the mystery of God is the gospel, the Church and the rapture. It was not known in the Old Testament and not understood by the disciples until after Christ’s ascension. The mystery of God is not finished until the last trumpet. Rev. 9:7. The fulness of the Gentiles does not come until the end of Daniel’s 70th week and it is at that time that all Israel is saved as they see Him whom they pierced (at His Second Coming). (Compare Romans 11:25-26, Luke 21:20-24, and Rev. 11:1-2; Rev. 1:7, Zech 12:9-11). Thus the time of the great tribulation is really for the Church, the ones who hold to the testimony of Jesus, as the woman (those of Israel who are to be saved) is sent into the wilderness to be protected until the three and a half years are past. (Rev. 12:13-17)

            There is no need to have a long list of events. Everything is explained easily by the church going through the great tribulation, then the resurrection/rapture event at the Second Coming, followed by the Bema Seat Judgment in New Jerusalem while the world endures God’s wrath concluding with the saints accompanying Christ on horses as He destroys the nations one final time at Armageddon.

            But you don’t have to believe what I say, nor do I expect you to. I’m not trying to force my belief on you, I’m just doing as you asked. Providing verses. You have your own belief, and I leave you to it.

          • “If you want Bible verses, then so do I. Where are your verses that say that we are glorified but stay here on earth as witnesses?”

            I am glad you ask this question. Other people have asked me this question, so here is my answer:

            Remember that “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.” (Luke 17:26)

            “And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
            And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
            And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
            And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.” (Genesis 5:21-24)

            Enoch first lived 65 years then begat Methuselat. Then Enoch walked with God AFTER he begat Methuselat 300 years.

            65 + 300 = 365 years

            as it is written in verse 23 that “all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years”

            – Enoch begat Methuselat (on earth, he did not begat in heaven) when 65 years old.

            – If “all the days of Enoch were 365”, 365 years cannot be made with 65 years on earth and 300 years in heaven, for if we went to heaven immediately after he begat Methusalat, there is no way we can count up to 365 years.

            – Only AFTER having walked with God 300 years, that is after all 365 years have past, did Enoch disappear: “…and he was not for God took him”. Before his disappearance (before God took him) he was still visible, so still on earth.

            – Once somebody goes to heaven he goes into eternity and there is nothing left that can be seen and counted.

            – It is also interesting to note that the flood came the exact year Methusalat died…

            Before the flood and before God took Enoch, it is written that Enoch WALKED WITH GOD three hundred years:

            “And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters…”
            “And Enoch WALKED WITH GOD: and he was not; for God took him.” (Gen 5:22,24)

            The same thing happens at the “rapture”:

            “Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall WALK WITH ME in white: for they are worthy.” Rev 3:4

            – There is no change in the environment. if Enoch walked with God on earth, then those walking with Jesus in Rev. 3:4 are also on earth. If we are going to heaven, then it’s a flight, not a walking.

            “But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

            – Same condition (walking with God),
            – Same kind of transportation (walking),
            – Same environment (on earth),
            – Same Guide (with God).

            – I fully agree that tribulation and wrath are two entirely different things. In fact I have followed the same path as your’s when you say: “I started as a pre-trib , having been brought up that way, and the Lord led me through a pre-wrath view to the final understanding”, and I still believe that we are exempted from God’s wrath. Only I am not yet sure of when God’s wrath begin…

          • ” Remember it is only SOME of the people from ONE out of seven churches that are promised to be kept from the hour of temptation, not all Christians.”

            Sorry, I don’t agree with this.

            The letters to the 7 churches in Revelation 2 and 3 have 4 fullfilments:

            – The letter were written to 7 actual churches that existed at that time (but are no more) in the place now known as Turkey,

            – ALL warning and rewards written for the 7 churches are valid for any church at any time,

            – ALL warning and rewards written for the 7 churches are valid for any individual people at any time,

            – For each of the 7 churches in chapters 2 and 3 of Revelation there is a corresponding period of time in the church history, we are now in the Laodicean period.

            How is it possible that God divide the church into 7 groups of people, with a different promise for each group? That’s not possible.

          • As I said earlier, I see problems in your interpretations before, and I see problems with your interpretations now. You want to believe what you want to believe, and you will interpret Scriptures to fit that. I am content to let you do so.

          • “You want to believe what you want to believe, and you will interpret Scriptures to fit that”

            Say it for yourself and shut up, it’s enough!

          • I’m sorry. Had you not gotten a little less than pleasant yourself and insisted that I present Scriptures, I never would have begun this dialogue. I was always content to let you believe what you want to believe. Don’t you want to believe what you believe? It appeared so in your defending your beliefs. And haven’t you presented the scriptures with an interpretation to fit that? I have never heard anyone say that Enoch was changed and then continued to walk on earth for 300 years. That’s a first. The only interpretation I have ever heard was that Enoch walked in righteousness with God, as did Noah and others, and then at the age of 365 he was translated or taken away. That would seem to indicate that you have an interpretation that is yours alone, as it would appear is the idea that glorified Christians will continue to walk the earth during the tribulation. And fortunately your interpretation of Enoch fits very well with what you want the passage in Rev. to say. So are you not interpreting Scripture to fit what you want to believe, since you are the only person I have ever heard of with this interpretation? Am I wrong in that?

            As for my belief, I am finding more people all the time are coming to the same conclusion as I have, from a straightforward reading of Revelation. It is a growing belief.

          • Just FYI, Noah walked with God too while on earth, but he did it in the same body we have. Walking with God does not mean you have a glorified body. My dad also walked with God. He was the most godly man I have ever known. He also was in an unglorified body.

          • “He was the most godly man I have ever known”

            UNLIKE YOU THAT ONLY KNOW TO CRITICIZE AND DENOUNCE OTHER PEOPLE!

          • Well, as you said of me, I am a closed-minded person trying to force my belief on everyone else.

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      Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2 Thess 2:1-3 (KJV)

      The first thing we must pay attention to is the fact that there are two separate subjects being discussed: by the coming and by our gathering together. These two subjects are the purpose for what is to follow, note the words “by”.

      In verse 2 Paul states that they should not be troubled by false information that stated that “the day of Christ” or the first subject “the coming of our Lord” is taking place, or that they are in the tribulation. Next he tells them not to be deceived, for the second coming will not come until something occurs that will allow the man of sin to be revealed. What was that something? The translation reads “a falling away first”. Let’s take a closer look at this phrase.

      We noted that there are two subjects, the coming of our Lord, and our gathering together. It is clear from the above text that the subject of the coming of our Lord is resolved or dealt with. What is missing, however, is a resolution to our gathering together. Where is it dealt with?

      Let’s start by addressing the italicized portion of verse 3, “…that day shall not come,…” E.W. Bullinger on page 52 of his book “Figures of Speech Used in the Bible” calls this a legitimate figure of speech, known as an “Ellipsis”. The purpose of this figure of speech is to grab our attention. We will do just that. “That day”, is the second coming of Christ, as we noted earlier, but Paul states that it cannot come until there is a “man of sin” revealed, and that he can’t be revealed until “a falling away first”. The Greek word “first” is “proton”

      and means “first in time or place in any succession of things”. So we see that the second coming cannot occur until the “man of sin” is revealed. The “man of sin” cannot be revealed until there is “a falling away first”.

      We must take a detailed look at the phrase “a falling away” in order to understand the meaning of what Paul is saying.

      The first thing to address is that the Greek has the definite article. So, at the start, it should read “the falling away”, not “a falling away”. The NKJV gets this correct the falling away comes first 2 Thess 2:3 (NKJV) (emphasis added).

      Next we must take an extensive look at the word used for “falling away”. The Greek word used for “falling away” is “apostasia” (Strong’s number 646) and is a compound of two Greek words “apo” (Strong’s number 575), meaning “from”, and “istemi” (Strong’s number 2476), meaning “stand” and means “away from”; “departure”.. The word is a late form of an earlier root verb; the Greek word “aphistemi”( Strong’s numbers 646 to 647 to 868), and its literal definition is “a standing away from”.

      This definition has some solid support.

      “The verb is used 15 times in the New Testament. Of these 15, only 3 have anything to do with a departure from the faith (Luke 8:13; 1 Tim.4:1; Heb.3:12). The word is used for departing from iniquity (2 Tim.2:19), from ungodly men (1 Tim.6:5), from the temple (Luke 2:27), from the body (2 Cor.12:8), and from persons (Acts 12:10; Luke 4:13). {Gordon R. Lewis, “Biblical Evidence for Pretribulationism” Bibliotheca Sacra (vol.124, #499; July 1968), page 218)}

      “It is with full assurance of proper exegetical study and with complete confidence in the original languages that the word meaning of “apostasia” is defined as departure”. Daniel K.Davey the “Apostesia” of 2 Thess.2:3, Th.M.thesis, Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary, May 1982, page 27.

      “What precisely does Paul mean when he says that ‘the falling away’ (2:3) must come before the tribulation? The definite article ‘the’ denotes that this will be a definite event, and event distinct from the appearance of the Man of Sin. The Greek word for ‘falling away’, taken by itself, does not mean religious apostasy or defection. Neither does the word mean ‘to fall’ as the Greeks have another word for that.[pipto, ‘I fall’; TDI]. The best translation of the word is ‘to depart’. The apostle Paul refers here to a definite event which will occur just before the start of the tribulation. This is the rapture of the church.” -Paul Lee Tan

      “The Greek word ‘apostasia’ means departure, withdrawal or separation. (and) is best translated, and has its meaning, ‘depart’, ‘departure’, ‘departing’. This ‘departing’ is in a literal physical sense…I am satisfied that ‘a falling away’ is at best, an unfaithful translation.” –Professor J.S. Malan

      Kenneth Wuest, a highly educated and respected Greek scholar, in his “The New Testament-An Expanded Translation”, translated 2 Thess. 2:3 this way: “Do not allow anyone to lead you astray in any way, because that day shall not come except the aforementioned departure (of the church to heaven) come first and the man of lawlessness is disclosed (in his true identity), the man of perdition…”

      It should also be noted that the first seven English translations of “apostasia” all rendered the word as either

      “departure” or “departing”. They are as follows: Wycliff Bible (1384); Tyndale Bible (1526); Coverdale Bible (1583); Cranmer Bible (1539); Breeches Bible (1576); Beza Bible (1583); Geneva Bible (1608). Jerome’s Latin Vulgate from around 400 A.D., renders “apostasia” with the Latin word “discessio”, meaning “departure”.

      E. Schulyer English asks the question: “Again, how would the Thessalonians—or Chirstians in any century since—be qualified to recognize the apostasy when it should come, assuming, simply for the sake of inquiry, that the church might be on earth when it does come? There has been apostasy from God, rebellion against Him, since time began.”

      So we see that the Day of the Lord cannot come until the man of sin is revealed. The man of sin cannot be revealed until “the departure” of the church. This resolves the problem of two separate subjects being discussed: by the coming and by our gathering together. The “gathering together” is “the departure” that “comes first”. Then the “man of sin” is revealed who is destroyed “by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ”. It fits perfectly like puzzle pieces that snap into place. ssion

      • 59. Babylon turns totally antichrist and is the leading antichrist power at the end (Rev 18:2; Isa 14:4-6).
        60. THE KING OF BABYLON is called LUCIFER, the ANTICHRIST (Isa 14:4-6).
        61. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).
        62. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY (Isa 14; Hab 2, Rev 13, 17, 18).
        63. This world entity will be a diverse entity, different than all other ruling bodies of the world (Dan 7:7, 23).
        64. This entity will be a TREATY POWER ENTITY (Dan 7:7, 23 DIVERSE).
        65. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13, 17).
        Steward C Best 99 reasons why America is Babylon the Great.

        1947+62 Pentecosts/Weeks = 2009 (Psalm 109–The Antichrist). Who was president in 2009?

  28. The main reason why I came to Mark’s blog a few years ago and still pop in now and again is because a lot of revelation he has is what have been revealed to me also. The main one alluded to in this article which is that the last days do not begin until the seals are open. What I like about Mark’s character is that he is not so rigid in his believe that he won’t change his view if something is revealed to him later which makes his previous understanding obsolete.

    The scriptures are very complex in certain areas especially when people try to interpret it from there natural understanding. For those who have the spirit of God however, they are able in time to put the pieces together.

    To bring up a very important point from some of the scriptures that Mark has highlighted above at the 6th seal it mentioned the stars falling from the sky and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.

    I have heard a lot of ministers quote these scriptures but i haven’t heard one of them explained it correctly.
    In revelation 11 and Daniel 12 however you can perceive the full picture of what is happening here at the 6th seal.

    The 6th seal whether people want to accept it or not is when the rapture occurs – at this time Michael will stand up with his Angels to clear the heavenly pathway of the demonic forces so that Jesus can return to take his people both dead and alive with him after the great persecution and before the wrath of God is poured out.

    Revelation and Daniel confirms this scenario very well but where people usually get confused here is that there are two groups of people involved in this. Firstly the Israelites where 144’000 of them are preserved on the earth and secondly the numberless multitude who are taken up to a heavenly place seen in Rev 7:

    These return back to earth later when the wrath of God is complete in Rev 19:

    It is extremely important to note here that the first resurrection is not a one of event but a period that ends after the Millennium. This is confirmed by the resurrection of Jesus, those who will be resurrected at the rapture and those resurrected who refused the Mark of the beast. I know that there are those that may try to say that they are the same event but if you read carefully you see they are not. If you can grasp this concept then you will be able to understand the last days events more easily.

    • My views have changed a lot over the past few years. The worst thing someone can do with regards to Bible prophecy is to be so close-minded that they get to the point where they reject any view counter to their own view. When that happens (and it does happen to some people) then they may miss the opportunity to learn more.

      • Well said!

        End times events is a very complex subject. After having studied for many years on the rapture subject, my only current conclusion is that all the currents view regarding the timing of the “rapture”, be “PRE-“, “MID-” or “POST-“, all have their problems and are consequently wrong. To be more precise, all are partially correct and all are partially wrong, so I say that they are all wrong, hence the endless debate about the timing of the rapture. My conclusion is that it is impossible that a single “rapture” event can fullfill all Bible verses and that,consequently, what people call “rapture” is in fact rather something divided into several events: the former one being the resurrection of the deads in Christ with the changing of the remaining living believers into immortal body, in white garnments walking with Jesus on Earth during (part of) the tribulation (Rev 3:4) while being kept from it (Rev 3:10), and the last one event being the second coming at the end of the tribulation.

        “Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment…” (Rev 3:4-5)

        “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” (Rev 3:10)

  29. “Christ Himself called Paul to be an apostle”
    ANSWER.
    Christ warned us: “Be not deceived”
    Why do Christians not keep the Sabbath?

    “He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.” Romans 14

    Why do Christians eat unclean food?
    Isaiah 66 says:

    “For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

    17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

    18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.”
    ————–
    Answer: Pauls says so.

    —————-
    Why do we have the replacement teology?

    Because Paul has made many quotes that give many these thought.

    “For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.”

    —–
    When Yeshua returns we will stay om this literal earth in Jerusalem in Israel.

    We will not fly into the air and go to away.

    Esekiel 38/ 39 explain that the nation of Israel will use many months to clear up from this GOG-war.

    ” Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken.

    And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

    10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.

    11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.”

    • I am so tired of people completely misinterpreting Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13;37. They have absolutely nothing to do with the rapture of the church. There is NO scripture that says we may not learn the day or hour of the rapture. The day and hour are easy to determine with some study and research. The ONLY thing in question is the year but God always working in Progressive Prophecy means that as the event in question draws nearer, God will reveal more and more to those who really want to know and diligently study His word while praying to the Holy Spirit to grant us wisdom and knowledge. I suggest that anyone who doubts this should turn to John 15:15 and keep reading it until it sinks in.

      • For me it really doesn’t matter theologically when rapture is But i asked God to make me ready at the time it comes.
        Of course i would rather have a pre trib rapture but if it doesnt happen i would not lose my faith over this.
        The truth is anyone of us can die at any moment, rapture or not. Are you telling me i should prepare for rapture only? Shouldn’t we all prepare for death when it comes?

        For many of us i am very sure that death will come first.

        Let us pray that God prepare us so that He can be proud of us and the life that we have led.
        I ask this in Jesus’ name.
        To God be all the glory!

        • Wrong Bong. The Word teaches us NOT to be ignorant of the Rapture – read 1 Thess 5:1. The sleeping church keep telling us to be ‘pan-millennialists’ – that everything will ‘pan’ out. But this is a very dangerous coy attitude to a very serious topic. The Lord commands us to be ready, not be ignorant, have our oil ready – and the sleeping church yawns and says ‘it doesn’t really matter’.

      • The day and the hour sound like Trumpets to me, or possibly a new moon; but it seems to me it will during the time of the night watch in Jerusalem, so it makes sense that two will be sleeping and one will be taken (there) and two will be in the fields and one will be taken (in the West).

        But it’s more important that the Lord gather his last lover than leave them behind, so maybe that is the point of the delayed bridegroom…so much is up to us.

        • In Shevat, we learned that in a year of Jubilee that the rapture can take place on a New Moon, Full Moon, or Solemn Feast Day (Psalms 81:3; Prov 7:20; Matt 24:31).
          The Biblical Year runs from Nisan 1 to Nisan 1 so the year of 5777 (Psalms 117-Rapture Chapter) is in play until March 17, 2018.

  30. This article was very interesting for me. Thank you. I never noticed the importance of “all the trees” in Luke’s version of the parable. Your interpretation pretty much makes sense. It is quite an interesting question, though, why is it Luke only, who does mention “all the trees” besides the fig tree?

  31. In fact Wayne looking at your article ‘Locating the end times on the calendar’ Daniel 70th week would fit in perfectly on the last date on your chart which is 2021 to 2028.

    Your research always amazes me of how close you are to the truth.

      • I am 78 years of age and have been studying bible prophecy for about 50 of them. Admittedly some of my views have changed in that time because of changes that have occurred in the world around me but a couple have remained solidly in my thinking.

        One is that the Feast Days of Leviticus 23 firmly set the calendar for the events of Jesus’ first visitation and for the events yet future and His return. The Feast days were a part of “The Law” and He said, “Think not that I come to destroy the law. I come to fulfill it.”

        He fulfilled the first four springtime feasts with his first incarnation, Passover, unleavened bread, first fruit and then the Feast of Weeks with the giving of the Spirit to empower the church.

        Three future Feasts, (the harvest feasts-the church is the harvest) Feasts of Ingathering are Trumpets (all three rapture passages have a blowing of trumpets) Day of Atonement for the Nation of Israel to atone for having rejected Our Lord all thes years) The Time of Jacob’s Trouble as told in Jeremiah and finally the Feast of tabernacles, the day Jesus will return to planet earth and reclaim his kingdom and establish the millennial Kingdom.

        The rapture then must and will fall on a future Feast of Trumpets. Not because I have a theory but because God ordained it in Leviticus 23, Jesus fulfilled the first four and will not depart of the divine schedule laid out so beautifully.

        As for the year. God always has worked in “Progressive Prophecy meaning as we get closer to the event in question he reveals more and more to us. As an example, Russia is now in Syria and is allied with Iran. Hezbullah and Hamas are both positioned as well. God has arranged the players to bring about Ezekiel 38 & 39.

        I strongly believe with Wayne, that Israel is the fig tree and the generation that would see it blossom and put forth tender leaves will not pass until ALL things are fulfilled. Notice the word all That means all of the events of the tribulation, not just up to the rapture.

        After much research and discussion with other prophecy scholars I have come to the conclusion that Psalm 90 is the basis for a generation. Since the fig tree blossomed in 1948 adding 70 years gives us 2018 less the 7 years of the tribulation means the rapture should have occurred in 2011. Well guess what? We’re all still here. God however is so merciful and long suffering not wanting any to perish would allow for the extra ten years in the Psalm and so adding 80 to 1948 brings us to 2028 less the seven years of tribulation is 2021.

        The rapture will occur on the Feast of Trumpets just prior to that so we will be out of here on September 19th of 2020.

        The hour will be at the sounding of the “last Trump” (blowing of the shofar) (I Cor. 15) ending the Feast Day (Rosh Hashanah)

        Since God is not removing us in one time zone at a time I believe it is safe to assume He will go by sundown in Jerusalem when the Trumpet is sounded in every temple and synagogue in His Holy city.

        I’ll finish by stating unequivocally that there is NO scripture that says we may not learn the day and hour of the rapture so don’t even bother to bring that one up as a reply.

        • I think it has to be during the night watch, as Jesus used the term, ‘thief in the night’, a euphemism for the temple guards’ rounds during the night.

        • Day of the Lord/Day of Judgment
          Psa 72:2 He shall (Psa_72:12-14, Psa_45:6-7; Isa_11:3-5, Isa_32:1, Isa_32:17; Jer_33:15; Rev_19:11) judge thy people with righteousness (rule in righteousness), and thy poor (oppressed; Psa_70:5; Psa_12:5, Psa_82:3-4; Job_34:19) with judgment (justice).
          Day of the Lord is a day of Darkness and distress. Rev 19:11 refers to Armageddon.
          Day of Trumpet to Day of Atonement over a one year period for the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments of Revelation. The rapture can be before the Trumpet Judgments or the Bowl Judgments. The Bowl Judgments can begin at Feast of First Fruits or Pentecost or even the Day of Trumpet.
          The window for Sun of Righteousness (Nibiru) is 2015-2020, but a closer one is 2017-2018, January to October, January to April, May to October. The Trumpet and Bowl judgments can be poured out over a 7 month period, 8.5 month period, 9 month period or even a 12 month period. Matthew 24 says these days are shorten for the sake of the Elect so that refers to one year or less and not 7 years as Christians teach. The last 3.5 years is shorten to one year. For one year we have: The Flood; Exodus Plague 1-10 (5.5 months) to Pentcost =8.5 months; Deut 24:5; Isa 34:8; Isa 61:1-2; Isa 63:4; Psalms 117-118; Jhn 6:39, 40, 44, 54 where last day = last year. Axial pole shift is on the Day of Rapture or Day of Trumpet 10 days before Armageddon but Rev 6:12-17; Isa 24:1 is the wrath of God and this is before the Trumpet Judgments of Revelation. This coinsides with the Day of Rapture.
          The Day of the Lord began on the Day of Trumpet in 2017 and ends on the Day of Atonement in 2018 according to Isaiah with Armageddon (Psalms 118:10-14). Stars Fall, Burning Stone, Millstone, Plague of Hail, axial poleshift and many other events.
          The Sun is 5778 Kelvin in heat which is 9941 Fahrenheit. The Prime Factors of 5778: 2 x3 x107 For example, 5778 can be divided by 2: 5778 / 2 = 2 889.
          1918 WWI +100 years =2018 WWIII Day of Atonement is Armageddon.
          1948+70 years (Psalms 90:10) = 2018/5778.
          2018 CE Deut 32:25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs. War (Ezekiel 38-39 War?) ends on the Day of Atonement with Marriage of the groom and Bride and then Armageddon. There are 5 days of grace and then the Messianic Kingdom/Millennium begins (Psalm 118:15). Some believe the great tribulation ends here and the Millennial Temple is dedicated by Yeshua at Chanukkah.

        • Rapture
          Deu 1:36 Save Caleb the son of Jephunneh; he shall see it, and to him will I give the land that he hath trodden upon, and to his children, because he hath wholly followed the LORD.
          Deu 1:39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.

          The Coming of the Son of Man
          Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days (2007-2017) shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
          Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
          Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great SOUND of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
          Psa 81:3 Blow up (SOUND) the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed (Full Moon), on our solemn feast day.
          Pro 7:20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed (Full Moon).

      • Psalms is 19 books from Genesis and 47 books from Revelation (Hint: 1947 CE) Psalms 1= year 1901.
        Book I includes Psalm 1-41; Book II, Psalm 42-72; Book III, Psalm 73-89; Book IV, Psalm 90-106; Book V, Psalm 107-150.
        Eschatological Psalms are: 1=1901,2, 7-10, 17-18 (1917-1918 (Israel)), 22-24, 27, 30, 40, 45-48 (1945-1948 (Israel)), 52 (Israel greening up), 67 (1967-6th Day War in Israel), 72, 76, 82, 83, 96-98, 100, 102, 107 (Tribulation began, 108, 109 (2009―The Antichrist (Obama)), 117-118 (2017-2018/5777-5778/rapture/2nd Coming), 119 (Feast of Tabernacles/Messianic Kingdom/Millennium).

  32. None of these dates are possible for the rapture as Paul clearly said in 2 Thess 2 that the Rapture cannot take place until the antichrist or the beast rises up and deceive Israel with a false covenant of peace. As he shows is true colours – so to speak after 3 1/2 years – the rapture definitely cannot take place in 2015 or 2018. In fact due to various links of scriptures to the 1000 year equals a day scenario if this is correct and there is no reason to believe that it is not – then nothing can start happening until we get beyond the 2020 dates as this is around the time when the 6000 years are complete as alluded to in Genesis and elsewhere in scripture.

  33. There is also a pre-wrath group who believe the rapture might happen in 2015. They believe that there is only a 3 1/2 year period left, that the last week began with Christ’s ministry and the AoD was His crucifixion then there was a 2000 year break before the last 3 1/2 years. They also see a 45 day tribulation basing this assumption on the extra 45 day period in Daniel from the 1290 to 1335 day. They put the 45 days before the 1290 day period. Don’t ask me why. I don’t see the scriptural reasoning for moving it to the beginning of the second half of the week. So they are anticipating the “stopping of sacrifices,” which they define differently than we do, around Rosh Hashanah next year and the rapture after that. This will make it fall between the four blood moons. At least that is how I am understanding this from what I have read of this belief. There might be variations on it. I naturally disagree on every count, but I can’t say that I really understand it either, as it is a lot of spiritualizing things.

          • Well, back in 2007 they said something signed by the EU was the treaty mentioned in Daniel, and after 7 years passed without any abomination or anything like that they are rethinking that MAYBE (lol) they were wrong on that score, but not entirely wrong as they say it will be re-confirmed any time now, and THAT is the confirming of the treaty mentioned in Daniel. Yet they don’t believe in a seven year week. I can’t figure them out. They aren’t even consistent in their wrong beliefs. nor will they admit they are wrong. Yet if anyone disagrees with them, they get downright nasty and chase them away from any forums saying that they are leading people astray. If it wasn’t so sad it would be comical.

          • Pride is one of the biggest stumbling blocks hampering some people’s understanding of Bible prophecy. It was an issue for the Campingites and it sounds like it’s an issue with this group of people. They would rather commit further to their beliefs despite the evidence that exists against their beliefs than to admit that they are wrong.

    • Lord Jesus was born 17th June 2BC he is coming back in June 2018 as Israel the fig tree nation came to be in 1948. So Lord Jesus said when you see the fig starting to shoot know this generation will not pass away until all these things happen, wars, rumors of war, earthquakes etc. So what is a generation Psalms 90:10 is 70 years so 1948 to 2018 is 70 years. Pray and prepare.

      • Most scholars say Jesus was born during the fall Feast of Tabernacles. Would you mind explaining how you came to the date of June 17th? I don’t believe there is anything in Scripture that would point to such a specific date.

        • Jesus fulfilled (and WAS) every one of the 8 Feasts (7 commanded).

          He was conceived on the 8th day of the 8th Feast (TEVET 1). 8th Feast was KISLEV 24-25……..and 8th day was TEVET 1 (8th day)…..Jesus’ Conception….+280 days gestation is TISHREI 15, TABERNACLES, His Birth. Jesus attended the FEAST of DEDICATION (KISLEV 25…..KISLEV 24 in the West), the FEAST of HIS CONCEPTION, unbeknowns to the Jews. The Feast He attended (John 10) was a celebration of the 2nd Temple Dedication in 583 B.C.

          Also, I’m pretty sure the RAPTURE is this FRIDAY, January 19, 2018……exactly 280 full days gestation past FIRSTFRUITS, NISAN 17, 2017…..”Jesus, the FIRSTFRUITS of all who sleep (the Church).” Jan 19 is also 5 Jewish mths (as Noah’s 5 mths in Ark til disembarking) past the Aug 21, 2017 solar eclipse.

          There’s much more evidence for this Friday, but little time for further explanation. God Bless!!!

          • After the 19th, when the rapture doesn’t occur, would you care to explain on what grounds you believe that Jesus was conceived on the day you say? And the eighth feast, as you call it, was not a feast ordained by God. It was merely a man’s tradition that was incorporated, just as Purim is, or the 9th of Av is mourned as the destruction of the temple. The rapture, when it finally does occur, will occur at the fall feasts. Some believe on the Feast of Trumpets, but I hold to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement being the day of choice, as when Christ returns, all Israel will be saved. Hence the real Day of Atonement.

          • we are in the season of rapture but since God remains God, you cannot fix a date of the rapture. coming as a thief in the book of revelation refers to the date. We need to stary tuned.

          • We are jot in the season yet there’s too many things still needed to be fufilled .. everything happening now have been happening since jesus died even his own time they thought but was last days too m wasnt.

      • He didn’t come and he wont until everything else is fufilled so just stoo trying make dates we will make it more years because not everything has been fufilled yet.